flgreen Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Jets have edge if they decide to join Marcus Mariota sweepstakes 8h Rich Cimini, ESPN New York Jets reporter No fewer than seven teams have been mentioned as possible trading partners with the Tennessee Titans, who may be looking to deal out of the No. 2 spot in the draft. There's no way of knowing if all seven are genuinely interested in moving up -- chances are, it's only two or three -- but that's enough for a bidding war. Presumably, the target would be quarterback Marcus Mariota. And the New York Jets could have the inside track for the No. 2 pick -- if they decide to go for it. If the Jets want to trade up to take Marcus Mariota, they could offer one of the most attractive packages of picks. AP Photo/Ryan KangHere's why: The Jets own the No. 6 pick, which undoubtedly would be part of any trade package. Many experts believe there are only six to eight elite players in the draft, so the Titans, who have zero star power on their roster, might be hesitant to drop below the sixth pick. The other teams linked to the No. 2 pick/Mariota are picking below the Jets. On paper, the quarterback-needy Cleveland Browns, who have the 12th and 19th picks, appear to be the team with the most ammunition for a trade up. Thing is, would the Titans really want to drop from No. 2 to No. 12? That would take them out of the blue-chip neighborhood. This is why Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan, in his most recent public comments, was talking up the No. 6 position, saying: "It's a very good spot to be in. It does allow us the potential to move up in the draft because we're not very far from the first pick." Or the second, obviously. Clearly, the Jets would have to give up more than the No. 6 pick to move up four spots. According to the draft-pick value chart, the No. 2 pick is worth 2,600 points. The Jets' top picks are No. 6 and No. 37 picks, which add up to only 2,130 points. They'd probably have to offer a package that includes their 2016 first-round pick, which means you're talking about a serious investment. Remember, the Washington Redskins traded three first-round picks to make the same jump in 2012 for Robert Griffin III. Frankly, I think it would be a mistake. The Browns could offer 2,545 points if they pony up No. 12, No. 19 and No. 43, but the value chart is a generic guide -- it doesn't change by year. No two drafts are alike, so the quality of the 12th pick in one draft might be deemed weaker than in another. The other teams interested in Mariota are thought to be the Chicago Bears (No. 7 and No. 39), St. Louis Rams (10 and 41), New Orleans Saints (13, 31 and 44), San Diego Chargers (17 and 48) and Philadelphia Eagles (20 and 52). I listed only first- and second-round picks because it would be unwieldy to list them all. You get the point. If the Chargers decide to include Philip Rivers in a deal, which would be insanity, they become the favorite. Publicly, they've said they have no interest in trading their franchise quarterback, but the rumors persist. To repeat: We don't know if the Jets are interested in trading up for Mariota, but they haven't ruled out the idea of a move-up. Honestly, there's no guarantee they'd take him if he fell to No. 6. The point of this exercise is to show that, if they decide to make a move, they'd be in primo position to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 if they decide to go for it ... and since Cimini has no idea what the organization is actually keyed in to, his guess is as good as Ira's from Staten Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 ... and since Cimini has no idea what the organization is actually keyed in to, his guess is as good as Ira's from Staten Island. I don't think that his having any inside info on their intentions was the point of the article. Seemed like he was just saying that IF there was more then one team interested, and the Jets were one of them, they are in a better then average position to get it done. GO RANGERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I like bagels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I don't think that his having any inside info on their intentions was the point of the article. Seemed like he was just saying that IF there was more then one team interested, and the Jets were one of them, they are in a better then average position to get it done. GO RANGERS Yes, I'm aware. I'm making sure the hoard interprets it that way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Jmo I don't see the Jets going way up to number 2 for Mariotta. The cost would be too great. I think Jets might be interesting if he drops a couple more spots.( than they might be interested as the compensation won't be as much. if Marriotta falls to the Raiders , and the defensive player they like isn't there , I could see them willing to take both Browns picks, for the fourth pick in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'll stop following this team if they trade a pair of firsts to move up for Mariota. Seriously ill quit on the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Whatever the move is our new regime wants to make, I just hope they have the balls to make it. If it's trading two number 1's for Winston or Mariota then get it done. Unlike last season when Idzik was trying to get Marquise Lee and couldn't pull it off even though we had an abundance of picks and trades were being made all over the damn place. I'm happy we didn't get Lee but the point I'm making is that if we really like someone I hope they aren't afraid (or too stupid) to get it done. That being said, I would really love to get Winston or Mariota in the draft or watch our guys pull off a trade for Rivers, Brees, Cutler or the like. Getting a real QB would be really really nice and good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'll stop following this team if they trade a pair of firsts to move up for Mariota. Seriously ill quit on the spot. no you won't. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'll stop following this team if they trade a pair of firsts to move up for Mariota. Seriously ill quit on the spot. I won't quit, but I share your sentiment entirely. Neither of the top QB prospects are worth the risk of paying through the nose and mortgaging the future to move up. Both have plenty of warts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 to move up to @ 2 spot ...Titans get a swap of our #1 pick ( #6) and 2 two's - this year's #2 and next year's #2 - that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Virtually zero chance that a rookie GM makes a move like this. It would be career-defining. I think that there's a much better chance that Maccagnan makes a super-conservative pick like Scherrf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Virtually zero chance that a rookie GM makes a move like this. It would be career-defining. I think that there's a much better chance that Maccagnan makes a super-conservative pick like Scherrf. yea ok that's why he spent like 40 million on free agents - he's conservative - yea ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 yea ok that's why he spent like 40 million on free agents - he's conservative - yea ok Hmm. I didn't say Maccagnan was a conservative GM. I said I think there's a better chance that with his first ever draft pick, he'd make a conservative pick like Scherff as opposed to trading our 2015 1st and 2nd, along with our 2016 1st, to move up for Mariotta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stoicsentry Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'm not even sure that I would draft Mariota at 6, let alone trade a package of picks to draft him at 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I just think he's got something up his sleeve. All that money spent on veteran free agents. For what? To pin your hopes on a team led by a schmuk like Geno. It just doesn't make sense. Regardless, this will be Geno's last year in green and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 here's to your posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 no you won't. lol No way man. If we trade a pair of firsts for that guy im done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'm not even sure that I would draft Mariota at 6, let alone trade a package of picks to draft him at 2. I would definitely take him at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I don't think he moves up for Mariota. But I think he takes him at 6 if he's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'm not even sure that I would draft Mariota at 6, let alone trade a package of picks to draft him at 2. ^^^This.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Am I the only one who thinks Tennessee would be nuts to trade out of the #2 pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Enough teams are QB needy that tells me Maroita will not be there at 6- in no way would I try to move up to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'm not even sure that I would draft Mariota at 6, let alone trade a package of picks to draft him at 2. I would take him at 6 and sit him for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I really don't understand Cimini. I actually like the talent in this years draft. I prefer to trade back and acquire more picks in the middle of the 1st round to possibly pick Parker, Gurley, Gordan. Mac always said the draft is talent based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 If they trade away next years #1 then figure out how to keep this year's #2. There is great value in round 2 and we pick high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Jmo I don't see the Jets going way up to number 2 for Mariotta. The cost would be too great. I think Jets might be interesting if he drops a couple more spots.( than they might be interested as the compensation won't be as much. if Marriotta falls to the Raiders , and the defensive player they like isn't there , I could see them willing to take both Browns picks, for the fourth pick in the draft. I could see the Titans passing on Mariota is the Rivers trade falls through which would leave only the Redskins to worry about and I do think Jay Gruden would take Mariota. That means the Jets must send the number six pick and Mohammad Wilkerson to Oakland for the number four. Wilk is going to be a Revis like pain in the a$$ over this contract extension and the Jets have plenty of depth on the d-line. I think that is how it will get done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 ... and since Cimini has no idea what the organization is actually keyed in to, his guess is as good as Ira's from Staten Island. I'd go to war with Ira every day of the week over Cimini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I could see the Titans passing on Mariota is the Rivers trade falls through which would leave only the Redskins to worry about and I do think Jay Gruden would take Mariota. That means the Jets must send the number six pick and Mohammad Wilkerson to Oakland for the number four. Wilk is going to be a Revis like pain in the a$$ over this contract extension and the Jets have plenty of depth on the d-line. I think that is how it will get done. They should do this in a second. Trading a D lineman for a Franchise QB is a no brainer. As I have said before, everything hinges on the Jets scouts and GM thinking a QB will be a franchise QB. I, nor anyone that posts on this board have any idea who will and who wont be a successful draft pick. I will trust the professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 They should do this in a second. Trading a D lineman for a Franchise QB is a no brainer. As I have said before, everything hinges on the Jets scouts and GM thinking a QB will be a franchise QB. I, nor anyone that posts on this board have any idea who will and who wont be a successful draft pick. I will trust the professionals. Joe....we ARE the professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'd rather see us move down and receive a 2016 1st rd pick than mortgage next yr's pick to move up. In my mind the only way to move up is to package 6, 37, and players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 They should do this in a second. Trading a D lineman for a Franchise QB is a no brainer. As I have said before, everything hinges on the Jets scouts and GM thinking a QB will be a franchise QB. I, nor anyone that posts on this board have any idea who will and who wont be a successful draft pick. I will trust the professionals. Why in the world would you trust the people who know what they are doing when you can trust the folks here who are wrong 75% of the time ☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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