Dcat Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 the jets have $5 million in cap room and need $3 million for the rookies and $5 million for in season flexibility. the only way to get rivers is to trade wilkerson and harris or wilkerson and marshall and he's a choker no thanks the "only way"? That's just so wrong, I don't know where to begin. That would be one way, but not the 'only' way. With a trade for Rivers, the Jets and Rivers obviously change the contract, extending it and turning some of this year's salary into bonus and spread the hit out over the next few years. It could be done easily if they wanted to. Not sure it's the smartest thing to do, but it certainly is possible without trading Wilk or the others you claim is the 'only' way. Harris isn't going anywhere. They elected to overpay by about 3 million or so over the next two years so that Harris could stay and provide the leadership the defense needs until such time as the Jets draft his successor or acquire one in FA next year. Also, I agree that Rivers is a big time choke artist. But how much Geno or Fitz can we endure? It would be nice to have a capable QB for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 the jets have $5 million in cap room and need $3 million for the rookies and $5 million for in season flexibility. the only way to get rivers is to trade wilkerson and harris or wilkerson and marshall and he's a choker no thanks I thought it was more like 20 to 25. Am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 While Rivers would be the best QB we've had since Namath. No thanks. He's a colossal jerk and he's overrated. For as good as Rivers has been over the years, he's only won more than 10 games three times. And 2 of those years were during LT's pure domination of the league when he was running wild scoring over 50 TD's in 2 seasons. Rivers is good. He's a stat whore. Not someone I trust to win big games. Just look at this postseason history vs. the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Rivers is good. He's a stat whore. Not someone I trust to win big games. Just look at this postseason history vs. the Jets. Maybe the fix is putting him ON the Jets? We might be the only fearsome defense in the AFC at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Dee Milliner 7th rounder For Rivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I would take Rivers in a heartbeat, but If the Chargers are going to trade with a team to get Mariota it wont be the Jets. It will be either the Titans or the Redskins, probably the Titans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Maybe the fix is putting him ON the Jets? We might be the only fearsome defense in the AFC at this point. The only? Holy sh*t, you're such a disgusting homer, you've completely lost your marbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Philip Rivers blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 The only? Holy sh*t, you're such a disgusting homer, you've completely lost your marbles. Who plays D in this conference? Miami has some some hype and Buffalo of course was solid under Schwartz. The Ravens and Steelers aren't as scary as they used to be. Anyone in the AFC South (the fighting JJ Watts?) and West (Chiefs)? If we can't hang our hats on defense with the coaching hire and signings we just made, we can't hang our hats on anything. Our biggest disadvantage has always been offensively, having to try to outscore Peyton, Brady, Big Ben, Rivers, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 is this even remotely possible? The basis of the rumor is a Mariotta workout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Rivers = instant contention. Pipe dream though. Mariota isn't dropping to 6 imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I'd prefer Geno to win the job over a 32 year old journeyman on his 6th NFL team. I'd prefer Rivers, who may in fact be available, over either. I'd prefer you to Geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Who plays D in this conference? Miami has some some hype and Buffalo of course was solid under Schwartz. The Ravens and Steelers aren't as scary as they used to be. Anyone in the AFC South (the fighting JJ Watts?) and West (Chiefs)? If we can't hang our hats on defense with the coaching hire and signings we just made, we can't hang our hats on anything. Our biggest disadvantage has always been offensively, having to try to outscore Peyton, Brady, Big Ben, Rivers, etc. From a "points allowed" perspective, which everyone around here says is the only stat the matters - the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Texans, Browns and Patriots were all top 10. You're a disgusting homer. The "only" defense in the AFC. My god man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 From a "points allowed" perspective, which everyone around here says is the only stat the matters - the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Texans, Browns and Patriots were all top 10. You're a disgusting homer. The "only" defense in the AFC. My god man. I said they might be the only "fearsome" D, and I'm not basing it on last year's performance. Didn't the Chiefs just lose some people? The Patriots lost Revis. The Ravens are in a pretty bad cap situation due to the Flacco deal and having to surrender $9.5M in cap space over the Rice deal. So that leaves the Bills, Texans, and Browns amongst that group. And let's add the Dolphins now that they added Suh. After the additions and coaching hires we've made, I'd say we belong in that group, no? And are any of those 3 defenses particularly scary? None of them made the playoffs last year. The AFC is more offense-driven than it's been in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Rivers is a great player so **** yes. I don't see Rivers as being a 'great QB'. Yeah, he puts up some numbers in the regular season, but even with standout's at the talent positions he has won how many playoff games? Two I think. He is NOT the guy to put the Jets over the top. Jets will draft Mariota or Petty in this years draft and groom him for a season under Smith / Fitzpatrick. Don't want what someone else has had and don't want no more. Kind of like an old girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I don't see Rivers as being a 'great QB'.. He is, no worries there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Diddy Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Phillip River chooses not to extend contract with Chargers and will test open market. Just broke on the Herd. Thoughts???? this might be a chance to grab an elite QB in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Phillip River chooses not to extend contract with Chargers and will test open market. Just broke on the Herd. Thoughts???? this might be a chance to grab an elite QB in his prime. I'd be all over this. Rivers is a great QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I said they might be the only "fearsome" D, and I'm not basing it on last year's performance. Didn't the Chiefs just lose some people? The Patriots lost Revis. The Ravens are in a pretty bad cap situation due to the Flacco deal and having to surrender $9.5M in cap space over the Rice deal. So that leaves the Bills, Texans, and Browns amongst that group. And let's add the Dolphins now that they added Suh. After the additions and coaching hires we've made, I'd say we belong in that group, no? And are any of those 3 defenses particularly scary? None of them made the playoffs last year. The AFC is more offense-driven than it's been in a long time. You said "only", you disgusting pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 You said "only", you disgusting pig. Maybe the fix is putting him ON the Jets? We might be the only fearsome defense in the AFC at this point. And I might be correct. Our offense is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Jet Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 So if Rivers is a choker what does that make Mark Sanchez? A winner? This is what I hate about sports fans pigeon-holing players as chokers. Eventually the Peyton Mannings and Arods are going to win in the clutch even if they failed in the past. It's law of averages. the law of averages is a misrepresentation of the law of large numbers Past occurences do not effect present probability If for example the probability of any one team to win the superbowl is 3%, past failures will not change the probability rivers is an above average qb so lets say he has a 10% chance to win it all. All the law says is that at some huge number he might realize that probability, it may take ten tries it may take a million I think your right though A clutch player could just be realizing his probability in fewer chances and a choker may not based on pure chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Jet Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 with all that said id love yo get rivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I'd prefer you to Geno ya don't get the "i prefer this guy over that guy." I prefer a REAL competition for once with best guy winning. why go in with a preference? i predict fitz will crush geno in said competition but if I'm wrong and geno is better, great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 I'd prefer you to Geno I'm very good at making the decision of where to throw, but my arm strength makes Chad Pennington look like Joe Flacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I'm very good at making the decision of where to throw, but my arm strength makes Chad Pennington look like Joe Flacco. Relative to even terrible NFL QBs, I doubt this would play out on an NFL field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I'm very good at making the decision of where to throw, but my arm strength makes Chad Pennington look like Joe Flacco. But, as you know, Chad had all those intangibles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 Relative to even terrible NFL QBs, I doubt this would play out on an NFL field. No, I am pretty sure that 30 year olds that have never played organized sports turn out to be NFL QBs all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 We get Rivers and we would be as good as any team in the NFL. PERIOD! And he is not my favorite QB by far. Agreed. Phil is a douche but he can ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 is this even remotely possible? The basis of the rumor is a Mariotta workout? The Mariota workout combined with Rivers refusing to even talk contract extension with the Chargers. He wants no part of LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Lol at how quickly we destroyed our cap. Two years to fix. One week to max out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Lol at how quickly we destroyed our cap. Two years to fix. One week to max out. Go take a nap. Are you being willfully ignorant of the 89% Cap Floor issue or do you really not know it's a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 The Mariota workout combined with Rivers refusing to even talk contract extension with the Chargers. He wants no part of LA. Yeah, but all the talk is about next year, they can always franchise him so no need to worry about losing him for nothing. If they draft Mariota, I'd have to imagine they want Rivers around for a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementi49 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Trade milliner. The 6th pick and next years 2nd rounder to move up to #2. Trade back with SD give them #2 and Mariotta. While we get Rivers and SD 2nd rounder. Boom. Lock it up. GM of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Anyone who says they wouldn't take Rivers for whatever reason needs to just stop rooting for this team immediately. Your opinions aren't valid anymore Hahahahhah Very Nice..... Touche!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Lol at how quickly we destroyed our cap. Two years to fix. One week to max out. I'm not a fan of the Cro and Harris deals but other than that we have had a solid offseason so far. Now we just need to avoid Mariota at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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