SR24 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/myers-brees-rivers-possibly-mix-jets-article-1.2157881 thouhts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 hey myers, everybody is talking about basketball. did you take the month off ? write something jerkoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/myers-brees-rivers-possibly-mix-jets-article-1.2157881 thouhts? My thoughts is Meyers is a dumbass and a hack, he knows nothing, the game passed him by a while ago... He thinks Mariota is going to be a star, how rich, how ingenious. Don't disagree with the thought, but coming from Meyers for me deflatriots it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 My thoughts is Meyers is a dumbass and a hack, he knows nothing, the game passed him by a while ago... He things Mariota is going to be a star, how rich. Don't disagree with the thought, but coming from Meyers for me deflatriots it! He really does come off as unaware when it comes to the game. Kim Jones carries him when they're on The Fan together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Joe Benigno actually seems somewhat knowledgeable when he and Meyers are on Daily News Live together. Knowledgable, not lucid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Mariota Fever Win now Gary Myers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I would trade 6 for Rivers and 17 but still want an extra first next year Bree's would be a salary dump so has less trade value, plus he is a big part of NO (I would love to have him on the Jets but not sure it makes sense for NO) I could see them sending picks for 6 (they have 2 firsts after the Graham trade) and using Mariota to negotiate Bree's salary down Would FA have been better with Bree's instead of Cro, Skirine and Gilcrest? that is an interesting question I like the super DB unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick34125 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 i'd take rivers in a flash. san diego is the only thing keeping rivers from a superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 any precedent for trading for a franchise type QB as far as what it costs ? I think pick #6 would be just the beginning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I think the reporters are just trying to find crap to write about at this point, I doubt either of them are up for trade (atleast for any reasonable price) and if the cost is more than a mid to late first round pick for either of them than the price isn't worth is as both are getting old, aside from that could we even afford to pay them at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick34125 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 any precedent for trading for a franchise type QB as far as what it costs ? I think pick #6 would be just the beginning moving from 17 to 6 is pricey too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 here is the jay cutler trade The Jay Cutler Trade (2009 & 2010 NFL Drafts) In the wake of the Josh McDaniels’ hiring as the Broncos head coach, the team jettisoned its two most potent offensive weapons from the season before. Brandon Marshall was traded to the Dolphins (a deal which will come into play later in this post - so stay tuned) and Jay Cutler was traded to the Bears. Here was the deal: Denver Received Pick #18 (Rd. 1) in the 2009 Draft Pick #84 (Rd. 3) in the 2009 Draft Pick #11 (Rd. 1) in the 2010 Draft Kyle Orton Chicago Received Jay Cutler Pick #140 (Rd. 5) in the 2009 Draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Getting a player of the calibre of Brees or Rivers is worth a lot. We're talking multiple first round picks, this years 6th, next years 1 and probably a 2 and a 3 at some later point. The Jets would instantly be super bowl contenders with the strong defense and the new offensive weapons. It would be a no brainer deal, even if you mortgage your future down the road (and i'd argue the Jets have already done that by signing Revis and the pack of FA's this year). I sincerely doubt SD or NO would be stupid enough to do that though. Those guys are basically their entire team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 moving from 17 to 6 is pricey too. I have to think rivers would cost; #6 this year mid round pick this year first round pick next year mid round pick next year fitzpatrick (for cap space) harris or wilkerson (for cap space) then are you better off ? rivers is very talented but hardly a post season success story I think he hasn't signed an extension because he doesn't have to. he wants to wait until the last day to see where SD is with the stadium deal no GM is going into a new stadium without the star QB but hey look I have a couple of run stuffers and picks.... whoop dee damn doo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Would take Rivers or Bree's but this is just more BS as Mariota will not make it to 6, it's like kicking a dead horse. I am not a Mariota fan boy or anything but all these articles are just a waste of time he will be gone before 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 The rivers deal makes no sense. Rivers wants to go to FA to determine his value. Why would he fore go that to go to the jets and sign long term never mind rework the deal he has now? All the jets will be doing is getting a disgruntled player when they tag him for the 2016 season. Brees sucks outside a dome and specially in the Meadowlands. Rivers is my 2nd favorite qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Nobody is giving up Rivers. When you find a QB that can win - you don't let him go. As Jet fans we know how hard it is to find a QB - so does every GM - two 1's and two 2's don't help you if you don't have a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I would trade 6 for Rivers and 17 but still want an extra first next year Bree's would be a salary dump so has less trade value, plus he is a big part of NO (I would love to have him on the Jets but not sure it makes sense for NO) I could see them sending picks for 6 (they have 2 firsts after the Graham trade) and using Mariota to negotiate Bree's salary down Would FA have been better with Bree's instead of Cro, Skirine and Gilcrest? that is an interesting question I like the super DB unit you think we'd get rivers and 2 firsts for the #6 pick? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 you think we'd get rivers and 2 firsts for the #6 pick? lol. Sure, starting point for negotiations, if you are going to dream, why not dream big, SD scheduled the private workout with Mariota, SD would be making the call when the Jets are on the clock, why pay market value? we saw what happens when a GM falls in love with a QB, Washington sold the farm for RG3 and looked brilliant during his rookie year Aging franchise QB's have gone cheap when the team is ready to move on; Favre went for a 3rd, Manning was a FA, etc... Hard part for us Jets fans is "Favre for one more year Vs. Sanchez" easy to answer in hindsight but many wanted the Sanchise in 09 all probably a moot point since the market does seems to be heating up for Mariota and he will not make it to 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Would take Rivers or Bree's but this is just more BS as Mariota will not make it to 6, it's like kicking a dead horse. I am not a Mariota fan boy or anything but all these articles are just a waste of time he will be gone before 6. Meyers is a patriot fan. I'm not kidding he is. All this jets mariota talk is a big FU to to the jets "doesn't matter what you do you don't have a qb you gotta gamble on the next bust qb out of Oregon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Rivers will be traded to Washington at pick five. The Chargers will take Marcus Mariota and will give the Redskins several other picks. SD may also want Colt McCoy or Cousins as a stop gap while Mariota develops. The Chargers know Rivers isn't the guy to take them to the SB, he stumbles and falls come playoff time. Of course half of his weapons are on IR by the time the playoffs roll around and he can't do it all himself. I just think SD won't give in to his new contract demands while Washington is both stupid and desperate so they will fall all over themselves doing this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Rivers will be traded to Washington at pick five. The Chargers will take Marcus Mariota and will give the Redskins several other picks. SD may also want Colt McCoy or Cousins as a stop gap while Mariota develops. The Chargers know Rivers isn't the guy to take them to the SB, he stumbles and falls come playoff time. Of course half of his weapons are on IR by the time the playoffs roll around and he can't do it all himself. I just think SD won't give in to his new contract demands while Washington is both stupid and desperate so they will fall all over themselves doing this deal. If the chargers do that it would be the dumbest trade ever. To go from Rivers to Mariota c'mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Interesting to say the least the names being thrown around all surrounded by Mariota I wold plan on both Winston and Mariota being gone by 6 and the Jets being on the board and not trading the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 yeah, the chargers are going to trade Rivers for the 5th pick in the draft. Why in order to draft a qb that with luck will be an average nfl qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smaxor5 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Getting a player of the calibre of Brees or Rivers is worth a lot. We're talking multiple first round picks, this years 6th, next years 1 and probably a 2 and a 3 at some later point. The Jets would instantly be super bowl contenders with the strong defense and the new offensive weapons. It would be a no brainer deal, even if you mortgage your future down the road (and i'd argue the Jets have already done that by signing Revis and the pack of FA's this year). I sincerely doubt SD or NO would be stupid enough to do that though. Those guys are basically their entire team. I love this argument. Getting the best cornerback in football hurts our future because of the cap. Lets just completely ignore: 1. That the cap is going up at an unprecedented rate which has been bailing out teams who've done this in the past (Saints, Broncos, Pats etc) 2. The teaching value a guy like Revis brings: We have recent 1st and 3rd round CB picks on this team. Do you think they will develop better with Marcus ******* Williams in their ear over arguably the best cornerback in NFL history? 3. The recruiting angle. Revis is instant credibility. People look at this team as a contender now. Lesser guys will sign here because of his presence alone. 4. WE HAD TO SPEND THE MONEY. Sure we actually could have not spent it and then just paid everyone on the roster a little bit more thereby signaling to the NFL that we are not interested in even trying to field a competitive team...I'm sure that would go a long way towards curing this teams reputation as perennial losers. It's not a coincidence that all of these contracts are loaded with guaranteed money as the entire signing bonus counts against the "cap floor". but yeah we are completely murdering our future for Revis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Rivers is 33, does not have the value as a 26 yo QB. I give up the 6th this year but that's it. He only play 3-4 years more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Getting a player of the calibre of Brees or Rivers is worth a lot. We're talking multiple first round picks, this years 6th, next years 1 and probably a 2 and a 3 at some later point. The Jets would instantly be super bowl contenders with the strong defense and the new offensive weapons. It would be a no brainer deal, even if you mortgage your future down the road (and i'd argue the Jets have already done that by signing Revis and the pack of FA's this year). I sincerely doubt SD or NO would be stupid enough to do that though. Those guys are basically their entire team. He's 36 years old. If he was, say 32, you would have been right. But with a $120mil contract and his best years far behind him, I wouldn't offer much more than just a trade up from the 17th to the 6th overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 There's a better chance of me giving Anne Hathway anal than of us trading for Rivers. The crazy thing is we actually had a shot trading for him in 2006 when we were shopping around Abraham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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