chirorob Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 By the way Rivers never had a defense behind him like the one we assemble this off season getting him would be very scary and have the league on notice. When they were 14-2 they had a great team. Then some moron picked off Tom Brady, and fumbled it back to the Pats. And Marty got fired, and it went down hill. Side note, I have treated guys who were on that team, they loved Marty and thought it was total BS he was fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 What is the franchise for a QB? Then, it goes up 20% the next year. What if he says, "Screw you, I won't sign it until a week before the season starts? " He has some leverage. OK Nostradamus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 OK Nostradamus. I'm not saying it can't be done. I am saying he has some leverage. Also, as was stated, if he doens't want to go 60 miles north to LA, why would he want to come to NY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Gato here is your other dream scenario.... http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Gato here is your other dream scenario.... http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php I'd puke if we took Dupree over Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'd puke if we took Dupree over Cooper. Beats taking Fowler over Dupree or Cooper. You'd get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Beats taking Fowler over Dupree or Cooper. You'd get over it. Not uh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 The Chargers are conducting a private workout in Eugene with Oregon QB Marcus Mariota Tuesday.Perhaps HC Mike McCoy, OC Rich Reich, QBs coach Nick Sirianni and a bunch of front office members are just doing their due diligence. Or maybe the trade rumors flying around Philip Rivers and the Chargers have some legs. The narrative states that Rivers doesn't want to move to Los Angeles and the Titans, holding the No. 2 overall pick, want a proven veteran to stabilize their quarterback situation. "Many close to the situation believe the Chargers head to Oregon while considering the notion of a draft-day trade," says the Union-Tribune San Diego. Any potential deal hinges on Mariota falling to No. 2, as San Diego is reportedly not interested in Florida State QB Jameis Winston.Source: Union-Tribune San Diego Apr 14 - 8:34 AM http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2015/apr/13/chargers-marcus-mariota-philip-rivers-draft/ What was first scheduled for Wednesday will now happen sooner. The Chargers are set to work out Marcus Mariota. Team brass, including coach Mike McCoy, offensive coordinator Frank Reich, quarterbacks coach Nick Sirianni and front-office members, flew Monday afternoon from San Diego, bound for Eugene, Ore., sources said. The group planned to have dinner with Mariota Monday before working out the former Oregon quarterback and Heisman Award winner Tuesday. There is due diligence before the draft. Then, there is this. Mariota is projected to be taken as early as the first or second pick on April 30 during the first round. The Chargers have the No. 17 choice. It would be highly unlikely for a camp to allow its client to work out for a team that far back without a strong sense a trade up is a real possibility. The sense around the league, indeed, is that it is. Quarterback Philip Rivers, 33, is under contract one more year. He has expressed a desire to play out his deal while the possibility of franchise relocation to Los Angeles looms. The Titans own the No. 2 pick. Ken Whisenhunt, their head coach, was the Chargers' offensive coordinator in 2013. Offensive coordinator Jason Michael was on the Chargers' staff, too. Nashville also is close to home for Rivers, an Alabama native. What comes of this Eugene trip could have a strong say in what sort of push, if any, the Chargers ultimately make for Mariota. But many close to the situation believe the Chargers head to Oregon while considering the notion of a draft-day trade. The conversation over what happens when the Titans are on the clock may prove moot if the Buccaneers select Mariota first overall. San Diego is not believed to have the same level of interest in Jameis Winston, the other top-ranked quarterback in the draft. Mariota trained for the NFL Scouting Combine in Carlsbad, just north of San Diego. Rivers, coincidentally, worked with him a couple days a week, mentoring him in the film room and through on-field workouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'm not saying it can't be done. I am saying he has some leverage. Also, as was stated, if he doens't want to go 60 miles north to LA, why would he want to come to NY? The drought baby. We have the best tap water in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 If Rivers gets traded to the team at 5 to grab Mariota fml and **** the dolphins for letting geno play good against them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Beats taking Fowler over Dupree or Cooper. You'd get over it. If it makes you feel better, I've changed my mind. I'm now in favor of trading for Rivers. Probably started changing my mind during these types of discussions...realizing how big a crap shoot it all is and the value of a top 10 QB. Especially with the Jets luck in the draft, particularly with the QB. **** it, send them picks galore. Get him for his last 4-5 years. See if you can win it with the nucleus in place and some picks. Which will be limited. So it will put a ton of pressure on Big Mac to draft well. Its just all reminding me of the trader Mike days...but **** it. I hate Rivers but dudes good and thats cool But none of this will happen because its the Jets. Still think Fowler > Dupree but would be happy with either. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 If Cooper were sitting there at 6 with both QB's off the board, anyone think we'd be willing to trade down with the Dolphins? Doing a draft day deal with a division rival is pretty rare but if there's anyone who could pull it off it'd be Tannenbaum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 rivers is a country boy who wants no part of NY. It would be a comically bad fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 rivers is a country boy who wants no part of NY. It would be a comically bad fit.Jets need QB and Rivers is a great one. Fantastic fit The personality stuff is nonsense in that it doesn't supersede danged foozeball hurlin abilities. All he has to do is feed the press stuff from QB cliches 101. Worst we'd get is some sh*t talking at Brady for being a pretty boy and some religion stuff we're free to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 rivers is a country boy who wants no part of NY. It would be a comically bad fit. Yep too bad the Panthers have Cam he would have loved to play back in the South.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Rivers goes to Tennessee, then San Diego trades up with the jets to get Mariota. Jets get 1-17, 2-37, 2-48 (2-33 is their own) Bud Dupree, Dorial Green Beckham, Jay Ajayi, Jake Fisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Lol you're not getting Dupree with 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Lol you're not getting Dupree with 17. It could happen. Houston went in the third round. Basically same prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 WHAT DID RIVERS EVER WIN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 INT's can be over rated particularly when looking at a single season, you are looking at what happened on a very small percent of his passes, and ignoring the much larger #, that he completely 66% of them. It's like Sanchez in 2010, cut his int total and things were looking up? No, he just had an inordinate amount of dropped INT's that year. (not saying that Rivers had an abnormally low total this year, haven't see the stats) For his career, Rivers he is tied for the 18th best INT % of all time.. I wouldn't worry about INTs Came across it http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2015/2014-adjusted-interceptions Rivers adj int are lower then 9 other players, his rate is the same as Peyton Manning for 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Sssssssssstiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiillllllllllllll the best draft day move possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Rivers is overrated and a complete Dbag. I'd hate having to root for his punk ass. The guy is not a winner. He road the coattails of LT when he was dominating the league. Check the guy's record out when LT wasnt scoring 20 times a year. No thanks. I'm definitely not trading multiple picks and Mo Wilk? HELL NO!!! Not a winner? are you kidding me, Rivers makes us playoff team by just lacing up. HOw far we go I dont know but he gets us in the dance and makes the whole team better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I just can't believe the Chargers would trade Rivers. It is so hard to develop a QB. He's like a 5 time pro bowler. What would they be improving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Came across it http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2015/2014-adjusted-interceptions Rivers adj int are lower then 9 other players, his rate is the same as Peyton Manning for 2014 That was another good thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Not a winner? are you kidding me, Rivers makes us playoff team by just lacing up. HOw far we go I dont know but he gets us in the dance and makes the whole team better. I've changed my on the subject and would take Rivers but what has he won? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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