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do the jets actually rank among the NFL's worst-drafting teams ? ? ?


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When it comes to the Jets and the NFL Draft, the organization has a reputation for, well, messing the thing up.That's not to say the Jets have never drafted a good player or three.

 

They drafted quarterback Joe Namath first overall in the 1965 AFL Draft, and he led them to their lone Super Bowl championship. In 2007, the Jets picked cornerback Darrelle Revis 14th overall, and he turned into one of the finest defensive backs of his era.But the Jets have also committed some notable draft blunders over the years. Their 1995 selection of tight end Kyle Brady over future Hall of Fame defensive tackle Warren Sapp comes to mind.

 

So where do the Jets rank among the NFL's worst-drafting teams ?

 

As it turns out, they don't rank among the lowest of the low at all -- at least based on one study.ESPN recently rated the NFL's five worst-drafting teams, but only used the time frame of 2002 (when the league expanded to 32 teams) through the 2012 draft. ESPN excluded the 2013 and 2014 drafts, because not enough time has passed to judge those drafted players.

 

Here's more on how ESPN performed this study:

 

To evaluate which draft picks were gems and which were busts, we utilized Pro Football Reference's Approximate Value (AV) metric to break down how every NFL draft pick since 2002 performed in his first four years in the league (approximate length of his rookie contract). We compared each player's four-year AV to what would be expected of a player selected in the same draft slot to determine which players over- and underperformed the most compared to expectations. By adding up the AV differences for all of a team's draft picks, we can determine which teams excel at finding value in the draft -- and which teams aren't as successful.

 

In the end, ESPN came up with the Lions as by far the worst-drafting team of this time frame, followed by the Raiders, Rams, Buccaneers and Browns. ESPN listed the Bills, Chiefs and Washington in the "dishonorable mention" category. (ESPN's five best-drafting teams: the Seahawks, Colts, Eagles, Packers and Steelers.)

 

But yet, no Jets among those bottom eight.

 

The Revis selection in 2007 certainly helps the Jets' cause. They also got two long-term offensive line starters in 2006: center Nick Mangold and left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson.Yes, former general manager Mike Tannenbaum struggled in his final five drafts (2008-12). And remember, this ESPN study didn't include the (so far) uneven results of ex-GM John Idzik's two drafts,in 2013 and 2014.But Tannenbaum did make those aforementioned wise picks in 2006 and 2007. And remember, the Jets got linebacker Jonathan Vilma in the first round in 2004. He went on to enjoy a very productive career.

 

All of that was apparently enough to keep the Jets out of the bottom eight in ESPN's worst-drafting teams study.Do you agree with ESPN's findings? Disagree? Leave your thoughts in the comments section below.

 

> http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2015/04/espn_nfl_worst-drafting_teams_jets_bottom_five.html

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In the 1970's the Jets were certainly the worst. It got better in the 1977 season and a few years after that. Under Joe Walton it got bad again with guys like Ron Faurot, Dave Cadigan, Roger Vick and Russell Carter etc...Even Parcells had a few bad ones - Dwayne Robertson and Justin Miller to name a few. I agree that in the last few decades the Lions, Rams, Browns and Raiders have done a pi$$ poor job, but the Jets haven't set the world on fire over the years. They missed out on or passed over a dozen Hall of Fame players including Alan Page, Dan Marino, Emmitt Smith and Jerry Rice. Jets draft history has been spotty. They have missed on high picks but found gems in the low rounds like Joe Klecko, Joe Fields, Dan Alexander and a few others. Very mixed bag, but I hope it gets better.

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The perception of the Jets as a horrible drafting team comes from two sources - the obnoxious douches at ESPN and our whiny bitch fanbase. 

You obviously don't follow Jets drafting history very well. They aren't totally awful, but in certain years they have been. How about Roger Vick as a first round draft pick?

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You obviously don't follow Jets drafting history very well. They aren't totally awful, but in certain years they have been. How about Roger Vick as a first round draft pick?

 

:face:

 

EVERY TEAM HAS DRAFTED ITS SHARE OF BUSTS. 

 

Using one pick from 30-plus years ago doesn't prove anything but me being right about our fanbase. 

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:face:

 

EVERY TEAM HAS DRAFTED ITS SHARE OF BUSTS. 

 

Using one pick from 30-plus years ago doesn't prove anything but me being right about our fanbase. 

Dude, I am writing a BOOK on the Jets draft history and it is called CLUELESS. I have the Jets ENTIRE draft history on a database and it does not reflect a competent draft history. In 1967 the Jets drafted Paul Seiler as the first round pick instead of Alan Page, Gene Upshaw, Lem Barney and Willie Lanier. In '68 it was Curley Culp, Elvin Bethea and Art Shell. I could go on and on including Vick, and Carl Barzolauskas in 1974 when Lynn Swann, Dave Casper and Jack Lambert were available.

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We could have had 3 HOF QB's Marino,Farve and Peyton..

To be fair, so could a lot of other teams.

Question is, had we drafted any of those guys, would they have been as successful with us as they were with the teams they went to? In other words, do we draft poorly, or do we do a poor job developing who we draft?

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We could have had 3 HOF QB's Marino,Farve and Peyton..

 

Ok, two other teams who also drafted QBs that didn't turn out to be Hall of Famers also could have drafted Marino in 1983, all picked ahead of the Jets. How come I never hear the Chiefs or Pats criticized for not taking Marino?

 

We never had a shot to draft Peyton because Bill Parcells was a ******* moron. 

 

We never had a chance to draft Favre because the Giants overvalued Jarrod Bunch. 

 

That's still only one pick. 

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Dude, I am writing a BOOK on the Jets draft history and it is called CLUELESS. I have the Jets ENTIRE draft history on a database and it does not reflect a competent draft history. In 1967 the Jets drafted Paul Seiler as the first round pick instead of Alan Page, Gene Upshaw, Lem Barney and Willie Lanier. In '68 it was Curley Culp, Elvin Bethea and Art Shell. I could go on and on including Vick, and Carl Barzolauskas in 1974 when Lynn Swann, Dave Casper and Jack Lambert were available.

 

For perspective and so your book doesn't come off like the rantings of a whiny lunatic, I suggest you research EVERY OTHER ******* NFL TEAM'S DRAFT HISTORY AND BUY A ******* CLUE BECAUSE EVERY TEAM HAS STORIES LIKE THAT!

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In the 1970's the Jets were certainly the worst. It got better in the 1977 season and a few years after that. Under Joe Walton it got bad again with guys like Ron Faurot, Dave Cadigan, Roger Vick and Russell Carter etc...Even Parcells had a few bad ones - Dwayne Robertson and Justin Miller to name a few. I agree that in the last few decades the Lions, Rams, Browns and Raiders have done a pi$$ poor job, but the Jets haven't set the world on fire over the years. They missed out on or passed over a dozen Hall of Fame players including Alan Page, Dan Marino, Emmitt Smith and Jerry Rice. Jets draft history has been spotty. They have missed on high picks but found gems in the low rounds like Joe Klecko, Joe Fields, Dan Alexander and a few others. Very mixed bag, but I hope it gets better.

 

**** you, buddy!

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I'm not going to bother looking at how they came up with the rankings. It's pretty clear that the Jets' recent draft history is bad. Not the ESPN blooper reel stuff, we run about average in the first round. But the second and third have been ******* horrific and there certainly hasn't been the kind of success in the late rounds that would balance that out.

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We could have had 3 HOF QB's Marino,Farve and Peyton..

Jets were never, ever going to draft Marino. They felt snake bit by bad knees, and even worse were the cocaine rumors. Those ere 2 big red x's to the Jets in the 80's.

 

As we all know, they wanted Favre badly. They just got outmaneuvered.

 

On Manning, I think Parcells did not want to babysit a qb. He knew his time was short, and did not want to fill that time wet nursing a baby qb.

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Jets were never, ever going to draft Marino. They felt snake bit by bad knees, and even worse were the cocaine rumors. Those ere 2 big red x's to the Jets in the 80's.

 

As we all know, they wanted Favre badly. They just got outmaneuvered.

 

On Manning, I think Parcells did not want to babysit a qb. He knew his time was short, and did not want to fill that time wet nursing a baby qb.

+ a million.. :winking0001: He said he would only coach for 3 years..

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Even Parcells had a few bad ones - Dwayne Robertson and Justin Miller to name a few.

Robertson and Miller were courtesy of Mr. Bradway but Parcells did have several stinkers including Dorian Boose and Scott Frost.  He also passed on Orlando Pace and ended up with James Farrior who was not a bust but certainly not worthy of a top 10 pick and he had a much better carrier in Pitt than he did with the Jets.

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Robertson and Miller were courtesy of Mr. Bradway but Parcells did have several stinkers including Dorian Boose and Scott Frost.  He also passed on Orlando Pace and ended up with James Farrior who was not a bust but certainly not worthy of a top 10 pick and he had a much better carrier in Pitt than he did with the Jets.

Scott Frost was a QB in college as a matter of fact Frost led Nebraska to the 1997 National Championship with a 42-17 Orange Bowl win over Peyton Manning's Tennessee Volunteers..

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Parcells had several drafts that would make Idzik look like Ozzie Newsome.

It turns out he wasn't that good at buying the groceries after all.. I give him credit for getting Vinny and in 1997 if he wanted a RB he could have drafted Cory Dillon with a 2nd rd pick.

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It turns out he wasn't that good at buying the groceries after all.. I give him credit for getting Vinny and in 1997 if he wanted a RB he could have drafted Cory Dillon with a 2nd rd pick.

 

To be fair, no whiffs with the four first rounders.  No HOFers, but Ellis had a nice career, Abraham was a HOFer if he could've stayed healthy, Pennington would've been better if no shoulder injuries, and Becht was a disappointment, but better than  many first rounders this franchise has had.

 

Big picture though...terrible draft record.

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To be fair, no whiffs with the four first rounders.  No HOFers, but Ellis had a nice career, Abraham was a HOFer if he could've stayed healthy, Pennington would've been better if no shoulder injuries, and Becht was a disappointment, but better than  many first rounders this franchise has had.

 

Big picture though...terrible draft record.

Oh I agree Ellis and Abe were excellent picks as was Chad plus 7th rd pick Fergie turned out well.. Ellis cost us a 2nd rd pick also to move up to get him higher in the first..

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Oh I agree Ellis and Abe were excellent picks as was Chad plus 7th rd pick Fergie turned out well.. Ellis cost us a 2nd rd pick also to move up to get him higher in the first..

 

Next best pick was probably Fabini...rock solid starter who I believe went in the 4th out of Cincy.

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