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Okay, now that I was I was able to add a bit more originality to my picks, here you go. 

 

Rd. 1 Pick 6 OLB Vic Beasley Clemson (most impactful defensive player in the draft imo)

Rd. 2 Pick 5 OT Jake Fisher Oregon (Chan Gailey ran a zone blocking scheme in his spread offense with the Bills)

Rd. 3 Pick 6 RB David Johnson Northern Iowa (I doubt Jay Ajayi makes it to the 3rd round. Johnson can run and is a natural receiver out of the backfield)

Rd. 4. Pick 5 ILB Ben Heeney Kansas (overlooked, solid ILB. Value in the 4th round) 

Rd. 7 Pick 6 QB Austin Dodge Southern Oregon (Blew up the NAIA division. Super accurate deep ball with great trajectory)

Rd. 7 Pick 7 P Kyle Loomis Portland St. (Best punter in college)

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Are you particularly high on Marpet?  Intriguing guy, but man that Hobart is a small school.  That is some low-level competition.  That is about where I guess he is expected to go.  Did you like him in the senior bowl or something?

I liked him alot at the Senior bowl. Dude looked like a wall out there in pass protection and opened up some nice holes in the run game, one for a TD.

 

Im about to scrap my entire Final mock though. Its the usual names and I hate that. I feel like im following the trend to some degree. Im not really challenging myself to find people that no one is talking about. It doesnt mean much to see a guy succeed or fail when most of the people agreed with the pick to begin with. I feel like outside of Kikaha and Marpet I played it safe in those first 3 rounds. 

 

 

F**k it, im scraping it. 

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Brother, dont let me hold you back...I just dont know what to tell you when you're creating all these other picks.

Na, I felt like I wanted to redo it anyway, but I should restrict it to the picks we have. I just feel that if Vic Beasley is gone then we might as well trade down. He's the only guy that I feel is really worth that 6th pick who we have a shot at actually drafting. 

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Na, I felt like I wanted to redo it anyway, but I should restrict it to the picks we have. I just feel that if Vic Beasley is gone then we might as well trade down. He's the only guy that I feel is really worth that 6th pick who we have a shot at actually drafting. 

 

Interesting...how do you see the first 5 picks going?  

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That would be an excellent draft but of course it depends on who else is on the board at each pick.  As it stands, I'll take it. 

 

 

Are you particularly high on Marpet?  Intriguing guy, but man that Hobart is a small school.  That is some low-level competition.  That is about where I guess he is expected to go.  Did you like him in the senior bowl or something?

 

 

I love mocks that give the mocker a couple of extra picks....just move things around till you have enough to enjoy yourself.  lol

Okay, updated my final mock. Please let me know what you think or ask questions regarding my decision.

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Interesting...how do you see the first 5 picks going?  

The closer we get to the draft the more I feel that Vic Beasley may be the best defensive player in this draft in regards to immediate impact on a football team. I can see this draft going like this. 

 

1. Bucs: Winston

2. Titans: Beasley/Mariota/Tradedown

3. Jags: Beasley/Leonard Williams/Tradedown

4. Raiders: Amari Cooper

5. Redskins: Bud Dupree/La'el Collins/Tradedown

6. Jets:????

 

I personally dont see the Jets even having a real shot at Beasley which is why I feel we should trade down and take advantage of other players being on the board (White, Mariota etc.). However, if Beasley is there you dont even wait the 10 minutes. You run to the podium and call his name. 

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I can't imagine Beasley going at #2 or #3. Williams will be take before him and probably Fowler.

You're probably right, however, my feeling on Beasley is that he could even go #1 in the draft if the Bucs simply call it a day with Glennon and get him some oline help. 

 

I said something to someone the other day and I even amazed myself after reading what I said. I stated that "Vic Beasley has the best 1st step mixed with such a great anticipation for the snap that I've ever seen on a football player". 

 

After realizing how easy it was for me to say that I figured that I might as well support my position instead of the popular one of Jameis Winston/Leonard Williams being the best players in the draft. I think Beasley's skill set makes him the most impactful defensive player in the draft, and since I dont believe that the Bucs have a problem at QB my opinion is that if Vic Beasley was drafted #1 overall it would be a smart move by the organization. Though I doubt that would ever happen, it could certainly happen with the Titans given that they have needs at QB and OLB. They could easily pass on Mariota and draft Beasley and know that they just added a sack/TFL machine. 

 

I know its not the popular opinion, but dont be surprised come draft night. 

 

As for Fowler, thats pure hype train. I look at his tape and Im just not impressed. Im talking about #6 pick impressed, yet people are talking up this guy like he's a top 3 top 5 talent. I dont see it. 

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You're probably right, however, my feeling on Beasley is that he could even go #1 in the draft if the Bucs simply call it a day with Glennon and get him some oline help. 

 

I said something to someone the other day and I even amazed myself after reading what I said. I stated that "Vic Beasley has the best 1st step mixed with such a great anticipation for the snap that I've ever seen on a football player". 

 

After realizing how easy it was for me to say that I figured that I might as well support my position instead of the popular one of Jameis Winston/Leonard Williams being the best players in the draft. I think Beasley's skill set makes him the most impactful defensive player in the draft, and since I dont believe that the Bucs have a problem at QB my opinion is that if Vic Beasley was drafted #1 overall it would be a smart move by the organization. Though I doubt that would ever happen, it could certainly happen with the Titans given that they have needs at QB and OLB. They could easily pass on Mariota and draft Beasley and know that they just added a sack/TFL machine. 

 

I know its not the popular opinion, but dont be surprised come draft night. 

 

As for Fowler, thats pure hype train. I look at his tape and Im just not impressed. Im talking about #6 pick impressed, yet people are talking up this guy like he's a top 3 top 5 talent. I dont see it. 

Beasley will be not going 1. I like Beasley too but can't see that happening; if TB decides not to take a qb or trade down, they are taking Williams. He is the best player in this draft.

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You're probably right, however, my feeling on Beasley is that he could even go #1 in the draft if the Bucs simply call it a day with Glennon and get him some oline help. 

 

I said something to someone the other day and I even amazed myself after reading what I said. I stated that "Vic Beasley has the best 1st step mixed with such a great anticipation for the snap that I've ever seen on a football player". 

 

After realizing how easy it was for me to say that I figured that I might as well support my position instead of the popular one of Jameis Winston/Leonard Williams being the best players in the draft. I think Beasley's skill set makes him the most impactful defensive player in the draft, and since I dont believe that the Bucs have a problem at QB my opinion is that if Vic Beasley was drafted #1 overall it would be a smart move by the organization. Though I doubt that would ever happen, it could certainly happen with the Titans given that they have needs at QB and OLB. They could easily pass on Mariota and draft Beasley and know that they just added a sack/TFL machine. 

 

I know its not the popular opinion, but dont be surprised come draft night. 

 

As for Fowler, thats pure hype train. I look at his tape and Im just not impressed. Im talking about #6 pick impressed, yet people are talking up this guy like he's a top 3 top 5 talent. I dont see it. 

 

Okay, now I ask why you like Beasley so much?  He looks great sure, but he is also small.  He's what?  245?  He can play at that weight, but probably not 3-4 OLB.   I'm not sure how much more he can put on.  He looks like a rocket, but there is a big difference between a 240 lb rocket and a guy 260-280,  I am pretty good with the Jets taking him at 6, but I can't see him sniffing #1 overall

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Okay, now I ask why you like Beasley so much?  He looks great sure, but he is also small.  He's what?  245?  He can play at that weight, but probably not 3-4 OLB.   I'm not sure how much more he can put on.  He looks like a rocket, but there is a big difference between a 240 lb rocket and a guy 260-280,  I am pretty good with the Jets taking him at 6, but I can't see him sniffing #1 overall

Agreed.  He also is a work in progress vs. the run.  You don't draft works in progress with # 1 overall pick.  Hell I am not sure we should take him at 6 but I will trust MacCags and especially Bowles to figure out how to use him to take best advantage of his skills and mask his weaknesses.  

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Beasley will be not going 1. I like Beasley too but can't see that happening; if TB decides not to take a qb or trade down, they are taking Williams. He is the best player in this draft.

What makes Williams the best? I hear he's the best, but I never hear peoples reasoning behind or examples of why he's the best. I think that its just the popular notion.

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Okay, now I ask why you like Beasley so much?  He looks great sure, but he is also small.  He's what?  245?  He can play at that weight, but probably not 3-4 OLB.   I'm not sure how much more he can put on.  He looks like a rocket, but there is a big difference between a 240 lb rocket and a guy 260-280,  I am pretty good with the Jets taking him at 6, but I can't see him sniffing #1 overall

On one hand given your own statement, it could be more beneficial that Beasley goes to a team that doesnt run a 3-4 alignment. Well, Tampa runs a 4 man front which would make him a Robert Mathis type defensive end. Mathis weighs the same as Beasley (246) but Beasley is an inch taller (6'3). Mathis averages in the double digits in sacks for his career.

 

Now in defense of the Jets making the pick, under Greg Manusky the Colts scrapped the 4-3 alignment and in 2013 was running a 3-4 hybrid scheme.  And the DE converted OLB, Robert Mathis racked up 19.5 sacks, leading the league in sacks and having his best sack total of his career as a 246lb 3-4 OLB. 

 

Now as I said earlier, I just want to be clear that I HIGHLY doubt that Vic goes #1 only because Tampa could really rack up on draft picks from another team looking to draft Jameis Winston. They could even get a couple picks from the Titans that pick right behind them if the Titans are interested in Winstion. My point is basically that Vic Beasley is that level of talent in my eyes as a pass rusher. I dont at all believe that he would go #1, the statement is more in support of it being a "no-brainer" if Vic is sitting there at #6. 

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Okay, now that I was I was able to add a bit more originality to my picks, here you go. 

 

Rd. 1 Pick 6 OLB Vic Beasley Clemson (most impactful defensive player in the draft imo)

Rd. 2 Pick 5 OT Jake Fisher Oregon (Chan Gailey ran a zone blocking scheme in his spread offense with the Bills)

Rd. 3 Pick 6 RB David Johnson Northern Iowa (I doubt Jay Ajayi makes it to the 3rd round. Johnson can run and is a natural receiver out of the backfield)

Rd. 4. Pick 5 ILB Ben Heeney Kansas (overlooked, solid ILB. Value in the 4th round) 

Rd. 7 Pick 6 QB Austin Dodge Southern Oregon (Blew up the NAIA division. Super accurate deep ball with great trajectory)

Rd. 7 Pick 7 P Kyle Loomis Portland St. (Best punter in college)

 

Leonard Williams is the best player in the draft IMO.  So I disagree with you on Beasley.  And of all the OLB prospects, Beasley scares me the most.  One trick pony.

 

Curious why you like the Tackle?  Where does he fit?

 

David Johnson?  Not sure I like him in the 3rd...I guess it depends on who's there.  I'm not as dead set as others about a RB.  

 

Cant say I know anything about the other players.  Other than I think I just saw you draft a punter. ;-)

 

The closer we get to the draft the more I feel that Vic Beasley may be the best defensive player in this draft in regards to immediate impact on a football team. I can see this draft going like this. 

 

1. Bucs: Winston

2. Titans: Beasley/Mariota/Tradedown

3. Jags: Beasley/Leonard Williams/Tradedown

4. Raiders: Amari Cooper

5. Redskins: Bud Dupree/La'el Collins/Tradedown

6. Jets:????

 

I personally dont see the Jets even having a real shot at Beasley which is why I feel we should trade down and take advantage of other players being on the board (White, Mariota etc.). However, if Beasley is there you dont even wait the 10 minutes. You run to the podium and call his name. 

 

I think it goes like this,

Winston

Mariota

Williams

Cooper

Fowler

 

Leaving the Jets in a "who the **** do we take" scenario.  Dupree?  Hope so.  Not big on Beasley.

 

I've been seeing some Shane Ray to the Jets mocks and he's the other guy I'm just scared sh*tless of.  

Basically, if the Jets take Ray, Beasley or Gregory, I'm going to pee myself in fear. 

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Leonard Williams is the best player in the draft IMO.  So I disagree with you on Beasley.  And of all the OLB prospects, Beasley scares me the most.  One trick pony.

 

Curious why you like the Tackle?  Where does he fit?

 

David Johnson?  Not sure I like him in the 3rd...I guess it depends on who's there.  I'm not as dead set as others about a RB.  

 

Cant say I know anything about the other players.  Other than I think I just saw you draft a punter. ;-)

 

 

I think it goes like this,

Winston

Mariota

Williams

Cooper

Fowler

 

Leaving the Jets in a "who the **** do we take" scenario.  Dupree?  Hope so.  Not big on Beasley.

 

I've been seeing some Shane Ray to the Jets mocks and he's the other guy I'm just scared sh*tless of.  

Basically, if the Jets take Ray, Beasley or Gregory, I'm going to pee myself in fear. 

Yeah me too because he has to play with his hand in the dirt.  We have enough defensive lineman.  We need a pass rusher who can play or be groomed to play linebacker.  I hope Ray is not the pick.  I would be okay with Beasley or Gregory because they have much higher ceilings and much better all around athletes.   Btw if your scenario happens that is when MacCags needs to be on speed dial with other clubs trying like hell to trade down....

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Yeah me too because he has to play with his hand in the dirt.  We have enough defensive lineman.  We need a pass rusher who can play or be groomed to play linebacker.  I hope Ray is not the pick.  I would be okay with Beasley or Gregory because they have much higher ceilings and much better all around athletes.   Btw if your scenario happens that is when MacCags needs to be on speed dial with other clubs trying like hell to trade down....

 

Yeah but for what?  Who's moving to no mans land?  And what player would they trade with us for?

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I can't get behind Beasley @6. I don't trust him that much. Fowler sure. Ray, oh hell yes. Cooper even if need be... but i'd be disappointed by Beasley. Don't think he goes till after 10. Possible the bears or Falcons take him I guess, but we'll see. 

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Agreed.  He also is a work in progress vs. the run.  You don't draft works in progress with # 1 overall pick.  Hell I am not sure we should take him at 6 but I will trust MacCags and especially Bowles to figure out how to use him to take best advantage of his skills and mask his weaknesses.  

So, Jameis Winston is not a work in progress?

 

Please, no explanations. Im looking specifically for a yes or no answer here. 

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What makes Williams the best? I hear he's the best, but I never hear peoples reasoning behind or examples of why he's the best. I think that its just the popular notion.

That has been the consensus of just about every draft guru out there.  He has been projected to go either 2 or 3 on almost every mock I have seen and the only reason he isn't projected number 1 overall is because of the quarterbacks. 

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So, Jameis Winston is not a work in progress?

 

Please, no explanations. Im looking specifically for a yes or no answer here. 

All rooks are to a degree because the NFL is much more difficult level than college, but Winston played in a pro style offense; has demonstrated he can go through his progressions, can make every single throw.  Mariota on the other hand hasn't even taken a snap under center; do you see the difference?  He is basically a smarter Geno Smith and almost as raw coming out of college.  Sorry but I am not taking a player like that # 1 overall especially when there are better options available. 

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I can't get behind Beasley @6. I don't trust him that much. Fowler sure. Ray, oh hell yes. Cooper even if need be... but i'd be disappointed by Beasley. Don't think he goes till after 10. Possible the bears or Falcons take him I guess, but we'll see. 

I can most definitely understand your distrust for Beasley. Dude is a a high risk/high reward type talent given that he was strictly used as a pass rusher and we have no idea what he could be in the coverage/run game. Im not hiding from that fact at all. I think his ability to rush the passer is good enough for a 6th pick selection. 

 

Now with that, I must say that Im very concerned with the Fowler praise. First, I believe that we should really get this straight and make it known that Dante Fowler is not a pass rusher. In his 3 years he's amassed just 14.5 sacks. Now if we're talking about a guy who is "well rounded", and can contribute in the run game, then I have to ask "where the hell are his tackling stats? In 3 years Fowler has had double digit tackles in a game just once. 

 

Now I know that literally half of Beasley's year consisted of having just 1 or less solo tackles in a game (6 of 13 games), but Beasley has the excuse given that he was exclusively used as a pass rusher at Clemson. Now, compare this with Fowler's "total" tackles (includes both solo and assisted) and you'll notice that Fowler had 7 games where he registered 4 or less total tackles in a game. Thats more than half his season from a guy who isn't a pure pass rusher but is touted as more of a "well rounded" OLB.

 

When I watch Fowler's highlight vids, dude looks amazing. When I watch his actual games, dude be disappearing for stretches. Going back to his stats they totally support what I saw. Watching Beasley's highlight vids is the same, amazing. However, when you watch Beasley's actual game tape you can see how the dude is disrupting damn near every other play coming off that edge, something that stats will never show but game tape will. 

 

Shane Ray I think is good though. If I had to pick between Fowler and Ray I'd pick Shane Ray, no hesitation. I could be wrong on Fowler, and if I am someone will let me know, but I've said it before and I'll say it again, I've seen nothing on him that gets me excited. He's made some nice plays but this guy isn't the disrupter that the "storyline" has made him out to be. 

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Yeah but for what?  Who's moving to no mans land?  And what player would they trade with us for?

You never know that is why you make the call and let it me known you would consider trading down.  We don't know who other teams are looking at on their draft boards.  Also can't say for what because it depends on the trade partner. The further down you go, the more you expect to get back.   This draft has a lot of blue chip talent in my opinion.  The more of those players we can add to our team the better.  

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I can most definitely understand your distrust for Beasley. Dude is a a high risk/high reward type talent given that he was strictly used as a pass rusher and we have no idea what he could be in the coverage/run game. Im not hiding from that fact at all. I think his ability to rush the passer is good enough for a 6th pick selection. 

 

Now with that, I must say that Im very concerned with the Fowler praise. First, I believe that we should really get this straight and make it known that Dante Fowler is not a pass rusher. In his 3 years he's amassed just 14.5 sacks. Now if we're talking about a guy who is "well rounded", and can contribute in the run game, then I have to ask "where the hell are his tackling stats? In 3 years Fowler has had double digit tackles in a game just once. 

 

Now I know that literally half of Beasley's year consisted of having just 1 or less solo tackles in a game (6 of 13 games), but Beasley has the excuse given that he was exclusively used as a pass rusher at Clemson. Now, compare this with Fowler's "total" tackles (includes both solo and assisted) and you'll notice that Fowler had 7 games where he registered 4 or less total tackles in a game. Thats more than half his season from a guy who isn't a pure pass rusher but is touted as more of a "well rounded" OLB.

 

When I watch Fowler's highlight vids, dude looks amazing. When I watch his actual games, dude be disappearing for stretches. Going back to his stats they totally support what I saw. Watching Beasley's highlight vids is the same, amazing. However, when you watch Beasley's actual game tape you can see how the dude is disrupting damn near every other play coming off that edge, something that stats will never show but game tape will. 

 

Shane Ray I think is good though. If I had to pick between Fowler and Ray I'd pick Shane Ray, no hesitation. I could be wrong on Fowler, and if I am someone will let me know, but I've said it before and I'll say it again, I've seen nothing on him that gets me excited. He's made some nice plays but this guy isn't the disrupter that the "storyline" has made him out to be. 

 

 

I'm not blown away by Fowler (aka bryan thomas v.2) but i get why teams will get behind him. He's an NFL OLB... the bust rate on those guys is probably something like 65%, so i can understand why teams feel good about him.. but he's not going to light up the stat sheet with sacks. People don't know Fowler if that's what they think he is. 

 

Ray i'm 100% positive is a legit nightmare for QBs. He's the terminator. He'll never stop - and even when he doesn't sack the QB, he's causing all kinds of disruption both inside and outside.... does he fit a 3-4?... i don't think so... so there's that. 

 

Vic chicken legs just isn't worth that high a pick. There's so many other players that are better selections IMO

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That has been the consensus of just about every draft guru out there.  He has been projected to go either 2 or 3 on almost every mock I have seen and the only reason he isn't projected number 1 overall is because of the quarterbacks. 

"Draft guru"???? Those are like unicorns brother. Not real. 

 

What I meant was, "what have YOU seen from him that gives you the indication that he is what you say he is"? Im not talking about what the talking heads have told us. 

 

I have a guy, Efrem Oliphant from the University of Houston that I believe is a top 5 4-3 outside linebacker in this years draft, yet I can pretty much bet that you've never heard of him. I go out and look at guys for myself. I take into consideration what the talking heads say, but I look for myself. I want to know what you've seen that supports your position. If you can't give me that then how do you expect me or anyone to respect your position if you've not even looked to see for yourself why you believe what you believe? 

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