CTM Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Comics have won Hugos and Pulitzers. If you think anything in that statement of fact was hyperbolic you have absolutely no idea what you are you're talking about. didn't the only comic to win a pullitzer have a subject matter a little more serious then a man running around in his underwear taking on fun but somewhat ridiculous antagonists? besides, maybe my definition of the term "classic" is more rigid then yours but an award that's given to multiple authors annually hardly auto inducts its recipients into the "classics" but we can go with I have no idea what I are i're talking about ... not worth digging my heels in on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 didn't the only comic to win a pullitzer have a subject matter a little more serious then a man running around in his underwear taking on fun but somewhat ridiculous antagonists? besides, maybe my definition of the term "classic" is more rigid then yours but an award that's given to multiple authors annually hardly auto inducts its recipients into the "classics" but we can go with I have no idea what I are i're talking about ... not worth digging my heels in on it Do you know how many books that are generally considered canonical are absolute trash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 didn't the only comic to win a pullitzer have a subject matter a little more serious then a man running around in his underwear taking on fun but somewhat ridiculous antagonists? besides, maybe my definition of the term "classic" is more rigid then yours but an award that's given to multiple authors annually hardly auto inducts its recipients into the "classics" but we can go with I have no idea what I are i're talking about ... not worth digging my heels in on it Bullsh*t. Watchmen was named one of the top 100 books of the century by ******* Time dude. Fun but ridiculous antagonists he says. Yeah, heroin dealers and prostitution. Gangs who are terrorizing a city with rape and assaults. Sounds like a blast. Again, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Do you know how many books that are generally considered canonical are absolute trash? Batman and Superman are taught in university philosophy courses. Just guyz in their undies tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Bullsh*t. Watchmen was named one of the top 100 books of the century by ******* Time dude. Fun but ridiculous antagonists he says. Yeah, heroin dealers and prostitution. Gangs who are terrorizing a city with rape and assaults. Sounds like a blast. Again, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. lol.. ok dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Do you know how many books that are generally considered canonical are absolute trash? not any that were on the time's 100 list, that 4 sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 lol.. ok dude An antagonist in Watchmen murders a child and feeds the body to his dogs. What fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 not any that were on the time's 100 list, that 4 sure Right, I forgot, you're in meetings like this all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Right, I forgot, you're in meetings like this all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Dupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 An antagonist in Watchmen murders a child and feeds the body to his dogs. What fun! we were talking about batman no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 APSA had an urban panel on Batman and Blade Runner last year. But yeah, sh*t's not intellectual enough yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hey I appreciate you guys going back and forth but please refrain from using words that I have no idea what the hell they mean. Don't want to keep flashing back and forth to google. Keep it simple please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 sh*t's not intellectual enough yo. what does one have to do with the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 we were talking about batman no? The Joker beats Robin to death with a crowbar and intentionally paralyzes Barbara Gordon. Fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Do you know how many books that are generally considered canonical are absolute trash? Seriously? Stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 what does one have to do with the other? Critiques of the urban environment. Particularly law enforcement and urban planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 The Joker beats Robin to death with a crowbar and intentionally paralyzes Barbara Gordon. Fun! the joker .., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Critiques of the urban environment. Particularly law enforcement and urban planning. no, my point was that a work needn't be intellectual for it to be a classic, nor does an intellectual work auto qualify as a classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 no, my point was that a work needn't be intellectual for it to be a classic, nor does an intellectual work auto qualify as a classic Homie, If you don't like it why not go to another thread and discuss things you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Homie, If you don't like it why not go to another thread and discuss things you like? who said I didn't like it? I like it .. just wouldn't call it an American literary classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 no, my point was that a work needn't be intellectual for it to be a classic, nor does an intellectual work auto qualify as a classic Your point was that because a guy dresses up and chases guys with ironic nicknames, it therefore can't qualify as classic literature. Or that the subject matter can't be adult enough. You're wrong. And it does. There's a reason TDKR has had the lasting power and influence that it has. It's won actors Oscars, it changed the genre, and it's studied in the realm beyond basic Pop culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 who said I didn't like it? I like it .. just wouldn't call it an American literary classic And you'd be wrong. Because you don't know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Your point was that because a guy dresses up and chases guys with ironic nicknames, it therefore can't qualify as classic literature. Or that the subject matter can't be adult enough. You're wrong. And it does. There's a reason TDKR has had the lasting power and influence that it has. It's won actors Oscars, it changed the genre, and it's studied in the realm beyond basic Pop culture. I never said it wasn't adult enough, and the underwear thing was clearly in jest.. but enjoy debunking points I didn't make .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I never said it wasn't adult enough, and the underwear thing was clearly in jest.. but enjoy debunking points I didn't make .. Because you don't know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 And you'd be wrong. Because you don't know what you're talking about. IF I STATE MY OPINION MOST FORCEDULLY IT MEANS IM RIGHT!!111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 IF I STATE MY OPINION MOST FORCEDULLY IT MEANS IM RIGHT!!111 Not when you don't know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Not when you don't know what you're talking about. I'm the first and only naysayer in what had formerly been a universally held position by those in the know, which for the purposes of this topic is anyone that agrees with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Homie, If you don't like it why not go to another thread and discuss things you like? Please let me have this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm the first and only naysayer in what had formerly been a universally held position by those in the know, which for the purposes of this topic is anyone that agrees with you No. Just you. The guy who voluntarily gives up grammar doesn't get to dictate what is to the literates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 No. Just you. The guy who voluntarily gives up grammar doesn't get to dictate what is to the literates. Shhh... he thinks he's speaking "the people's language". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 The Joker beats Robin to death with a crowbar and intentionally paralyzes Barbara Gordon. Fun! the joker .., lol, exactly. Good to see CTM brushing up a bit here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Can't wait for season two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Shhh... he thinks he's speaking "the people's language". ******* filthy hippies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 No. Just you. The guy who voluntarily gives up grammar doesn't get to dictate what is to the literates. but the fanboy with clear emotional attachment to the material at question gets to pretend he's objective.. good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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