BurnleyJet Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The New York Jets continue to show faith in hot-and-cold pass rusher Quinton Coples. NFL Media's Albert Breer reported on Thursday that the team picked up the fifth-year option for 2016 on the outside linebacker they snagged with the 16th overall pick of the 2012 NFL Draft. The $7.8 million price tag is guaranteed only for injury, making this a safe alternative to a long-term deal for a player who has underachieved during his first three years in the league. Coples' 16.5 career sacks are far below what the Jets hoped for when they chose him over players such as Chandler Jones and Dont'a Hightower in the draft. "You see potential," new coach Todd Bowles said at the NFL Annual Meeting, per Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News. "He's a lot like (quarterback) Geno (Smith) ... You see him make plays and then you see him do other things at times. He can make strides this year and become a better player." Just 24, Coples must improve his work in pass coverage and learn to show up on film more consistently, but Bowles has displayed an ability to make the most of his pass rushers. If the former North Carolina star can turn up the heat this season, the Jets have made the right move. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000484871/article/jets-pick-up-quinton-coples-fifthyear-option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Coples' 16.5 career sacks are far below what the Jets hoped for when they chose him over players such as Chandler Jones and Dont'a Hightower in the draft. Chandler Jones is clearly better with 23.5 career sacks but Hightower has 11 career sacks. So he's between those guys. I wonder if the timing of this move is the FO cooling on the oLB options at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Chandler Jones is clearly better with 23.5 career sacks but Hightower has 11 career sacks. So he's between those guys. I wonder if the timing of this move is the FO cooling on the oLB options at 6. Hopefully the staff has no plans for Coples at OLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Chandler Jones is clearly better with 23.5 career sacks but Hightower has 11 career sacks. So he's between those guys. Doesn't Hightower primarily play ILB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Hopefully the staff has no plans for Coples at OLB They aren't going 4-3 so where else does he fit? go to ourlads he's the starting OLB and deservedly so over Pace, Babin, IK and Reilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Doesn't Hightower primarily play ILB? true but the other side is that 16.5 isn't THAT far away from 23.5. It's like 3 sacks a year over 4 years. Coples isn't a total disaster he has flashes of greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 They aren't going 4-3 so where else does he fit? go to ourlads he's the starting OLB and deservedly so over Pace, Babin, IK and Reilly. He's a backup to Sheldon and takes Snacks spot on passing downs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 true but the other side is that 16.5 isn't THAT far away from 23.5. It's like 3 sacks a year over 4 years. Coples isn't a total disaster he has flashes of greatness. Coples' career is going the way of Bryan Thomas. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Coples isn't a total disaster he has flashes of greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 true but the other side is that 16.5 isn't THAT far away from 23.5. It's like 3 sacks a year over 4 years. Coples isn't a total disaster he has flashes of greatness. Going untouched and clotheslining the corpse of MJD doesnt qualify as greatness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Chandler Jones is clearly better with 23.5 career sacks but Hightower has 11 career sacks. So he's between those guys. I wonder if the timing of this move is the FO cooling on the oLB options at 6. how many drive stopping third down sacks did Coples have ?? That's what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Not a bad pick up. It's a needed position. Getting rid of him just makes it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Get the max value out of him by putting his hand in the dirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Get the max value out of him by putting his hand in the dirt Rex Ryan totally ****ed this kid ...He had the frame to put on 20 to 30 pounds in the NFL and weigh in over 300 and play in a 4-3 Imagine a DL of Wilk Harrison Coples Richardson yes with Coples using his speed on the inside where he seemed to play his best football and where its really hard to take plays off like he was so often accused. Just total mismanagement of a player ....Of all his sacks I would be willing to bet a very small percentage were based on his outside speed and more of the 4 to 5 second variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 16.5 isn't THAT far away from 23.5. It's like 3 sacks a year over 4 years. Holy jesus ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 true but the other side is that 16.5 isn't THAT far away from 23.5. It's like 3 sacks a year over 4 years. Coples isn't a total disaster he has flashes of greatness. Bit, if I have 3 apples in 4 different sacks, how many apples do I have in total? Hint: it's not 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 true but the other side is that 16.5 isn't THAT far away from 23.5. It's like 3 sacks a year over 4 years. Coples isn't a total disaster he has flashes of greatness. ^ maff skillz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Bit, if I have 3 apples in 4 different sacks, how many apples do I have in total? Hint: it's not 7. 9'er? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Stop with the sack stats horsesh*t already. Q is not an edge rusher, he plays the run for the most part and took over for Mo as a 3-4 end full later in the year. By the way, he was still TWICE as disruptive as Chandler Jones, an edge rusher, who a lot of people think is one of the better pass rushers in the league. Figure that one out. Now he missed some games but even if you include another 6+ games his numbers wouldn't match Q's numbers in terms of wreaking havoc. If all you look at is sacks you don't get a clear picture. It's like comparing 2 RB's by their YPC average. It's pointless. Chris Johnson and Ivory had the same YPC average last year. If anybody out there tells me Ivory wasn't at least 3 times better that guy probably didn't watch any of our games. Q had twice as many QB hits as Calais Campbell. He ties Suggs for QB hits and tackles for a loss. He was more disruptive than Dareus, outside of the sack numbers. He was as disruptive as Jerry Jughes, one of the elite pass rushers, outside of the sack numbers. The list goes on and on. Q is no Derrick Thomas off the edge but he's very disruptive. Way more disruptive than a guy his size should be, and the position/role he was playing, and the limited amount of snaps he had. I think he has All Pro potential and under Bowles who I think knows what he's doing when it comes to moving guys around, using them in the right spots etc. I think he'll blossom. You can't play Richardson at OLB and then say he sucks as a football player if he doesn't produce 20 sacks. Q is not an edge rusher, he's no Von Miller. He should play with his hand on the ground, whether it's in the 4-3 or 3-4. He stepped in for Mo in the 3-4 for a couple games and I didn't notice any dropoff, I actually think he looked better than Mo at times, so I'm excited to see what he does this year under Bowles and hopefully Bowles figures out what he doesn't do well in camp to make sure he doesn't just continue to make him do things he doesn't do well. Wrecks failed to do that, with a bunch of guys. Not just Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Looks like the Jets have got him for....a cople more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Looks like the Jets have got him for....a cople more years. Groan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Looks like the Jets have got him for....a cople more years. POTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I think Coples is very underrated. He got a lot of pressures last year, but the secondary could not give him that extra .1 or ,.2 seconds to get the stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 He's a backup to Sheldon and takes Snacks spot on passing downs they didn't pick up a 7 million dollar option to put him on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Coples' career is going the way of Bryan Thomas. Book it. Bryan Thomas was a reliable Jet for a decade that's not a bad career and yea so what I can't do basic math. DONT LOOK AT ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Bryan Thomas was a reliable Jet for a decade Never could understand all the Bryan Thomas hate on this board. As bit said, he was a very solid player for a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Coples had 6.5 sacks last year which is not bad at all and he will have a better career than most of these DE/OLB people are bickering over us picking at 6. Coples has less sacks than Chandler Jones? Ok, if you're going to compare him compare him to everyone because he has been better or significantly better than the following: Melvin Ingram (who people wanted to draft over Coples) Dion Jordan Barkevkious Mingo Dee Ford Jarvis Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Never could understand all the Bryan Thomas hate on this board. As bit said, he was a very solid player for a decade. That's just how it goes when guys fall short of expectations. I liked Bryan Thomas and thought he was a very good player. Problem is, when he was drafted we just kept hearing about his insane 20yd/40yd splits and how he was going to be a double-digit sack guy every year. He never became that so fans were disappointed. That and the fact that he had such a hard time keeping weight on meant a year or two before he really started contributing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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