SouthernJet Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Solid conundrum. Rivers w/our Defense gives us legit shot at more than 9 Ws, actually enough Ws to get Home Field possibly. Is Mariota next Johnny Unita? Who the hell knows. We would have Rivers for 2-3 years I assume and we could still draft a QB in rounds 3 thru 6 if we have a hidden gem we think has Top 10-15 material in him. Let him learn under nutso Rivers. I assume our #6 gets us Rivers and maybe another SD pick somewhere in draft. remember, we inherit his cap# and age. What is fair to get plus Rivers? A #2, 3, 4? I dont know.. Bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Here's what would happen in that scenario: 1. The Jets would select Mariota. 2. The Eagles would trade Sam Bradford to the Browns for Pick #19. 3. The Eagles would give the Jets picks #19, #20, a 2015 third round pick, and their 2016 first rounder in exchange for Mariota. 4. The Jets will draft Andrus Peat and Shane Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I thought Rivers is a FA after this year? Are you talking about tagging him which carries a vicious cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 I thought Rivers is a FA after this year? Are you talking about tagging him which carries a vicious cap hit. that would be issue. u r right,, new contract or take hit,, dont know to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Here's what would happen in that scenario: 1. The Jets would select Mariota. 2. The Eagles would trade Sam Bradford to the Browns for Pick #19. 3. The Eagles would give the Jets picks #19, #20, a 2015 third round pick, and their 2016 first rounder in exchange for Mariota. 4. The Jets will draft Andrus Peat and Shane Ray. Shane Ray? The defensive lineman, Shane Ray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I thought Rivers is a FA after this year? Are you talking about tagging him which carries a vicious cap hit. Even outside the cap, I wouldnt even know how we'd pay him this year. Furthermore, I dont even know how we'll give him to play for us in NY when he doesnt even want to play 15 mins away from San Diego over there in Los Angeles. We're California dreamin' right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Id rather take Mariota ourselves.. But its an interesting debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 NO. Rivers is not a QB that will play well into his mid and late thirties. Unlike many fans here I want to see sustained success, not a year year all in run for the SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Without thinking twice about it, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Shane Ray? The defensive lineman, Shane Ray? The Jets seem to like him and he'd be the best available pass rusher at that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Not even a debate...hell yes you take him. Never gonna happen though, were not that fortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 The Jets seem to like him and he'd be the best available pass rusher at that spot. but he's a lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'd roll the dice with Mariotta over a short term commitment to a veteran. I want the Jets to finally have a franchise QB that they can call their own for 10+ years. Maybe Mariotta would be it, maybe not. Again, I'd roll the dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Rivers might have a nervous breakdown playing in NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Eh. Rivers ends like Favre. Dude's a southern boy who doesn't want anything to do with big city life. The reason he's even on the table is because he doesn't want to live in LA. You're telling me he'd be cool with NY? It's not worth the capital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoingToMyGraveGreen Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Here's what would happen in that scenario: 1. The Jets would select Mariota. 2. The Eagles would trade Sam Bradford to the Browns for Pick #19. 3. The Eagles would give the Jets picks #19, #20, a 2015 third round pick, and their 2016 first rounder in exchange for Mariota. 4. The Jets will draft Andrus Peat and Shane Ray. I would be deliriously happy if this happened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Solid conundrum. Rivers w/our Defense gives us legit shot at more than 9 Ws, actually enough Ws to get Home Field possibly. Is Mariota next Johnny Unita? Who the hell knows. We would have Rivers for 2-3 years I assume and we could still draft a QB in rounds 3 thru 6 if we have a hidden gem we think has Top 10-15 material in him. Let him learn under nutso Rivers. I assume our #6 gets us Rivers and maybe another SD pick somewhere in draft. remember, we inherit his cap# and age. What is fair to get plus Rivers? A #2, 3, 4? I dont know.. Bit? It would have to be a conditional pick. We give up the 6th n take their 2nd this yr. That's the non conditional part of the trade of course. if Rivers is a one year rental, we get a 4th round pick. If he signs an "extension" before hitting FA, we SEND a 4th to Chargers next year to compensate for the long term value. This seems to be tilted in Jets favor. Why should the Chargers do this? Because we are essentially trading away Mariotta on a team friendly rookie deal to take over Rivers n a 2nd. They'll lose Rivers next year regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Here's what would happen in that scenario: 1. The Jets would select Mariota. 2. The Eagles would trade Sam Bradford to the Browns for Pick #19. 3. The Eagles would give the Jets picks #19, #20, a 2015 third round pick, and their 2016 first rounder in exchange for Mariota. 4. The Jets will draft Andrus Peat and Shane Ray. bradford is worth a 1st round pick ? Bradford, 27, missed the entire 2014 season after tearing his left ACL for the second straight season weird I like peat and ray tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 bradford is worth a 1st round pick ? Bradford, 27, missed the entire 2014 season after tearing his left ACL for the second straight season weird I like peat and ray tho The Browns offered 19 to the Rams for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 The Jets seem to like him and he'd be the best available pass rusher at that spot. I think Ray would be gone there personally, but the debate about who the Jets draft with both those picks should have nothing to do about the idea of what you stating could happen, and I like the idea of giving McCags, and Bowles 19, and 20, and 2 1st rounders next year to set this team up with their stamp for the near future. Personally I believe the Jets would probably take one of the RB's if they were on the board in your scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 The Browns offered 19 to the Rams for him. I would also take Bradford, the 20th pick, 3rd rounder, and a conditional high draft pick next season from the Eagles, on condition the better Bradford does the worse the pick the Jets would receive from Philly, having crazy swings in conditions from as high as a 2nd to as low as a 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 The Browns offered 19 to the Rams for him. lol browns I would have him off my radar as a medical flag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandal26 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 The only way I would do this would be if we got a assurances from Rivers that he will sign a two-year extension. Since there would be no way to get that in the 10 minutes we have to make our pick, it wouldn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeJet22 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'd take Mariota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Healthy Bradford>Rivers IMO if you include age, system, and douchebag factor. But I do get the whole injury thing is extremely serious, but I feel Bradford could become the next Brees, but even better if he could somehow just stay healthy for 5-10 years, even more so if he stays on with a offensive mind like Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I select and keep Mariota unless Rivers signs a 4-6 year cap friendly deal with the Jets I pass on a 1 year rental of Rivers (on his current contract) unless the Jets get a first from SD next year that can be used to trade up for the franchise and yes I take 3 firsts from Philly = bwahahhaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Here's what would happen in that scenario: 1. The Jets would select Mariota. 2. The Eagles would trade Sam Bradford to the Browns for Pick #19. 3. The Eagles would give the Jets picks #19, #20, a 2015 third round pick, and their 2016 first rounder in exchange for Mariota. 4. The Jets will draft Andrus Peat and Shane Ray. One other thing I'd do in this deal is make Cleveland throw in Johnny Football. I know he's a wreck, but if he gets his head on straight he's worth a free look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Eh. Rivers ends like Favre. Dude's a southern boy who doesn't want anything to do with big city life. The reason he's even on the table is because he doesn't want to live in LA. You're telling me he'd be cool with NY? It's not worth the capital. That area of NJ isn't NYC... unless it's the media that bothers him, it's not city living Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Rivers makes us SB contenders, so you pull the trigger and dance a jig w Maccagnan ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papz187 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 As long as Rivers is willing to sign an extension I'd trade #6 for him, and if we can get a 2nd as well all the better. We have a legit defense from the line to the secondary, weapons to throw to on offense and have been able to run the ball with Ivory. If we can get the established top 10 QB it just might be enough to truly challenge for the division and a SB. I say you take that chance UNLESS you're convinced Mariota is the answer. Can you imagine what Rex would be thinking (yeah, yeah, fvck Rex, who cares.....but still) if this scenario played out, that would basically be the perfect team in his eyes and he missed coaching it by one year lol he would probably curse Idzik's name til the day he dies Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Here's what would happen in that scenario: 1. The Jets would select Mariota. 2. The Eagles would trade Sam Bradford to the Browns for Pick #19. 3. The Eagles would give the Jets picks #19, #20, a 2015 third round pick, and their 2016 first rounder in exchange for Mariota. 4. The Jets will draft Andrus Peat and Shane Ray. From your mouth to God's ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I can't believe people would want bradford over rivers....a qb of rivers caliber doesn't come available at his age. Bradford is made of glass and trading for him and two mid round 1sts over Rivers is absolutely insane to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Our defense is super bowl capable. We are rivers away from being the strongest team the jets have had since 98. Maybe longer. Our dline is basically a cheap super unit but that window will close. Go get rivers and let's go for this sh*t this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I don't think Chargers would do it. But I am not sure we should or could do it do to Rivers contract situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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