SouthernJet Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I asked Doug Orth, NFL draft analyst for FF Today, and USA Today Weekend Edition Contributor; Editor for http://Football.com the following: Rich @SouthernJetNC 1h1 hour ago @FF_Today @DougOrth Guys, in your opinion, who is the best pass catching RB in draft? Not best at run/pass,, best at pure catching? Thanks Doug Orth@DougOrth @SouthernJetNC @FF_Today David Johnson (UNI) is probably the most proven with at least 30 catches each year. Jay Ajayi is up there too. You see us drafting one of these guys , and if yes, where do they fall round-wise??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I have him in my final mock as our 3rd round pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 I got him in my final mock as our 3rd round pick up. Him? He mentioned 2 guys? Which one, and thanks for responding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Ajayi sounds like a total complete back. They really like the guy on path to the draft. Can run, catch block, a three down back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 Pass catching back achilles heel to us right now, we need one. Amaro (since Marshall/Decker will get CBs now) should have single LB coverage most of the time and will serve as a safety valve who 'should' be open. But if we can pair Amaro and a reliable pass catching RB for 3rd long, it will be a formidable arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Him? He mentioned 2 guys? Which one, and thanks for responding David Johnson. I put my final Mock up on April 1st. Its crazy because I stated that we would pick up David Johnson because Jay Ajayi would be gone by the time we picked in the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 David Johnson. I put my final Mock up on April 1st. Its crazy because I stated that we would pick up David Johnson because Jay Ajayi would be gone by the time we picked in the 3rd round. LOL, cool, u hit both guys.. so you would be happy w/either it appears ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 LOL, cool, u hit both guys.. so you would be happy w/either it appears ? I would. My thoughts behind it was Doug Martin has been a disappointment since he finished that awesome rookie season. What better to do than to pair up Jameis Winston with Jay Ajayi at running back? That was my thoughts on why he wouldnt be there by the time we picked. However, if Jay is there I wouldnt mind taking him for sure. I dont totally agree with the Marshawn Lynch comparison from NFL.com, he doesnt break enough tackles, however, Ajayi from the few games I've seen is a north south runner and he hits the hole, and he has dependable hands. He's a big back too. Not one of those scat backs that will only come in on 3rd down. Ajayi doesnt have to come off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Gurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Gurley I wouldn't spend a 1st or 2nd round pick on Gurley, and thats probably what it would take to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Bruce Harper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Third Down Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Duke Johnson, or Jay Ajayi are who I want the Jets to pick in the third round, if still available. Pick 37 is too high. If they are gone, then Tevin Coleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Ajayai is more LeVeon Bell than Marshawn. Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Ajayi in rd 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I wouldn't spend a 1st or 2nd round pick on Gurley, and thats probably what it would take to get him. Gurley is worth 10 Mike Glennon (s) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Duke or Abdullah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Gurley is worth 10 Mike Glennon (s) . .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 David Johnson. I put my final Mock up on April 1st. Its crazy because I stated that we would pick up David Johnson because Jay Ajayi would be gone by the time we picked in the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I wouldn't spend a 1st or 2nd round pick on Gurley, and thats probably what it would take to get him. Gurleys injury sucked for the kid, it really dropped him in most boards I would imagine. I also wonder if the fact that his back up (forget hos name) looked just as good, if not better, for Georgia. With that said....remember marshawn lynch fell to the bottom of the first w knee injury? I'm not saying Gurley is lynch by any means, but some lucky team might get great value if Gurley drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I've been heaving coal into the belly of the David Johnson train since last september... I like that he's getting the recognition these days, but it's also driving his price up i'm sure too. I had hopes of getting him in the 4th, but that seems like a distant dream. He'll go late 2nd, early 3rd IMO.... I felt the same way about J. McKinnon last year and the sumbitch went in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 thanks guys, I think this is a big area of need for the jets, some good guys to keep an eye on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I thought I read that Gurley will not be ready for the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I've been heaving coal into the belly of the David Johnson train since last september... I like that he's getting the recognition these days, but it's also driving his price up i'm sure too. I had hopes of getting him in the 4th, but that seems like a distant dream. He'll go late 2nd, early 3rd IMO.... I felt the same way about J. McKinnon last year and the sumbitch went in the 3rd. who does his running style remind you of ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 who does his running style remind you of ? Plays like Forte, runs like SJax Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I was thinking Emmitt Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigalbarracuda Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Surprised I don't hear more Ameer Abdullah talk around these parts. The kid will be available at our pick in Rd 2, he's not big but he's a legit 3-round back that can catch. From his NFL Draft Profile: "Highly competitive with a high football IQ. Hasn't dropped a pass in two years and can be a valuable weapon in passing attack. Will make arm tacklers pay and is better in short yardage than most backs his size. Can help immediately as a punt or kick returner. Personal and football character is considered off-the-charts by the scouting community." "He has the highest overall character grade I've ever given to a prospect, and includes both football character and off-the-field. Aside from (Melvin) Gordon and (Todd) Gurley, I think he's the third best running back in this draft." -- AFC North scout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Maybe the Pats can draft him. He can help them with Character and they can teach him their secret on how not to fumble > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I'm enamored with Ty Montgomery as a possible converted tailback. He's a utility guy a.k.a. "OW (Offensive Weapon)" a la Cordelle Patterson, Joshn Cribbs, Percy Harvin, Tavon Austin..etc. but in an every down back body (6-0 220). He was listed as a WR on Stanford's roster only because they had to categorize him somehow. The truth is that he was really a man without a position very much like the guys I referenced. He played WR (slot and outside), RB and QB as well as returned punts and kicks, which he is great at. Like Denard Robinson a couple years ago, he is a prime RB conversion candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mKavhm6Kk8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'm enamored with Ty Montgomery as a possible converted tailback. He's a utility guy a.k.a. "OW (Offensive Weapon)" a la Cordelle Patterson, Joshn Cribbs, Percy Harvin, Tavon Austin..etc. but in an every down back body (6-0 220). He was listed as a WR on Stanford's roster only because they had to categorize him somehow. The truth is that he was really a man without a position very much like the guys I referenced. He played WR (slot and outside), RB and QB as well as returned punts and kicks, which he is great at. Like Denard Robinson a couple years ago, he is a prime RB conversion candidate. I am on board with that as well. He would be a perfect fit in Gaileys offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I am on board with that as well. He would be a perfect fit in Gaileys offense. PFF agrees that Montgomery should consider switching to running back. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/04/07/cff-overview-wrs-something-to-work-with/ Ty Montgomery, Stanford Ty Montgomery is a poor receiver. You don’t want him playing wide out for your team. His hands are poor, featuring some extremely ugly drops over the year. His routes are labored, and he doesn’t seem comfortable with what he is doing at all. So what is there to work with? I think he’s a running back, and a pretty good one, masquerading at receiver. The other bonus with Montgomery is he will be a very useful return man into the bargain. I have seen him compared to Cordarrelle Patterson, and while I think that’s a pretty good fit, the difference between the two is body type. Patterson is 6-foot-2 and is built and runs like a receiver, so any backfield carries he is given will be occasional. Montgomery is 6-foot at best and 220 pounds. He is built like a runner and does his best work with the ball in his hands, even running between the tackles. Only four receivers notched more missed tackles forced than Montgomery’s 17, and the lowest number of receptions amongst them had 45 more than the Stanford Cardinal. He may not be viable as a receiver, but hand him the ball as a running back and you might just have something. Signature Stat: Averaged 12.4 yards per carry on wide receiver runs (end arounds etc), but a respectable 4.8 yards per carry on conventional running back carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 PFF agrees that Montgomery should consider switching to running back. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/04/07/cff-overview-wrs-something-to-work-with/ Ty Montgomery, Stanford Ty Montgomery is a poor receiver. You don’t want him playing wide out for your team. His hands are poor, featuring some extremely ugly drops over the year. His routes are labored, and he doesn’t seem comfortable with what he is doing at all. So what is there to work with? I think he’s a running back, and a pretty good one, masquerading at receiver. The other bonus with Montgomery is he will be a very useful return man into the bargain. I have seen him compared to Cordarrelle Patterson, and while I think that’s a pretty good fit, the difference between the two is body type. Patterson is 6-foot-2 and is built and runs like a receiver, so any backfield carries he is given will be occasional. Montgomery is 6-foot at best and 220 pounds. He is built like a runner and does his best work with the ball in his hands, even running between the tackles. Only four receivers notched more missed tackles forced than Montgomery’s 17, and the lowest number of receptions amongst them had 45 more than the Stanford Cardinal. He may not be viable as a receiver, but hand him the ball as a running back and you might just have something. Signature Stat: Averaged 12.4 yards per carry on wide receiver runs (end arounds etc), but a respectable 4.8 yards per carry on conventional running back carries. What round is Montgomery projected to go? If he is still there in round 4 we should definitely snatch him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 What round is Montgomery projected to go? If he is still there in round 4 we should definitely snatch him up. He'll be there at 4. In fact, 4 might be a round or two too early. Since we do not have a 5th or 6th, that would be the only chance to snatch him up as I don't think he'll last till the 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 This is Tony Pauline's RB Summary. It's a pretty good list.... http://nyj.scout.com/story/1539426-draft-preview-running-backs?s=65 He's not too high on David Johnson but really likes Duke Johnson. Also sees a few small holes in Gordon's game, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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