rkw522 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hey just wanted to share this article about how the Jets and Eagles have a very similar QB situation. It's just ironic it involves Mark Sanchez in some aspect again. http://www.interstateofgreen.com/#!Inside-and-Outside-the-Lines-QB-Edition/civp/5523195c0cf21e26badaa247 Twitter-@interstategreen Jets The term “Franchise Quarterback” and New York Jets just don’t seem to go together. We have been teased before, Mark Sanchez and his early success had even the biggest skeptics thinking that the Jets may have found the face of the franchise… or “The Sanchize”. We have been teased by Chad Pennington, who was probably the closest the Jets have come to having a true leader under center but injuries and Brett Favre brought that to an end. I think we can all agree that the franchise QB the Jets covet is not on the current roster. Lets take a look… Geno Smith: The last game of the 2013 and 2014 seasons have been the two best games of his career. Both games were played in Miami against the Dolphins. While every Jets fan loves to beat the Dolphins, Geno has failed to show the same consistency against the rest of the NFL. Ryan Fitzpatrick: Picking up Fitzpatrick for a conditional 2016 pick looks like a great move for the Jets. He will bring a veteran presence to the Jets and provide a true QB competition. Unlike the old Jets regime that preached competition at every position but basically anointed Geno the starter last season, the new regime seems poised to let the play on the field do the talking. This bodes well for Fitzpatrick, the journeyman knows the Chan Gailey system well from when they worked together in Buffalo. The Harvard grad has a big arm, a big brain and a big opportunity to earn another chance in the league as a starting QB. Matt Simms: The son of former Giant Phil Simms, has been a developmental QB for the last few years. He has a strong arm but accuracy seems to be his issue. I don’t see Matt making a push to be a starter but I do think he could be a solid NFL #2. Position Grade: D This is the position of the unknown for the Jets. Can Geno play at the level he did in the season finally? Will Fitzpatrick have similar success with Chan Gailey as he did in Buffalo? I think the answer to both questions is no.. I think both Geno and Fitzpatrick can be serviceable but they are hold the fort guys till the Jets finally find the second coming of Joe Namath. Draft: We know the two big names and we know that Winston is all but locked into the first pick. Mariota is the wild card, there is a decent chance he could be there when the Jets pick. I just cant see the Jets taking a QB with the 6th pick. I think its more likely they grab one of the second tier guys like Brett Hundley, Garrett Grayson, or Bryce Petty in rounds 2-3. All three should be decent developmental QB’s but none would have an immediate impact. Eagles The Eagles QB position may take the prize as most talked about position on any team in football this offseason. Fueled by the blockbuster trade that brought in Sam Bradford and shipped out Nick Foles, Chip Kelly has the entire league guessing what he is doing at all positions, not just QB. Sam Bradford: The question all Eagle fans want to know is how Sam Bradford will fit into the Chip Kelly offense. I think he is a good fit. Bradford is an accurate passer with a strong arm. He is a classic pocket passer and keeps his eyes downfield. The biggest question with Bradford is if he can stay healthy. He has been plagued with injuries his entire career. If he can, I think he and the Eagles are a very good fit. Mark Sanchez: Sanchez filled in nicely for the first few weeks when Nick Foles went down last year. Unfortunately, Mark went back to his inconsistent ways towards the end of the season and the Eagles missed the playoffs. The fact that the Eagles made it a priority to bring Sanchez back for 2015 would leave me to believe that Chip Kelly thinks he sees value with Sanchez as a number 2 QB. He will be a good fill in short term if Bradford goes down. Matt Barkley: The fact that the Eagles kicked the tires on Tim Tebow this offseason tells you all that you need to know about where Barkley stands on this roster. It would be a surprise to me if Barkley is on the roster come training camp. GJ Kinne: Kinne spent last year as a practice squad player. Making the Eagles roster for 2015 is a long shot. Position Grade: C+ Both their starter and backup QB are veterans who have played in the league with mixed success. If Bradford can stay healthy, this C+ can easily become a B+/A-. Draft: We all know who Chip Kelly thinks the best QB in the draft is. The question is, do we think he makes a major move up in the draft to get Marcus Mariota. I think it is possible but not likely. The Eagles would have to give up a kings ransom to make this kind of move. I think its much more likely that they take one of the second or third tier players and let them sit and learn behind Bradford and Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 whaaaaaa??...but Eagles.....er, ah....Bradford....yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Still find it is that the eagles got rid of foles like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Still find it is that the eagles got rid of foles like that. Yeah, Chip has something in the works. Perhaps the Eagles/Browns/Tennessee rumors have some merit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Still find it is that the eagles got rid of foles like that. Heard an interesting theory on this yesterday that Eagles fans probably aren't thrilled about. Sal Pal said Chip Kelly's inexperience is showing because they made the deal for Bradford with the expectation of dealing him to the Browns. The Browns said they would do a deal for Bradford as long as Philly got him to sign an extension first. Philly approached Bradford about an extension as soon as they dealt for him and he shot them down because he wants to be a FA. Now Chip has a QB he only traded for so that he could use him for a first rounder and Cleveland isn't willing to make the move w/o the extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Buy the groceries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Heard an interesting theory on this yesterday that Eagles fans probably aren't thrilled about. Sal Pal said Chip Kelly's inexperience is showing because they made the deal for Bradford with the expectation of dealing him to the Browns. The Browns said they would do a deal for Bradford as long as Philly got him to sign an extension first. Philly approached Bradford about an extension as soon as they dealt for him and he shot them down because he wants to be a FA. Now Chip has a QB he only traded for so that he could use him for a first rounder and Cleveland isn't willing to make the move w/o the extension. Wow. That is crazy if that is true Chip is screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Wow. That is crazy if that is true Chip is screwed. I can't see how he isn't. All we keep hearing about him and his offense is that he must have a mobile QB. Not only was Bradford a statue out of college, but now he's had two knee surgeries. It's such a bad fit that I just can't see Philly not dealing him before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/4/8/8370307/sam-bradford-trade-rumors-eagles-pro-shop-jerseys-quarterback-browns Who's ready for another conspiracy? Late last week, the Daily News ran a story about how local Eagles jersey vendors are struggling to make big inventory decisions due to the team's wild offseason. More specifically, these stores are afraid to stock Sam Bradford jerseys due to the looming Marcus Mariota speculation. According to NJ.com, however, it's not just local vendors who aren't stocking Bradford jerseys. Eliot Shorr-Parks reports that none of the Eagles' Pro Shops have these items in stock. "A survey of the Eagles three Pro Shops, located in Cherry Hill, Philadelphia and Lancaster, showed that as of April 7, not a single store is carrying a No. 7 Sam Bradford jersey. New running back DeMarco Murray? All sizes are available. New cornerback Byron Maxwell? That has been a popular item, but two of the three stores had them available, and the third was expecting a new shipment any day. As for the team's quarterback? Not a single one of the three stores, owned and operated by the Eagles, had received a shipment of the Bradford jerseys, nor did any of the employees have any information as to when they might get one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Chip Kelly to Eagles fans: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Heard an interesting theory on this yesterday that Eagles fans probably aren't thrilled about. Sal Pal said Chip Kelly's inexperience is showing because they made the deal for Bradford with the expectation of dealing him to the Browns. The Browns said they would do a deal for Bradford as long as Philly got him to sign an extension first. Philly approached Bradford about an extension as soon as they dealt for him and he shot them down because he wants to be a FA. Now Chip has a QB he only traded for so that he could use him for a first rounder and Cleveland isn't willing to make the move w/o the extension. WOW. Would love to see the Jets acquire Bradford in a fire sale type deal right before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Question. AS a rule it was my understanding that teams who are shopping a player in the last year of his contract, usually allow a trade partner to negotiate a contract before the deal is done. Is that no longer done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Can not really blame Bradford for not wanting to go to the Browns. If Mariota there at 6 and Philly wants to give us #20 and Bradford, in a NY minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 so this comes from a blog dedicated to the similarities between the eagles and jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Heard an interesting theory on this yesterday that Eagles fans probably aren't thrilled about. Sal Pal said Chip Kelly's inexperience is showing because they made the deal for Bradford with the expectation of dealing him to the Browns. The Browns said they would do a deal for Bradford as long as Philly got him to sign an extension first. Philly approached Bradford about an extension as soon as they dealt for him and he shot them down because he wants to be a FA. Now Chip has a QB he only traded for so that he could use him for a first rounder and Cleveland isn't willing to make the move w/o the extension. Yes. The deal is being held up because the guy who's been hurt his whole career is insisting on playing out his walk year. This theory is too dumb to be interesting. If the Cleveland trade happens it will be something like 19 and Manziel for Bradford and a fifth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Question. AS a rule it was my understanding that teams who are shopping a player in the last year of his contract, usually allow a trade partner to negotiate a contract before the deal is done. Is that no longer done? Correct. Particularly if you are paying full price for them as the Eagles were. Sal Pal throws a lot up against the wall, particularly as it pertains to the Eagles. Not all of it is fact based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Yes. The deal is being held up because the guy who's been hurt his whole career is insisting on playing out his walk year. This theory is too dumb to be interesting. If the Cleveland trade happens it will be something like 19 and Manziel for Bradford and a fifth. Two or three days after the trade it was being reported that the two sides were opening talks for an extension...somebody didn't want one apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Question. AS a rule it was my understanding that teams who are shopping a player in the last year of his contract, usually allow a trade partner to negotiate a contract before the deal is done. Is that no longer done? That's another odd part of the equation....none of it makes sense from a practical standpoint which is why so many theories are floating around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Except they have Sanchez and not us... Thank God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Mariota is most likely going to SD after Tennessee sends pick number 2 for SD's first pick and Philip Rivers. That seems the most logical and likely of the scenarios I have heard or read about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Still find it is that the eagles got rid of foles like that. the story the team spread was that Foles was unhappy in Philadelphia and he was going to leave anyway, so why not get something for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Heard an interesting theory on this yesterday that Eagles fans probably aren't thrilled about. Sal Pal said Chip Kelly's inexperience is showing because they made the deal for Bradford with the expectation of dealing him to the Browns. The Browns said they would do a deal for Bradford as long as Philly got him to sign an extension first. Philly approached Bradford about an extension as soon as they dealt for him and he shot them down because he wants to be a FA. Now Chip has a QB he only traded for so that he could use him for a first rounder and Cleveland isn't willing to make the move w/o the extension. I hope this is true so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I hope this is true so bad. Same here but everything surrounding him is just so damn strange right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 the story the team spread was that Foles was unhappy in Philadelphia and he was going to leave anyway, so why not get something for him If I was the GM and my QB threw for 27 TDs and 2 INTs I would hire a therapist to convince the QB that he is happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 the story the team spread was that Foles was unhappy in Philadelphia and he was going to leave anyway, so why not get something for him Where'd they spread that? I listen to two hours of Philly sports radio to and from work every day and this is the first time I've heard this. The only story I keep hearing is that Chip didn't like Foles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Wow. That is crazy if that is true Chip is screwed. No he's not. Sanchez was basically the same sh-t as Foles in that system. What's going to kill the eagles is losing Desean Jackson and Maclin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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