Which draft would you choose?

[Paradis]

Thought about listing the 5 picks leading up to ours, but it doesn't matter. This is an exercise to see what matters most to you;

 
OPTION #1:

1 - Fowler (OLB/DE)
2 - DJ Humphries (OT)
3 - T. Lockett (WR)
4 - D. Cobb (RB)
7 - T. Plummer (ILB)  & T. Smith (CB)

OPTION #2:

1 - Cooper (WR)
2 - E. Harold (OLB)
3 - B. Petty (QB)
4 - T. Jones (ILB)
7 - T. Williams (NT) & T. Rawls (RB)

OPTION #3:

1 - M. Mariota (QB)
2 - Du. Johnson (RB)
3 - P. Dawson (ILB)
4 - Z. Smith (OLB)
7 - C. Worth (WR) & T. Williams (NT)


OPTION #4

1 - S. Ray (DE/OLB)
2 - DGB (WR)
3 - Da. Johnson (RB)
4 - B. Bridge (QB). 
7 - B. McClain (CB) & J. Brown (OT)

[dbatesman]

I didn't even bother looking past the first-rounders, and 2 is still the only sane option.

[JohnJ]

I didn't even bother looking past the first-rounders, and 2 is still the only sane option.

Fowler and Mariota are insane picks?

[dbatesman]

Fowler and Mariota are insane picks?

Yes and kinda.

[JohnJ]

Yes and kinda.

Wouldn't surprise me if they're both off the board when we pick, regrettably.

[SenorGato]

Wouldn't surprise me if they're both off the board when we pick, regrettably.

For those other teams!

[drdetroit]

4 and 2 wouldn't force me to kick my tv. 1 and 3 and I'll be at wal-mart Sunday night looking for a new 48" LCD

[T0mShane]

#1 is a tremendous haul.

[32EBoozer]

I went Option #1

 

You get a starting OLB who's big enough to set the edge

 

A future replacement for D'Brick ... as a matter of fact that is who he gets compared to.

 

An absolute speed demon to take the top off a defense(DJax type player)

 

Cobb will be an adequate back. Punishing 1 cut runner who lacks breakaway speed. This would be the pick I would change to make this a great draft.

[32EBoozer]

#1 is a tremendous haul.

Yeah... I don't get the Fowler hate?!

 

This would be a "Tremendous" Draft. 3 starters.

[32EBoozer]

Option #3 scenario:

 

Marriota sits for 2 years,

We are set at ILB for the next few seasons, I think Dawson plays ST and substitution.

Z. Smith is NOT an OLB.... he's more a DT like Mo Wilkerson.

The only pick I like is Duke J.

[Clementi49]

I thought with all of these player signings it meant the Jets could pick anyone really? The only thing that should make anyone upset is either a DL or CB. Other than those two positions, no one can really be too upset with these years draft.

[T0mShane]

Yeah... I don't get the Fowler hate?!

This would be a "Tremendous" Draft. 3 starters.

Fowler's explosion scores (those historically evident in the better pass rushers) were not good at all. It doesn't mean he won't get to the QB, but you probably should look elsewhere if you're trying to draft the next Von Miller. I like him, though. I think he's an ass-kicker.

[32EBoozer]

Fowler's explosion scores (those historically evident in the better pass rushers) were not good at all. It doesn't mean he won't get to the QB, but you probably should look elsewhere if you're trying to draft the next Von Miller. I like him, though. I think he's an ass-kicker.

I'd take this guy in a minute! He is the epitome of a disruptive force. Big upside!

 

Overview

First-team All-SEC and Walter Camp second-team selection in 2014. Led the Gators with 15 tackles for loss and 17 quarterback hurries and had 8.5 sacks. Had at least one tackle for loss in all but one game in 2014. Was voted team and defensive MVP and was a captain for his final season. Was second-team All-SEC as a sophomore in 2013. Played in 37 career games, with 25 starts. Had five forced fumbles in his career and 34 tackles for loss. Was a five-star recruit from Lakewood High School in Florida and competed in the 2012 Under Armour All-America game.

 

Analysis

Strengths Well-built, athletic frame with very long arms. Has transformed body since coming in, losing 25 pounds while adding substantial explosiveness in space. Versatile -- was moved around field for Gators. Can rush from two- or three-point stance. Good first-step quickness. Uses improving spin move to counter when rush stalls high-side. Can dip and turn corner against upright tackles. Slants inside with devastating quickness. Well-timed arm over to whip lungers. Rangy in pursuit. Has hips and feet to change direction seamlessly. Can chase play-side running back to sideline and terminate with very little angle. Length to stifle cut blocks. Strong hands and arm extension to set edge and maintain.

 

Weaknesses Bounced all over the field. Raw pass rusher. Still learning nuances of the position. Needs more coordination between hands and feet. Pass-rush approach lacks efficiency and includes too much wasted motion. Expected "speed-to-power" conversion inconsistent on tape. Tackles with length can lock him out and run him over the top. Average lower-body strength with limited window to fend off power. Limited recovery talent when beaten early in snap. Inconsistency against downhill running game is a concern.

 

Draft Projection Round 1 (top 10)

 

Sources Tell Us "He's had to play at different weights and different spots on the field, and I think he's finally understanding how to use his athleticism to dominate a game. He will be way better in the pros than what he is now." -- AFC East college director of scouting

 

NFL Comparison Khalil Mack

 

Bottom Line

Strong-side 3-4 outside linebacker with the physical traits and above-average potential to set the edge or spill runs wide to an early demise. Fowler is a competitive pass rusher getting by on athleticism and inside moves right now, but has a Pro Bowl ceiling with double-digit sack potential if he takes coaching and addresses his rush technique.

[Miss Lonelyhearts]

None of these. I honestly can't see any scenario where any of this would be acceptable.

[JETSfan4life_1]

option 2 you have to pick cooper if he is there.  i know we just go Marshall but he is not the long term answer.  we have to groom a stud wide out for the long haul.  Mariota is not gonna do anything for the JETS right now, GENO is better than Mariota right now and that is coming from a fan who things GENO is not the answer.  Shane Ray no we have Coples put him in his true position he will succeed. 

[T0mShane]

FWIW, the draft I most commonly end up with when I do that First-pick.com thing is

1.6: Cooper or Beasley or Fowler or Mariota (depending on who's left, in order)

2.5: Gurley or Gordon or Humphries

3.6: Kikaha or David Johnson

4.5: Petty or Lockett or Havenstein or Koyack

[JustInFudge]

I'd take the Gator heavy draft

 

I like start of option 2 but really just dont think highly of Petty.

[JustInFudge]

FWIW, the draft I most commonly end up with when I do that First-pick.com thing is

1.6: Cooper or Beasley or Fowler or Mariota (depending on who's left, in order)

2.5: Gurley or Gordon or Humphries

3.6: Kikaha or David Johnson

4.5: Petty or Lockett or Havenstein or Koyack

 

Any concerns with Melvin Gordon because of the recent trends with Wisconsin RB's being absolute busts in the NFL after tearing up the NCAA?

[T0mShane]

Any concerns with Melvin Gordon because of the recent trends with Wisconsin RB's being absolute busts in the NFL after tearing up the NCAA?

Not really.

[Matt39]

I'm glad we still have another 10 days of this.

[HessStation]

Fowler's explosion scores (those historically evident in the better pass rushers) were not good at all. It doesn't mean he won't get to the QB, but you probably should look elsewhere if you're trying to draft the next Von Miller. I like him, though. I think he's an ass-kicker.

Agreed, Fowler's probably never a double digit sack guy but I honestly can't see him not being a distruptive, productive force for whatever team he plays for. The big sack guy is probably Beasley IMO. And I love Dupree.

But Fowler's the best football player...but also least explosive out of the top guys.

[HessStation]

Also, I'm taking Mariota if he's there.

[CanadaSteve]

Option 1 or Option 4 with the IDEAL draft being a mix of the two!

[32EBoozer]

Agreed, Fowler's probably never a double digit sack guy but I honestly can't see him not being a distruptive, productive force for whatever team he plays for. The big sack guy is probably Beasley IMO. And I love Dupree.

But Fowler's the best football player...but also least explosive out of the top guys.

Parcell's liked "football players" so do I.

Explosion numbers only matter in the bedroom.   

[Shadetree]

Fowler's explosion scores (those historically evident in the better pass rushers) were not good at all. It doesn't mean he won't get to the QB, but you probably should look elsewhere if you're trying to draft the next Von Miller. I like him, though. I think he's an ass-kicker.

I really like fowler but this concerns me a bit.

Can someone find OLBs in the NFL that had similarly bad scores but had great careers?

How bout similarly bad scores, picked very high in first round, and became a bust?

I'm curious to see a comparison.

I went with #2 despite my man-crush in fowler. The more u watch cooper, the more I say, "Holt sh*t, he never broke stride on that route." Like never-never.

And choice 2 fills my desire for an OLB with the Harold pick.

[T0mShane]

I really like fowler but this concerns me a bit.

Can someone find OLBs in the NFL that had similarly bad scores but had great careers?

How bout similarly bad scores, picked very high in first round, and became a bust?

I'm curious to see a comparison.

I went with #2 despite my man-crush in fowler. The more u watch cooper, the more I say, "Holt sh*t, he never broke stride on that route." Like never-never.

And choice 2 fills my desire for an OLB with the Harold pick.

http://mockdraftable.com/player/4914/

[derp]

To answer the OP, probably #2 because those first two picks are nice.

 

I don't think you draft an edge player at #6 overall because you think he's a good all around football player. That's important, but guys get drafted that high to get after the quarterback. If the Jets share the opinion of Fowler that it seems a lot of people in this thread have, I hope he's not available or they pass.

 

A large part of the reason that OLB is considered a need is that the Jets don't have a guy who can get to the quarterback consistently. If they're going to take a guy at #6, I'd hope they feel he can fill that void. All around edge players can be found later in the draft or in FA.

 

This edge class is confusing too. You've got semi-productive athletic guys all over the map (Fowler, Dupree, Harold), a hyper-productive undersized athlete who might be best as a Von Miller type 4-3 SLB (Beasley), an athletic guy who wasn't as productive as he should have been, is undersized, and likes weed (Gregory), and a productive guy who tested out as mediocre athletically (Ray). Then there's the gigantic likely 4-3 ends (Smith, Odighizuwa) and the hyper-productive guy who tested out as mediocre athletically and has health issues (Kikaha). I consistently find myself liking the guys expected to go later as options because I'll take a 19 sack guy with bum knees in the third or fourth round instead of someone who's a bit better athletically and healthier but slightly less productive in the first. Especially since the need isn't immediate.

 

As a side note, if NFL teams don't like Fowler's potential as a pass rusher I think he slides farther than most expect. And I still think Beasley is more likely to go to Jacksonville at #3 overall.

 

I'm excited to look like an ass in 10 days after being wrong about everything.

[Matt39]

http://mockdraftable.com/player/4914/

 

http://mockdraftable.com/player/4786/

 

[Paradis]

None of these. I honestly can't see any scenario where any of this would be acceptable.

Lol. I'm sorry, is that spotlight not focused enough on you this morning? Jump off a bridge, that should get u some attention.

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[Miss Lonelyhearts]

Parcell's liked "football players" so do I.

Explosion numbers only matter in the bedroom.

Right. It doesn't matter at all that first round edge rushers who flunk the athletic benchmarks bust three times as often as the ones who pass. People who take the sucker end of bets all think they're smart enough to lay that spot. Guess what.

[Shadetree]

http://mockdraftable.com/player/4914/

Thanks Tom.. Looks like a cool site

Can someone tell me why I like fowler again ? Cuz the comparisons on the link don't exactly scream "6 overall!"

Am I flip-flopping to Beasley? I'm close. Fowler starting to scare me. I'm gonna look at that link again tonight.

[bealeb319]

Honestly don't love any of them, I think Option 1 would be the best value for us, I almost like Option 2 but I truly despise Hundley. I think we could probably use a FS somewhere in the draft and see none in any option. I also wouldn't mind seeing an option where we take a RB in round 1 (I would be happy taking Gurley at 6 though I know many are strongly against that) for more accurate results for your poll maby it would have been better to post the positions and let people make their own assumptions on who we would get, I would go for the second one if it were Petty instead of Hundley.

[32EBoozer]

To answer the OP, probably #2 because those first two picks are nice.

 

I don't think you draft an edge player at #6 overall because you think he's a good all around football player. That's important, but guys get drafted that high to get after the quarterback. If the Jets share the opinion of Fowler that it seems a lot of people in this thread have, I hope he's not available or they pass.

 

A large part of the reason that OLB is considered a need is that the Jets don't have a guy who can get to the quarterback consistently. If they're going to take a guy at #6, I'd hope they feel he can fill that void. All around edge players can be found later in the draft or in FA.

 

This edge class is confusing too. You've got semi-productive athletic guys all over the map (Fowler, Dupree, Harold), a hyper-productive undersized athlete who might be best as a Von Miller type 4-3 SLB (Beasley), an athletic guy who wasn't as productive as he should have been, is undersized, and likes weed (Gregory), and a productive guy who tested out as mediocre athletically (Ray). Then there's the gigantic likely 4-3 ends (Smith, Odighizuwa) and the hyper-productive guy who tested out as mediocre athletically and has health issues (Kikaha). I consistently find myself liking the guys expected to go later as options because I'll take a 19 sack guy with bum knees in the third or fourth round instead of someone who's a bit better athletically and healthier but slightly less productive in the first. Especially since the need isn't immediate.

 

As a side note, if NFL teams don't like Fowler's potential as a pass rusher I think he slides farther than most expect. And I still think Beasley is more likely to go to Jacksonville at #3 overall.

 

I'm excited to look like an ass in 10 days after being wrong about everything.

 I'm sorry, but these guys are the embodiment of production. You don't want them for the Jets?? That's cool, but don't take away from what these young men accomplished!

 

I'd take any of these guys, but at #6 I prefer Fowler (as does Mayock ) as the top edge rusher.

[bealeb319]

Honestly don't love any of them, I think Option 1 would be the best value for us, I almost like Option 2 but I truly despise Hundley. I think we could probably use a FS somewhere in the draft and see none in any option. I also wouldn't mind seeing an option where we take a RB in round 1 (I would be happy taking Gurley at 6 though I know many are strongly against that) for more accurate results for your poll maby it would have been better to post the positions and let people make their own assumptions on who we would get, I would go for the second one if it were Petty instead of Hundley.

Just realized it was Petty and not Hundley (don't know how I misread that) voted number 2.