Hardy suspended 10 games

[LockeJET]

Cowboys look stupid

[Gas2No99]

Cowboys look stupid

No they don't. Goodell looks like an @$$hole for doing this AFTER the cowboys sign him. Total bullsh*t and I'd protest that if I were the Cowboys. Buyer beware, but such crap after Dallas committed to him.

[papz187]

Damn....wasn't this guy suspended last year for like 15 games also, or was that team imposed?

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[LockeJET]

I hear ya but this was always a possibility for whoever signed him. I'm sure the Boys covered their ass in the writing of the contract but they still look bad here.

[JustInFudge]

Damn....wasn't this guy suspended last year for like 15 games also, or was that team imposed?

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Yep...so he's going to return to Football basically after a year in a half off.

 

And the Cowboys will be getting him just in time for the playoff push, fresh and probably ready to eat someone. 

[Matt39]

What week do we play Dallas?

[JetsFanInDenver]

After following this story it looks like one of false accusations gone wild. I am not a lawyer and i don't play one on TeeVee but he was essentially never convicted in the eye of the law.

 

The accusations were made by a socialite/gold digger and Greg Hardy was found guilty of being a guy with money.

 

But now he stands with his reputation tainted, losing his means of earning his living and taking HUGE financial hits.

 

This is classic overreaction from Goodell. Hardy needs to take NFL to court.

[Smashmouth]

everyone knew this guy was getting some kind of suspension it was unsure as to whether it would be 1 g 4 g or more ,,,no one screwed the cowboys here they screwed themselves by taking a chance on a thug POS. Im sure they are protected if they so choose to act . Thing is if the Cowboys are heading to the playoffs it will still be nice to have a fresh proven pass rusher who will just be coming into his own come playoff time. That is if he stops beating up on women

[Blackout]

he deserves this  - he is a true scumbag

 

 

for the first time ever I salute Goodell and co. for this 

[LockeJET]

we play them week 15

[Joe Jets fan]

After following this story it looks like one of false accusations gone wild. I am not a lawyer and i don't play one on TeeVee but he was essentially never convicted in the eye of the law.

 

The accusations were made by a socialite/gold digger and Greg Hardy was found guilty of being a guy with money.

 

But now he stands with his reputation tainted, losing his means of earning his living and taking HUGE financial hits.

 

This is classic overreaction from Goodell. Hardy needs to take NFL to court.

 

Dude, you are so wrong its scary.   Do you just make stuff up?

 

He was convicted at a bench trial, he then appealed to a jury trial.  Right as the trial was starting he paid off the victim with enough money that she refused to testify. 

 

He committed the crime.  Do you even read?  

[bgivs21]

everyone knew this guy was getting some kind of suspension it was unsure as to whether it would be 1 g 4 g or more ,,,no one screwed the cowboys here they screwed themselves by taking a chance on a thug POS. Im sure they are protected if they so choose to act . Thing is if the Cowboys are heading to the playoffs it will still be nice to have a fresh proven pass rusher who will just be coming into his own come playoff time. That is if he stops beating up on women

 

Haha Cowboys didn't screw themselves, they're completely covered in the contract they signed with Hardy. And like you said yourself, if the Cowboys are ready to make a playoff push/already looking like they are in, they are getting a top pass rusher. 

[ljr]

Figures Pats play them week 5 we play them week 15 lol

[Integrity28]

He's a scumbag. Now ? How about deflated footballs and cheating? Why is Goodell more involved in discipline that the law enforcement and legal system takes care of, why isn't he focusing on the game-related infractions?

[Joe Jets fan]

Try this

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/greg-hardy-the-nfls-next-nightmare-20150225

 

Earlier this month, domestic violence charges against NFL defensive end Greg Hardy were dismissed, after prosecutors claim his accuser essentially disappeared. It was an odd, anticlimactic ending to a story that made national headlines, and though the Pro Bowler's legal issues are behind him, he's not in the clear just yet: Hardy will still face judgment from the league. The season may be over, but it would seem the nightmare continues.

 

In essence, the NFL must decide how to punish Hardy, who was arrested May 13 and placed on the league's inactive roster in Week 2. A judge subsequently found him guilty of assaulting and threatening to kill former girlfriend Nicole Holder, though his attorneys appealed the decision. A new jury trial was set to begin February 9 until Holder became uncooperative (she reportedly received a civil settlement from Hardy), and the earlier conviction was vacated. Acting under the aegis of the new personal conduct policy, the NFL filed a legal motion to unseal evidence in the case, and will now make their own determination of what happened – and what the penalty against Hardy will be.

It will be the first test of the league's much-discussed conduct code, which was approved by owners in December and places disciplinary decisions in the hands of "a highly-qualified individual with a criminal justice background" (said individual has yet to be hired), so it stands to reason that the NFL will be looking to set a precedent. Given the public outcry that followed commissioner Roger Goodell's initial two-game suspension of Ray Rice, and all the public-relations nightmares that came after, they will not be lenient – yet this is certainly not a cut-and-dry case.

Because as clear things as seemed when Hardy was found guilty last July, the waters have only grown murkier since. There is the dismissal of all charges, the reported civil settlement and the initial decision of Mecklenburg District Judge Becky Thorne Tin, who noted that Hardy and Holder told wildly different versions of what happened in Hardy's Charlotte condominium on May 13. Now, the NFL must decide how much they believe Hardy, how much they believe Holder and how much they should change the course of Hardy's career – in yet another wrinkle, he's set to become an unrestricted free agent next month, and the competition for his services is expected to be fierce.

Regardless of his actual guilt, Hardy's association with a violent incident is enough to warrant a suspension, given the league's supposed deviation from a laissez-faire attitude regarding domestic violence. In other words, this is as much about the NFL's reputation as it his; act too weak, as they have for decades, and the league will be seen as an entity that hasn't learned anything from the Rice incident.

And despite all that, the NFL's decision will essentially come down to just two stories.

According to Holder, Hardy picked her up and slammed her into a bathtub, dragged her by her hair, pulled a necklace off her and choked her. Holder also said the 6-foot-4, 275-pound Hardy threw her on a futon that was covered in automatic weapons and let her know that the guns were loaded. In no uncertain terms, she said, Hardy threatened to kill her.

Holder's account of the incident, as well as eyewitness testimony that included one woman who took a picture of the gun-covered futon and another who heard Holder say, "What are you going to do, break my arm?" as the couple fought behind closed doors, was enough for Tin to find Hardy guilty of assault and communicating threats. He was sentenced to 18 months probation and a 60-day suspended jail sentence.

Not surprisingly, Hardy's recollection of the events is much different. He claimed Holder had thrown a punch at him, threatened to commit suicide and threw herself into the bathtub ("I don't fight," he said during testimony.) His attorney, Chris Fialko, painted the accuser as a jealous woman addicted to the fame that came with dating an NFL star. He pointed out that it was his client who had initially dialed 911 on May 13, after an intoxicated Holder refused to leave Hardy's apartment, and called witnesses to the stand that testified they saw her kick the door of Hardy's car after a dispute at a Charlotte entertainment complex a few days earlier.

There were also the unusual circumstances that surrounded the trial itself. In domestic-violence court, cases can often be argued and settled in a matter of minutes. According to The Charlotte Observer, Hardy's trial lasted 10 hours, with Tin pushing the case late into the night to avoid a backlog in her courtroom. It is plausible that given a full trial in front of a jury it could have been very difficult for 12 people to agree that Hardy was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

We'll never know, and now the NFL will decide the matter. Even though Hardy has been cleared of all charges, he is still in likely violation of the personal conduct policy, which states: "All persons associated with the NFL are required to avoid 'conduct detrimental to the integrity and public confidence in the National Football League.'

"It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful," the policy continues. "Persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime."

Does all of that constitute overreach on a massive scale, or real-world justice being applied to a pastime? Depends on whom you ask. But know that, in Hardy's case, the NFL will not put any weight into his paid leave last season (He earned over $13 million and played in one game) and they know this decision will be a statement – going into last season, a standard suspension under these circumstances would have normally been zero-to-two games. But domestic violence, or the threat of domestic violence, won't be tolerated anymore. The problem is, the "facts" in this case are few and far between, and we're no closer to unearthing the truth.

That's what a trial is supposed to do. Now, it's up to the NFL. Going by the letter of their law, Hardy failed to live up to the league's "standard of conduct," and he will be punished and it will cost him millions of dollars. But that's beside the point. The NFL will act, and they will act swiftly. The allegations alone are not something they can afford to dismiss. That's what got them in this mess in the first place.

 

[JustInFudge]

He's a scumbag. Now ? How about deflated footballs and cheating? Why is Goodell more involved in discipline that the law enforcement and legal system takes care of, why isn't he focusing on the game-related infractions?

 

Kraft's dick tastes really good. 

[JustInFudge]

Dude, you are so wrong its scary.   Do you just make stuff up?

 

He was convicted at a bench trial, he then appealed to a jury trial.  Right as the trial was starting he paid off the victim with enough money that she refused to testify. 

 

He committed the crime.  Do you even read?  

 

Denver is the ultimate contrarian.  He doesnt need the whole truth.  He just rolls with it.  I respect that. 

[JetsFanInDenver]

Dude, you are so wrong its scary.   Do you just make stuff up?

 

He was convicted at a bench trial, he then appealed to a jury trial.  Right as the trial was starting he paid off the victim with enough money that she refused to testify. 

 

He committed the crime.  Do you even read?  

 

I thought you put me on ignore.

 

Once he asked for the jury trial the bench trial judgement is vacated. So legally it's like it never existed.

 

If the "victim" was so hell bent on getting justice why did she settle for money.

 

And the system is so skewed that even innocent guys have to end up paying money. Kobe had to pay money as well even though the case never went to trial.

 

So sorry to upset your mainstream,  PC world, but the reality here looks likes it's different. Off course if you are guy you never get the benefit of the doubt.

[Miss Lonelyhearts]

Denver is the ultimate contrarian. He doesnt need the whole truth. He just rolls with it. I respect that.

He has a point. You can call a preliminary hearing a 'bench trial' if you want to, but if you have the right to a jury trial and haven't had one then it's not a real conviction. I saw on PFT that he's applying for expungement, which you can't generally do for DV stuff and violent felonies most places so it's definitely some sort of conviction lite.

[Dcat]

Yep...so he's going to return to Football basically after a year in a half off.

 

And the Cowboys will be getting him just in time for the playoff push, fresh and probably ready to eat someone. 

 

 

Oh, isn't that grand?  Just in time for their game against the Jets!

 

Actually 3-4 weeks before the Cowboys play the Jets.  Enough time for him to be in beast-mode shape.  

[section314]

Oh, isn't that grand?  Just in time for their game against the Jets!

 

Actually 3-4 weeks before the Cowboys play the Jets.  Enough time for him to be in beast-mode shape.  

 

Giacomini will eat his lunch

[JustInFudge]

He has a point. You can call a preliminary hearing a 'bench trial' if you want to, but if you have the right to a jury trial and haven't had one then it's not a real conviction. I saw on PFT that he's applying for expungement, which you can't generally do for DV stuff and violent felonies most places so it's definitely some sort of conviction lite.

Right. I actually agree with him that Hardy should take action against the NFL/Goodel. My post was directed at his comments regarding the situation. He acknowledged the lack of facts/evidence in the case and then used that to absolve Greg Hardy and incriminate the alleged victim. Nobody knows the truth but those two...hence me saying he doesn't need the whole truth.

[BRONX DUDE]

FU JERRY JONES THE COWGIRLS.  god forbid they would have some morals.

[SayNoToDMC]

Liberal witch hunt. The man paid for his crimes, he had to sit home all last year and watch football collecting 16 million he probably felt awful knowing he wasn't earning, that's also pre taxes and whatever he had to waste paying her off. I for one believe in our justice system and they found him innocent.

[JetsFanInDenver]

Right. I actually agree with him that Hardy should take action against the NFL/Goodel. My post was directed at his comments regarding the situation. He acknowledged the lack of facts/evidence in the case and then used that to absolve Greg Hardy and incriminate the alleged victim. Nobody knows the truth but those two...hence me saying he doesn't need the whole truth.

 

That's the problem. If you say anything against the preconceived, indocrinated notion you are attacked in every which way.

 

It's not like a woman never accused a man falsely in court.

[Miss Lonelyhearts]

That's the problem. If you say anything against the preconceived, indocrinated notion you are attacked in every which way.

It's not like a woman never accused a man falsely in court.

People seem to have this idea that fabrication happens a lot more often than it actually does. Even in cases where the possibility of financial motivation seems obvious.

[Larz]

nfl network reported jones figured it would be a 4 game suspension and now they may have to rethink their draft plans

 

lolololol

[JetsFanInDenver]

People seem to have this idea that fabrication happens a lot more often than it actually does. Even in cases where the possibility of financial motivation seems obvious.

 

It's like this. I am not an expert on how often fabrication happens BUT from what i have been told from people who are in this field it is happening a lot more often than it used to say two decades ago. So i will take their word for that.

 

In this case for me it just did not pass the smell test. Just my opinion. The more i read about it the more it looked like someone on a gold digging mission which turns out was successful.

[Larz]

It's like this. I am not an expert on how often fabrication happens BUT from what i have been told from people who are in this field it is happening a lot more often than it used to say two decades ago. So i will take their word for that.

 

In this case for me it just did not pass the smell test. Just my opinion. The more i read about it the more it looked like someone on a gold digging mission which turns out was successful.

 

did she kick her own ass like in liar liar ?

[Miss Lonelyhearts]

It's like this. I am not an expert on how often fabrication happens BUT from what i have been told from people who are in this field it is happening a lot more often than it used to say two decades ago. So i will take their word for that.

In this case for me it just did not pass the smell test. Just my opinion. The more i read about it the more it looked like someone on a gold digging mission which turns out was successful.

Your expert friends are retards. Sorry. The false report rate for index felonies has been 2% since forever.

[Joe Jets fan]

That's the problem. If you say anything against the preconceived, indocrinated notion you are attacked in every which way.

It's not like a woman never accused a man falsely in court.

No that happens all the time, just not in this case. He had a trial, not a hearing, a trial. Why he was found guilty. Do you know why? Because he did it. The girl did not make anything up. As for her wanting justice so bad, 99% of women would take a mil and go live there life. But you blame her when you don't know crap. Try not making up stuff all the time.

And btw I am an expert in the field.

[Blackout]

nfl network reported jones figured it would be a 4 game suspension and now they may have to rethink their draft plans

 

lolololol

 

good.  

[Blackout]

Figures Pats play them week 5 we play them week 15 lol

 

damn that sucks

[JetsFanInDenver]

Your expert friends are retards. Sorry. The false report rate for index felonies has been 2% since forever.

 

Even 1 false report is one too many, If say someday you happen to be at the business end of a false report than that measly 2% stat might not pale into insignificance.

[JetsFanInDenver]

No that happens all the time, just not in this case. He had a trial, not a hearing, a trial. Why he was found guilty. Do you know why? Because he did it. The girl did not make anything up. As for her wanting justice so bad, 99% of women would take a mil and go live there life. But you blame her when you don't know crap. Try not making up stuff all the time.

And btw I am an expert in the field.

 

Good...with experts like you who needs justice.