The Jinx

[DaBallhawk]

Anybody see this 6 Part HBO documentary on Robert Durst? Truly a bizarre dude. Parts 1-4 were sort of what you'd expect in a typical documentary I guess. In part 5 he started to talk to himself while the mic was still on. In part 6 he went even further. The interview is done, he goes to the bathroom and again talks to himself after being asked some tough questions, he admits to killing "all those people".

 

They found him innocent when he went on trial for these murders years ago but I guess they just arrested him again. Not sure what he's been charged with but before all that he was on the run for a while. The only reason they caught him was because he stole a sandwich when he had like 50k in the car.

 

http://www.cnn.com/videos/justice/2015/03/16/newday-dnt-casarez-durst-confession-hbo.cnn

[Morrissey]

I need this guys phone number so I can sell him a bridge in Brooklyn.

[DaBallhawk]

I think by now his mom probably pushed it through legally that he can't make any purchases, his signature is worthless.

[RutgersJetFan]

The arrest is for the Berman murder.

 

I have several concerns with this production. The first is that the Times is reporting that evidence revealed in the doc did play a part in the arrest. Which means it's either the letter or the confession. Either way they sat on something for the production rather than showing it to the authorities. Not cool.

 

The second is leveraging turning over evidence to Durst's attorney in exchange for sitting down for a second interview. Again, not cool.

 

Granted, **** Durst, he's clearly guilty and a POS, but it looks like there were some procedural liberties taken on behalf of creating shock value for the series, and when it comes to a murder investigation, not cool. Have to see how this plays out but there are some real ethical questions here for HBO.

[Larz]

Douglas Durst has a place in westchester county.  I did a ton of work there.  never met the brother

 

what a creepy **** Robert is

[drdetroit]

I hope this little rich f@g dies. Srsly

[DaBallhawk]

The arrest is for the Berman murder.

 

I have several concerns with this production. The first is that the Times is reporting that evidence revealed in the doc did play a part in the arrest. Which means it's either the letter or the confession. Either way they sat on something for the production rather than showing it to the authorities. Not cool.

 

The second is leveraging turning over evidence to Durst's attorney in exchange for sitting down for a second interview. Again, not cool.

 

Granted, **** Durst, he's clearly guilty and a POS, but it looks like there were some procedural liberties taken on behalf of creating shock value for the series, and when it comes to a murder investigation, not cool. Have to see how this plays out but there are some real ethical questions here for HBO.

 

One hand washes the other. At least that's the way HBO sees it. Or rather this Jarecki character. He keeps going that same "you do something for me, I do something for you" route. It's unethical but I think that since he's the reason those letters etc. came up, he has a right to profit off of it. That's his thinking I'd assume. Otherwise he'd just hand the stuff over to the cops and let them deal with it instead of acting like he's some sort of prosecutor, dragging Durst around to some hotel to question him about letters, pictures etc. and do his own investigation. That wasn't the plan when they came up with this documentary, that wasn't why Durst signed up. He just wanted to give his own story, not be investigated by some director...

 

But it's amazing some random guy with a camera can do a better job investigating and solving murder cases, interviewing suspects etc. than the cops/state. Just mind boggling.

[Bugg]

I need this guys phone number so I can sell him a bridge in Brooklyn.

Wonder if Bob Durst paid for his suit. 

[rillo]

I need to watch this, see what the fuss is about

[nj meadowlands]

Jinx was great.  I got massively sick on Monday and had to leave work, so I binged the entire series.  Truly bizarre stuff.

[drdetroit]

Watched the show. Most amazing thing to me is how stupid and pathetic the jurors were in the Galveston trial. A blind retarded person would have found Dirst guilty.

[drdetroit]

Wonder if Bob Durst paid for his suit.

That has to be the only logical explanation. I refuse to believe anyone is that stupid.

[JustInFudge]

That was some crazy sh*t.

The thing that is the most pathetic part is how much better the production team were than the actual investigators.

Unreal.

[Scott Dierking]

That was some crazy sh*t.

The thing that is the most pathetic part is how much better the production team were than the actual investigators.

Unreal.

You don't find things, unless you are looking for them.

 

As Rutgers said, the manner that the production team seemingly withheld evidence, in order to complete the series seems very shady.

 

Durst will beat this rap again, just watch.

[JustInFudge]

You don't find things, unless you are looking for them.

 

As Rutgers said, the manner that the production team seemingly withheld evidence, in order to complete the series seems very shady.

 

Durst will beat this rap again, just watch.

 

Yeah, thats the first thing I thought finishing it.  He'll get away with it again.

 

You really have to wonder if he was paying people off not to do full investigations of the crime scenes, etc. 

[Rexorcism]

Anybody see this 6 Part HBO documentary on Robert Durst? Truly a bizarre dude. Parts 1-4 were sort of what you'd expect in a typical documentary I guess. In part 5 he started to talk to himself while the mic was still on. In part 6 he went even further. The interview is done, he goes to the bathroom and again talks to himself after being asked some tough questions, he admits to killing "all those people".

They found him innocent when he went on trial for these murders years ago but I guess they just arrested him again. Not sure what he's been charged with but before all that he was on the run for a while. The only reason they caught him was because he stole a sandwich when he had like 50k in the car.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/justice/2015/03/16/newday-dnt-casarez-durst-confession-hbo.cnn

He only went on trial for the galveston murder, he was never charged in his wifes disappearance and is now being charged with the LA murder

[Rexorcism]

One hand washes the other. At least that's the way HBO sees it. Or rather this Jarecki character. He keeps going that same "you do something for me, I do something for you" route. It's unethical but I think that since he's the reason those letters etc. came up, he has a right to profit off of it. That's his thinking I'd assume. Otherwise he'd just hand the stuff over to the cops and let them deal with it instead of acting like he's some sort of prosecutor, dragging Durst around to some hotel to question him about letters, pictures etc. and do his own investigation. That wasn't the plan when they came up with this documentary, that wasn't why Durst signed up. He just wanted to give his own story, not be investigated by some director...

But it's amazing some random guy with a camera can do a better job investigating and solving murder cases, interviewing suspects etc. than the cops/state. Just mind boggling.

You don't find things, unless you are looking for them.

As Rutgers said, the manner that the production team seemingly withheld evidence, in order to complete the series seems very shady.

Durst will beat this rap again, just watch.

I've read a few articles about this series and the Director and none of the evidence was held back from police, including the interviews. They had all of the evidence shown on the show when it was found, which in some cases is years ago

[Scott Dierking]

I've read a few articles about this series and the Director and none of the evidence was held back from police, including the interviews. They had all of the evidence shown on the show when it was found, which in some cases is years ago

In that case, what further evidence did they pick up from the end of October (when the Production crew came across the letter) until last week. 

 

Are we to just assume it was coincidence that Durst got picked up the day before the airing of the 6th episode?

[#27TheDominator]

I've read a few articles about this series and the Director and none of the evidence was held back from police, including the interviews. They had all of the evidence shown on the show when it was found, which in some cases is years ago

 

 

In that case, what further evidence did they pick up from the end of October (when the Production crew came across the letter) until last week. 

 

Are we to just assume it was coincidence that Durst got picked up the day before the airing of the 6th episode?

 

I listened to some show about it on NPR or something when held captive in a car.  One of the main pieces of evidence was the "confession" to the mike in the bathroom.  The guy said they didn't realize what it said.  They hired an outside firm to go through all the footage and transcribe it and they supposedly noticed him saying "What did I do?  Killed them all, of course."  Then they brought it to the attention of the producers and the cops.  Seemed obviously held back to time it with the show, but the guy swore they only noticed it when they were editing the final series.  It also seems unlikely to be enough to prove anything.  Pretty easy to explain away - just being sarcastic, saying what he thought the interviewing was getting at, etc.  Not exactly a smoking gun IMO.

[Rexorcism]

In that case, what further evidence did they pick up from the end of October (when the Production crew came across the letter) until last week.

Are we to just assume it was coincidence that Durst got picked up the day before the airing of the 6th episode?

Here’s a Timeline of Everything You Need to Know About the Jinx Case

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Robert Durst at the Morris Black murder trial in 2003.

Photo by James Nielsen/ Getty Images

HBO’s true-crime miniseries The Jinx came to a close Sunday night with an unforgettable final scene in which the eccentric Robert Durst, speaking to himself in the bathroom while hooked up to a microphone, appears to confess to two unsolved murders. Compared to the wishy-washy ending of Serial, the podcast that The Jinx is most often compared to, this finale left audiences with an overwhelming sense of clarity about the protagonist’s guilt.

It turned out to be a short-lived feeling: As Andrew Jarecki, the creative force behind the series, made his media rounds this morning, questions kept coming up about when various events depicted on the show actually happened, and in what order. It became impossible to ignore that Jarecki and his editing team had been consistently vague about the timeline they’d presented over the course of the show’s six episodes, and that there was considerable ambiguity about when, and under what circumstances, their interviews with Robert Durst took place.

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In light of the confusion, we decided to string together as straightforward a chronology of events as we could, based on interviews, news reports, and The Jinx itself.

Early 1982: Kathie Durst disappears.

Dec. 23, 2000: Susan Berman killed.

Sept. 28, 2001: Morris Black killed in Galveston, Texas.

Nov. 30, 2001: Manhunt for Durst concludes in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, where he is caught shoplifting a Band-Aid, a chicken salad sandwich, and a newspaper. (NYT)

2006: Andrew Jarecki and Marc Smerling start researching Durst’s story for their feature film All Good Things. (Hitfix)

2007: Jarecki and Smerling reach out to Durst, are turned down for an interview by his lawyer. They spend the next three years working on All Good Things. (Hitfix)

Late November, 2010: Durst hears about All Good Things a week before it comes out and approaches Jarecki. (Vox)

Late 2010: Jarecki and Smerling’s first interview with Durst, which takes place over “about three days.” (CBS News)

April 2012: Second interview with Durst. (NYT)

Same day, April 2012?: This is one of the murkest events in the timeline: Jarecki films Robert Durst walking around outside of Durst Tower in Manhattan. The fact that Durst and Jarecki are dressed in the same clothes that they’re wearing during the second interview suggests the two events probably took place on the same day, but we’re not yet entirely sure.

Later in April 2012: Douglas Durst takes a restraining order out on his brother Robert. (NY Post)

Early 2013: Jarecki and Smerling begin speaking to Los Angeles investigators. (NYT)

June 2, 2013: Robert Durst walks up to the front of his brother Douglas’ house, violating orders of protection. (NY Post)

Aug. 16, 2013: Robert Durst is arrested for violating orders of protection (NY Post). Notably, this is portrayed on The Jinx as a big break for Jarecki and his team, who spend a significant chunk of the final episode trying unsuccessfully to get Durst to sit down with them for a second interview. The way these events are presented on the show, it looks like Durst’s arrest gave Jarecki leverage in his quest to get more time with his subject. In reality, it seems like the arrest may have happened more than a year after he conducted his explosive second interview with Durst.

June 12, 2014: Bathroom audio excerpt is discovered during editing of The Jinx. (NYT)

March 10, 2015: Durst leaves Houston in a car, headed for New Orleans (NYT)

March 14, 2015: Durst is arrested in New Orleans. (NYT)

March 16, 2015: Jarecki gives interviews to the New York Times, CBS This Morning, and Good Morning America before canceling all remaining media appearances. (Gothamist)

[DaBallhawk]

March 14, 2015: Durst is arrested in New Orleans. (NYT)

 

Why. That's what we're wondering.

[Rexorcism]

In that case, what further evidence did they pick up from the end of October (when the Production crew came across the letter) until last week.

Are we to just assume it was coincidence that Durst got picked up the day before the airing of the 6th episode?

That letter was not found in October 2014, it was used in the final Durst interview in 2012 so it was probably found in between 2006-2012

[JustInFudge]

I listened to some show about it on NPR or something when held captive in a car.  One of the main pieces of evidence was the "confession" to the mike in the bathroom.  The guy said they didn't realize what it said.  They hired an outside firm to go through all the footage and transcribe it and they supposedly noticed him saying "What did I do?  Killed them all, of course."  Then they brought it to the attention of the producers and the cops.  Seemed obviously held back to time it with the show, but the guy swore they only noticed it when they were editing the final series.  It also seems unlikely to be enough to prove anything.  Pretty easy to explain away - just being sarcastic, saying what he thought the interviewing was getting at, etc.  Not exactly a smoking gun IMO.

 

That was I was thinking too.  He could have just said he was practicing...kind of like he did in the one episode when he didnt realize his mic was on and he was practicing the wording of his response. 

 

I dont see how that could be used against him at all.  The letter on the other hand, I dont see how that can be explained away.

[#27TheDominator]

That was I was thinking too.  He could have just said he was practicing...kind of like he did in the one episode when he didnt realize his mic was on and he was practicing the wording of his response. 

 

I dont see how that could be used against him at all.  The letter on the other hand, I dont see how that can be explained away.

 

I put on classic rock before they got to anything beyond the Naked Gun bathroom mic bit.

[Rexorcism]

Why. That's what we're wondering.

I think the LA detectives were waiting and watching him to see what he would do and say, he basically incriminated himself doing this documentary with Jarecki so why rush and miss what he may say or do next? The reason they arrested him before the final episode supposedly is they thought he was gonna take off to Cuba

[Scott Dierking]

That was I was thinking too.  He could have just said he was practicing...kind of like he did in the one episode when he didnt realize his mic was on and he was practicing the wording of his response. 

 

I dont see how that could be used against him at all.  The letter on the other hand, I dont see how that can be explained away.

Stupid LAPD did a handwriting analysis and already linked it to someone else. Then this comes along.

 

Durst was found with a mask that would disguise him down to his chest, a bunch of money he had been withdrawing, and maps from Louisiana to Cuba, when he was arrested this time.

[Scott Dierking]

I put on classic rock before they got to anything beyond the Naked Gun bathroom mic bit.

I do think I heard him fart in there. He is kind of a Gollum creature.

[#27TheDominator]

They should have let him run off to Cuba.  Then publicize the warrants so he wouldn't come back.  Problem solved.  Could probably even seize some of his assets.

[JustInFudge]

I do think I heard him fart in there. He is kind of a Gollum creature.

 

There was definitely a fart in there. lmfao

[DaBallhawk]

I think the LA detectives were waiting and watching him to see what he would do and say, he basically incriminated himself doing this documentary with Jarecki so why rush and miss what he may say or do next? The reason they arrested him before the final episode supposedly is they thought he was gonna take off to Cuba

 

And you don't think him basically admitting on TV when he went to the bathroom that he killed them all had nothing to do with it? I don't know, but I find it hard to believe that none of this had anything to do with the documentary. Whether it's this, the letter, whatever.

[Rexorcism]

And you don't think him basically admitting on TV when he went to the bathroom that he killed them all had nothing to do with it? I don't know, but I find it hard to believe that none of this had anything to do with the documentary. Whether it's this, the letter, whatever.

They say they found the bathroom stuff in April 2014, and the arrest was because they he was gonna go into hiding, blah blah blah. They could be full of shlt though, who knows. Hopefully he doesnt beat another rap, thats what matters, rich guys usually win.

[Scott Dierking]

[drdetroit]

That letter was not found in October 2014, it was used in the final Durst interview in 2012 so it was probably found in between 2006-2012

Three words: chain of custody

There's a better chance of me getting A2M from Jennifer Lawrence then of that 2nd letter getting admitted to evidence.

His confession on hbo most likely will also get excluded.

The guy is getting off. Worst case scenario he pleads insanity and goes to some bs psychiatric country club for a couple years and the already bankrupt state if California will pay $1k per day for him to play tennis.

[peebag]

Watched the show. Most amazing thing to me is how stupid and pathetic the jurors were in the Galveston trial. A blind retarded person would have found Dirst guilty.

That's what 1.5 million dollars worth of legal fees will buy you.