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So here we are, exactly five weeks to the draft, and the Marcus Mariota speculation continues to build.

 

Would the New York Jets select the Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback if he's available with the sixth pick ? Our man Mel Kiper Jr. believes it's a no-brainer."I would think that, at that point, I don't know how you'd pass him up," the ESPN draft analyst said Thursday on a conference call with reporters. "You're going against Tom Brady. Tom Brady has probably got another five years in him. And Mariota needs a little bit of time. So [Ryan] Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith would give you time to develop Mariota, who, in another two or three years, could be really good."

 

I agree with Kiper. If you're the Jets, starved for a franchise quarterback, you take Mariota and bring him along slowly, which is easier said than done. You know how it is in the New York market; the pressure to play him immediately would be intense.General manager Mike Maccagnan continues to say he will draft the best available player. The top four players, according to a consensus of the top draft experts (including ESPN's Kiper and Todd McShay), are quarterback Jameis Winston, defensive tackle Leonard Williams, wide receiver Amari Cooper and Mariota. If one happens to slip to six, they'd be hard-pressed to pass.

 

Some wonder if the reserved Mariota has the fire to succeed in the NFL. As Kiper noted, Eli Manning and Joe Flacco -- both Super Bowl champions -- aren't exactly animated leaders."I'm not concerned at all about the fact that you're not this rah-rah guy out there," Kiper said of the former Oregon Duck. "He's got a ton of skills, a ton of ability, and if you give him time, I think the Jets would be a perfect team to afford him that opportunity."

 

> http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/50197/mel-kiper-to-jets-dont-duck-qb-marcus-mariota

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If Mariota is not there, which is highly likely, Jets should take Beasley or Cooper if either one of them is available. If Cooper is there Cleveland may offer number 12 and a second rounder for him. I would do that and take Trae Waynes and have another pick in round two. I am so unsure about Geno Smith's ability to become a franchise QB that I feel the Jets MUST draft Bryce Petty or Garrett Grayson by round three. Don't like Brett Hundley at all. Too erratic and he reminds me of Geno Smith.

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i hate all this Jets talk about Mariota. He isn't going to be there. Neither is Leonard Williams. That's not the kind of luck the Jets get. 

 

agreed !.. unless we make a trade to move-up in the draft,..mariota will already be gone when it's our turn to pick.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

p.s. if - IF , he is still there at #6 ; grab him &  RUN !     :character0181:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cheers ~ ~

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WInston, Williams, Mariota will not be there. If someone were to drop to 6 it would be Cooper because White just might overtake him as the first WR. If Cooper does drop you'd probably have to take him. 

 

I'm hopin' we can get dante fowler / florida    :character0181:

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It's 2015. You can only sign rookies to a 4 year deal. You don't have the luxury to sit someone for 2-3 years. You'll get 1 year to watch them play and then have to commit big coin.

I'm not saying they have to start day 1, but if he's worthy of the 6th pick, he should be playing in year 1. A plan with Fitzpatrick for half the season then mariota would work.

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I think we're in a perfect position to take him, so Kiper isn't totally off. Fitz will be competent enough to hold him (and Geno of course) off to allow Marcus to learn the system. But I think the likelihood of him being there is a lot higher than you guys are saying, if TEN doesn't take him we are probably next up, no?

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The reason to take a QB high being 'We don't have one and the other guys have a hof guy' is dumb.  I'll have to trust Maccagnan on this one and since he comes from the Casserly tree I don;t see him caving into the common thought of who to take  (See Mario Williams vs Bush)  If they take Mariota it will be because they truly think he WILL be a really good Qb going forward, not 'hoping in 3 years he might become something,

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It's 2015. You can only sign rookies to a 4 year deal. You don't have the luxury to sit someone for 2-3 years. You'll get 1 year to watch them play and then have to commit big coin.

I'm not saying they have to start day 1, but if he's worthy of the 6th pick, he should be playing in year 1. A plan with Fitzpatrick for half the season then mariota would work.

The rookie scale no longer kills you on a top 3 bust.
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So here we are, exactly five weeks to the draft, and the Marcus Mariota speculation continues to build.

 

Would the New York Jets select the Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback if he's available with the sixth pick ? Our man Mel Kiper Jr. believes it's a no-brainer."I would think that, at that point, I don't know how you'd pass him up," the ESPN draft analyst said Thursday on a conference call with reporters. "You're going against Tom Brady. Tom Brady has probably got another five years in him. And Mariota needs a little bit of time. So [Ryan] Fitzpatrick and Geno Smith would give you time to develop Mariota, who, in another two or three years, could be really good."

 

I agree with Kiper. If you're the Jets, starved for a franchise quarterback, you take Mariota and bring him along slowly, which is easier said than done. You know how it is in the New York market; the pressure to play him immediately would be intense.General manager Mike Maccagnan continues to say he will draft the best available player. The top four players, according to a consensus of the top draft experts (including ESPN's Kiper and Todd McShay), are quarterback Jameis Winston, defensive tackle Leonard Williams, wide receiver Amari Cooper and Mariota. If one happens to slip to six, they'd be hard-pressed to pass.

 

Some wonder if the reserved Mariota has the fire to succeed in the NFL. As Kiper noted, Eli Manning and Joe Flacco -- both Super Bowl champions -- aren't exactly animated leaders."I'm not concerned at all about the fact that you're not this rah-rah guy out there," Kiper said of the former Oregon Duck. "He's got a ton of skills, a ton of ability, and if you give him time, I think the Jets would be a perfect team to afford him that opportunity."

 

> http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/50197/mel-kiper-to-jets-dont-duck-qb-marcus-mariota

 

I agree.  Fitz and Geno give them time to develop Mariota. The best case scenario would be Geno develops into a decent player, Mariota steps up and we can then trade Geno for a pick or two.

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I agree.  Fitz and Geno give them time to develop Mariota. The best case scenario would be Geno develops into a decent player, Mariota steps up and we can then trade Geno for a pick or two.

 

Wet dream #1: Mariota will drop to 6. If Titans pass, they will likely trade out of #2, IMO.

Wet dream #2: Geno develops into a decent player . He can't read defenses.  Period. I don't think he will ever develop that ability.

Wet dream #3: trading Geno for more than warm six pack of cheap beer and a moldy pretzel.

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i hate all this Jets talk about Mariota. He isn't going to be there. Neither is Leonard Williams. That's not the kind of luck the Jets get. 

Couldnt agree with you more, only way Jets get Mariota is if they trade up (which I hope they dont do). The draft cant come soon enough.

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If Mariota is not there, which is highly likely, Jets should take Beasley or Cooper if either one of them is available. If Cooper is there Cleveland may offer number 12 and a second rounder for him. I would do that and take Trae Waynes and have another pick in round two. I am so unsure about Geno Smith's ability to become a franchise QB that I feel the Jets MUST draft Bryce Petty or Garrett Grayson by round three. Don't like Brett Hundley at all. Too erratic and he reminds me of Geno Smith.

Trae Waynes?? He is going to be a very good player but we have Revis, Cro, Skrine, MacDougal, Milliner, Williams etc....  Makes more sense to take Dupree or if he is gone, perhaps top rated OL.  Hell I might be tempted to take Gordon.... 

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Wet dream #1: Mariota will drop to 6. If Titans pass, they will likely trade out of #2, IMO.

Wet dream #2: Geno develops into a decent player . He can't read defenses.  Period. I don't think he will ever develop that ability.

Wet dream #3: trading Geno for more than warm six pack of cheap beer and a moldy pretzel.

 

Okay Swami; what are the winning lotto numbers?  I said best case scenario; you do understand what that means, right?  BTW whats up with all the wet dreams?  You need to get out more...

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If Mariota is not there, which is highly likely, Jets should take Beasley or Cooper if either one of them is available. If Cooper is there Cleveland may offer number 12 and a second rounder for him. I would do that and take Trae Waynes and have another pick in round two. I am so unsure about Geno Smith's ability to become a franchise QB that I feel the Jets MUST draft Bryce Petty or Garrett Grayson by round three. Don't like Brett Hundley at all. Too erratic and he reminds me of Geno Smith.

 

Waynes is good but I would rather go with a pass rusher and Dupree may be there at #12. With 2 picks in the 2nd you can grab a RB and one of those QB's.   This would be a very good for us after just two rounds.  

 

 

 

 

#RatherhaveRivers

 

#hellyeah!

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Okay Swami; what are the winning lotto numbers?  I said best case scenario; you do understand what that means, right?  BTW whats up with all the wet dreams?  You need to get out more...

 

It was tongue-in-cheek, Mr. Sensitive.  Better chance at winning the lottery than your 3 far-fetched hypotheticals.

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