JohnnyLV Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000486422/article/hot-100-40-leonard-williams-top-prospect-in-2015-nfl-draft Brandt's Top players I think is always the most valuable rating of players, because he is first of all a tremendous evaluator of talent, but also because of his existing reputation with teams, and his work with the NFL to determine who goes in the draft, he is much more dialed into what the actual NFL GMs and scouts think about players so his rankings especially through the first and early second are very close to the value and position they have in the actual draft. Quite a lot of surprises, notably how the pass rushers are much lower than what we have seen before outside of Fowler, QBs rated lower, and RBs and O-lineman rated much higher than the "guru" are saying on sports programs. His rankings also lend more credence to the Gurley at 6 rumors we are hearing. He may not have him there by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Perriman at 10 is a surprise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Too much Combine talk. Don't like his rankings either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 Too much Combine talk. Don't like his rankings either. As I mentioned his ratings tend to reflect as much what he is hearing from GMs and actual NFL scouts as his own personal ratings, That is why they tend to be more reflective of the actual assessments of the players by NFL teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Perriman and Geno can tear it up for 4 games a year THO: 10. Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF Perriman (6-2, 212 pounds, 4.24 40 at pro day) is a strong receiver (18 reps in bench press). He had eight drops last season, but none in his last four games. In addition, 76 percent of his catches went for a first down, and he had nine touchdown receptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Very interesting to see Perriman above Parker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 As I mentioned his ratings tend to reflect as much what he is hearing from GMs and actual NFL scouts as his own personal ratings, That is why they tend to be more reflective of the actual assessments of the players by NFL teams I highly doubt any GM/Scout would tell him how they have player so and so ranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 One thing I get from reading this is that this is not a strong draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 One thing I get from reading this is that this is not a strong draft class. It's terrible. WR's, some RB's...thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 look how low DGB is: 55. Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, MissouriGreen-Beckham (6-5 1/8, 237 pounds, 4.43 40) transferred to Oklahoma because of off-field problems but didn't play in 2014. He's talented and has very good upside but will need a lot of work. Has him ranked 10th for WRs, below Conley (52) , Dorsett (40), Devon Smith (37), Agholor (29), Strong (21), Parker (11), Perriman (100), White (4) and Cooper (3). No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 It's terrible. WR's, some RB's...thats it. I'd change that to some pass rushers (Dupree, Beasley, Gregory), a WR (Cooper), a RB (Gurley), a couple CBs (Collins and Iko), a couple LBs (Dawson and McKinney), a few OL (I like Flowers, Scherff is quality, Humphries is solid, Erving should be a good C in the mold of Unger)....still, not many players I really like in this draft. You know how much THAT means! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 look how low DGB is: 55. Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Missouri Green-Beckham (6-5 1/8, 237 pounds, 4.43 40) transferred to Oklahoma because of off-field problems but didn't play in 2014. He's talented and has very good upside but will need a lot of work. Has him ranked 10th for WRs, below Conley (52) , Dorsett (40), Devon Smith (37), Agholor (29), Strong (21), Parker (11), Perriman (100), White (4) and Cooper (3). No way. Found a quote from Mayock in that DGB article saying "I watched every target in 2013.. He had no idea what he was doing out there. He tilted the field due to his weight, size and speed." Guess he isn't so nifty with his technique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Man I really agree with the top half of this list. If Winston, Mariota, Williams, Fowler, Cooper go top 5 in the draft I would take one of White, Gurley, Scherff. I'm not very high on the other Pass rushers after Fowler, at least not at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Well, I guess he would have liked my mock for Baltimore. 3 of the top 52. I ended up with 6 guys on the list, but I had 6 of the top 136 picks. Still, they were all picked after their rank. I think Conley is rated lower around here than he should be. He is physical and looks good. Good character and he is a good an athlete as there is. Maybe I just didn't watch enough college ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I got two top twenty guys in Humphries and Dupree. The way I see it THO - top pass rusher and second best OT after Scherff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Perriman and Geno can tear it up for 4 games a year THO: Jets @ Dolphins is in London this year, that takes away Geno's good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Jets @ Dolphins is in London this year, that takes away Geno's good game. If he couldn't figure out what time it was in San Diego, he's probably going to show up on Monday for the Dolphin's game in London... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 That's if he shows up in the right London..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 One thing I get from reading this is that this is not a strong draft class. Not news. This is why you don't win meaningless ******* December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 One thing I get from reading this is that this is not a strong draft class. So you're ignoring his introductory remarks on his own evaluation? Every NFL draft is a little bit different. While this year's class probably doesn't have as many elite players at the top as we've seen in previous years, there will be a lot of very good players from the middle of the first round to the middle of the second, starting from about No. 12 on my Hot 100 rankings to about No. 50. That tier of players is probably a better group this year than it was last year. In particular, there's a very strong group of wide receivers and running backs this year. In addition, I believe the top three players in my rankings each have the ability to be perennial Pro Bowl players. From the Jets' point of view, with the exception of QB, this draft is well timed. They need to develop an elite WR and they need a pass-catching RB. They also obviously could use a pass rusher. This draft actually can supply all three. I would also argue that it can provide a better back-up QB than Simms to at least give the Jets some depth. A guy like Mannion would be a worthwhile project guy at a later pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Has the two WRs very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLO Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Has the two WRs very high. Yeah, for good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I got to spot 10 then stopped reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I thought mariota sucked, was a bust, and would be drafted in the 20's ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Stopped reading at #4. Kevin White at #4. Kevin White is going to be a good WR. But he does not deserve a Top 10 spot. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I'd change that to some pass rushers (Dupree, Beasley, Gregory), a WR (Cooper), a RB (Gurley), a couple CBs (Collins and Iko), a couple LBs (Dawson and McKinney), a few OL (I like Flowers, Scherff is quality, Humphries is solid, Erving should be a good C in the mold of Unger)....still, not many players I really like in this draft. You know how much THAT means! LOL! What a coincidence.... that's the 14th ranked CB you reached for in 3rd round! Weaknesses Suffered a severe knee injury after the regular season in preparation for the College Football Playoff semifinal vs. Florida State. Unorthodox defender who rarely relies on technique. Gets in trouble trying to bait throws. Spends too much time trying to read quarterback and jump routes. Scouting community down on short cornerbacks. Prefers to play trail technique but lacks length speed to recover when challenged over the top against bigger targets. Missed more tackles in 2014 than in any other season. Can get wild and lose technique as a tackler. Tape from 2014 has scouts questioning his long speed. Draft Projection Round 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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