Andrus Peat

[derp]

Mehta had a column where he threw out a rumor that the Jets like Peat. This is definitely smokescreen season, but this one I kind of buy. We always put the Jets into a box with what we expect they'll do on draft day. This year it's edge rusher, Cooper/White, Schreff, or maybe Mariota if he's available. But the Jets typically throw a curveball. 

 

This year they've brought in a ton of tackles for visits. If this rumor came from within the organization I wouldn't be surprised if they actually like someone else - although it certainly could be from other teams and maybe it is Peat. Things get complicated with tackles because the back end of the top 10 (Giants, Rams) could be interested. I wouldn't sleep on the possibility of a tackle at 6. Don't like Mehta and think it'd be considered a reach, but I think it's a real possibility.

 

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[Matt39]

In play at 6?

[Ghost]

In play at 6?

Impossible. I would expect the Jets to trade down and grab him 12-16. He will be able to contribute from day 1 and be our long term LT.

[Patriot Killa]

We could put him at RT until Brick is finished.

[T0mShane]

Based on the way they approached free agency and their pre-draft visits, it seems likely that they're drafting OL, CB, then OLB. Barring a trade-down, Peat (or Collins) makes for a fit at 6, then Marcus Peters in round two.

[CTM]

Based on the way they approached free agency and their pre-draft visits, it seems likely that they're drafting OL, CB, then OLB. Barring a trade-down, Peat (or Collins) makes for a fit at 6, then Marcus Peters in round two.

 

In terms of quantity, we had more WR and QB visits then anything else... Not sure why they aren't on your list

[Matt39]

Based on the way they approached free agency and their pre-draft visits, it seems likely that they're drafting OL, CB, then OLB. Barring a trade-down, Peat (or Collins) makes for a fit at 6, then Marcus Peters in round two.

That Milliner pick really panned out

[T0mShane]

In terms of quantity, we had more WR and QB visits then anything else... Not sure why they aren't on your list

They addressed receiver and there are no good QBs.

[T0mShane]

That Milliner pick really panned out

It doesn't appear that Maccagnan gives a sh*t about any player who was here before he was hired, except for David Harris.

[dbatesman]

They addressed receiver and there are no good QBs.

I wouldn't bet on Marshall being here beyond 2015.

[CTM]

They addressed receiver and there are no good QBs.

 

 

No they didn't

[Larz]

def a smokescreen.   they guy they like is probably a guy they haven't had in for a visit of spoke of in any way

 

winston ?

[Dcat]

They addressed receiver and there are no good QBs.

 

Marshall is short term.  2 years max, perhaps one year.  They must draft a WR somewhere in the first 3 rounds, IMO. 

[T0mShane]

I wouldn't bet on Marshall being here beyond 2015.

Maybe, but it's a pretty big hedge to throw the 6 pick at a receiver in anticipation of Marshall going nuclear. Right now, receiver isn't a giant need. I desperately want Cooper, though. I'm just not sure if Maccagnan, with four significant picks, throws one at what is a luxury in the short term.

[T0mShane]

No they didn't

Oh.

[T0mShane]

Marshall is short term.  2 years max, perhaps one year.  They must draft a WR somewhere in the first 3 rounds, IMO.

Probably, and if Cooper is there, they should take him, but I think a Peat or Collins upgrades the offense immediately more so than any other receiver.

[dbatesman]

Maybe, but it's a pretty big hedge to throw the 6 pick at a receiver in anticipation of Marshall going nuclear. Right now, receiver isn't a giant need. I desperately want Cooper, though. I'm just not sure if Maccagnan, with four significant picks, throws one at what is a luxury in the short term.

If Maccagnan passes on Cooper because of Brandon ******* Marshall, he's dead to me.

[T0mShane]

If Maccagnan passes on Cooper because of Brandon ******* Marshall, he's dead to me.

I think he would be the exception to all rules.

[slats]

Based on the way they approached free agency and their pre-draft visits, it seems likely that they're drafting OL, CB, then OLB. Barring a trade-down, Peat (or Collins) makes for a fit at 6, then Marcus Peters in round two.

They signed a free agent guard and three CBs. I suspect they're thinking they might have something in all the OL Idzik drafted the last two years, and won't take OL high. I know it's smoke-blowing season, but Maccagnan also said OL is something a team can develop, that you don't necessarily have to take them high. I think he was telling the truth, because that's the smart approach. Marshall has no guarantees beyond this season, and OLB/pass rusher is an obvious hole. That's still the direction I see them going, unless they're secretly in love with Mariota.

[T0mShane]

They signed a free agent guard and three CBs. I suspect they're thinking they might have something in all the OL Idzik drafted the last two years, and won't take OL high. I know it's smoke-blowing season, but Maccagnan also said OL is something a team can develop, that you don't necessarily have to take them high. I think he was telling the truth, because that's the smart approach. Marshall has no guarantees beyond this season, and OLB/pass rusher is an obvious hole. That's still the direction I see them going, unless they're secretly in love with Mariota.

I'm interested to see if anyone but Chip has real interest in Mariota, to be honest.

The Jets have been all over CBs this offseason, interviewing Peters twice (including a visit), Darby, Collins, Rollins, etc. All of those guys are going Rounds 2-3. Cro's deal is more tenuous than Marshall's is, and it doesn't sound like Bowles has a lot of love for Milliner and McDougle as yet, so the team's interest in CB seems logical.

The OL vs OLB thing at 6 will likely come down to whether Beasley or Fowler drops. If it's neither, and Cooper is gone, everything is in play, imo. Getting the giant RT with LT potential there would be the economical thing. Brick-Carpenter-Mangold-Breno/Dozier-Peat/Collins can make for a pretty nice offense.

[thshadow]

If Cooper (or White depending on their eval) is on the board when they're up, they might be clear cut BPA.  If so, I hope / imagine they'll take them.  No way they take Peat over them.

[faba]

Based on the way they approached free agency and their pre-draft visits, it seems likely that they're drafting OL, CB, then OLB. Barring a trade-down, Peat (or Collins) makes for a fit at 6, then Marcus Peters in round two.

So you like Peat better than Beasley or Ray if that is the choices.

[T0mShane]

So you like Peat better than Beasley or Ray if that is the choices.

I would take the chance that Beasley is a terrorist off the edge that ruins the lives of Cassell and Brady. Ray now has a foot issue and probably won't go until the late first.

[Larz]

I would take the chance that Beasley is a terrorist off the edge that ruins the lives of Cassell and Brady. Ray now has a foot issue and probably won't go until the late first.

 

ray suffered the toe injury in the citrus bowl and every team knew about it at the combine and presumably it came up during the medical evals.  the "news" was that a doc said he didn't need surgery recently.  don't know why that would drop him.  the injury was only news to fans and kiper types

[Ex-Rex]

It all depends on who is still on the board when the Jets draft. Yeah, they might like Peat, but not at 6. If Cooper or White is available and no team is willing to trade up for them the Jets should just take the BPA. I think THAT is Maccagnan's strategy and it is solid. No reaches, like Tanny used to do with Stephen Hill and Vlad Ducasse, Keller and Kyle Wilson.

[Ex-Rex]

We always put the Jets into a box with what we expect they'll do on draft day. This year it's edge rusher, Cooper/White, Schreff, or maybe Mariota if he's available.

So do these jerks that make up these mock drafts. I have seen several that have the Jets simply passing on Mariota, which WILL NEVER HAPPEN, should he drop to 6. I think these guys just decide what a team 'needs' and then pick players that are popular to throw in there. There are wrong on 90 percent of their picks. There are several of these 'edge rushers' that I wouldn't touch. Bud Dupree (workout warrior), Gregory (wayyy character issues), Ray (injury issues), Beasley (too small). Beasley is a Bruce Irvin type who is a situation player in Seattle as a first round pick. Not good enough. Fowler is the only edge rusher I would consider, otherwise I go WR, RB or trade down for OL.

[T0mShane]

ray suffered the toe injury in the citrus bowl and every team knew about it at the combine and presumably it came up during the medical evals.  the "news" was that a doc said he didn't need surgery recently.  don't know why that would drop him.  the injury was only news to fans and kiper types

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported that Ray saw a foot specialist, Dr. Aakash Shah in Kansas City, on Thursday and that the doctor's recommendation was that surgery wasn't necessary.

A week away from the start of the NFL Draft, timing of the injury news couldn't be worse for Ray. According to NFL Media draft analyst Lance Zierlein, some teams believe surgery is required, which would sideline him for three to five months. In turn, that could threaten his status as a first-round pick, Zierlein says.

[T0mShane]

Kiper types

[Larz]

Kiper types

 

According to NFL Media draft analyst Lance Zierlein, some teams believe surgery is required, which would sideline him for three to five months

 

 

they clearly already knew about this injury, so it was not news to the NFL clubs, only kiper types

 

I bet NFL teams boards didn't change much with this news, only internet mocks

[derp]

It's easy to say Peat's fine just not at 6. If they like him a lot as a prospect, I don't think they drop farther than 8 to try to target him. Giants or Rams could easily snap him up. So if they can't work out a trade down and they like him better than the other prospects on the board, it's definitely a possibility. The target could be another offensive lineman though. Or it's just a straight up smokescreen. Regardless, I think it's good to expand thinking a little past the Cooper/White/Schreff/Mariota/edge rusher box.

 

There's some rumors Beasley is juicing, and I think he's a better 4-3 fit due to his lack of size. Tony Pauline said something about Orchard or McKinney in round 2. I'd expect that before a round 2 corner.

 

With Revis, Cro, Skrine, and decent depth behind them I don't think corner is an immediate need. Peters is really the only one they've shown interest in post FA. Maybe it's something they look at late, but at the rate they're going they'll have to cut a decent player to keep a rookie on the roster. It's one of the deepest spots on the team. I don't see it.

 

They kind of addressed receiver. I think it's still a need. Not sure they see it the same way. But as I look at it, Marshall is basically on a one year deal and Gailey runs 3+ wide sets 85% of the time. So unless Kerley is viewed as a legitimate starting caliber player, I think there's more of a need than people give it credit for. Just because the Jets have two starting receivers in Decker and Marshall doesn't mean they're set there, because they really start three in terms of snaps. By drafting a Cooper/White you bolster a strength on the weak unit of the team in a way that you'll have the rookie on the field, he won't have pressure to be the focal point right away, he can learn from some good veterans, and you've got a long-term #1 skill guy on the team. But it makes so much sense to me I doubt the Jets are thinking the same way.

 

I still think running back gets a look in rounds 2-4 as well. No real pass catching guy on the roster, unless they love Powell.

[T0mShane]

It's easy to say Peat's fine just not at 6. If they like him a lot as a prospect, I don't think they drop farther than 8 to try to target him. Giants or Rams could easily snap him up. So if they can't work out a trade down and they like him better than the other prospects on the board, it's definitely a possibility. The target could be another offensive lineman though. Or it's just a straight up smokescreen. Regardless, I think it's good to expand thinking a little past the Cooper/White/Schreff/Mariota/edge rusher box.

There's some rumors Beasley is juicing, and I think he's a better 4-3 fit due to his lack of size. Tony Pauline said something about Orchard or McKinney in round 2. I'd expect that before a round 2 corner.

With Revis, Cro, Skrine, and decent depth behind them I don't think corner is an immediate need. Peters is really the only one they've shown interest in post FA. Maybe it's something they look at late, but at the rate they're going they'll have to cut a decent player to keep a rookie on the roster. It's one of the deepest spots on the team. I don't see it.

They kind of addressed receiver. I think it's still a need. Not sure they see it the same way. But as I look at it, Marshall is basically on a one year deal and Gailey runs 3+ wide sets 85% of the time. So unless Kerley is viewed as a legitimate starting caliber player, I think there's more of a need than people give it credit for. Just because the Jets have two starting receivers in Decker and Marshall doesn't mean they're set there, because they really start three in terms of snaps. By drafting a Cooper/White you bolster a strength on the weak unit of the team in a way that you'll have the rookie on the field, he won't have pressure to be the focal point right away, he can learn from some good veterans, and you've got a long-term #1 skill guy on the team. But it makes so much sense to me I doubt the Jets are thinking the same way.

I still think running back gets a look in rounds 2-4 as well. No real pass catching guy on the roster, unless they love Powell.

RE: receiver, they just gave Kerley the extension and I can't believe that they'd give a 5th for Marshall with the expectation that he'd be here one year. I think, at least internally, they believe they have three wideouts for the immediate future. The question is if they want to use that 6 pick to add to an already passable group or instead use it to plug a hole at OLB or ORT. We can be pretty confident that there will be a hole at LT (Brick at $14 mil), C (Mangold at $11 iirc), and CB (Cro at big money). Even looking to next year, receiver is down the list of needs.

As for backs, the Jets haven't worked any of them out or interviewed them as far as I've read, and it seems like Ivory-Powell-Ridley are roster locks unless Ridley doesn't bounce back from injury. I'd be surprised if they used a Rd 1-4 pick on a back.

The Marcus Peters thing is intriguing because Bowles had success with Mathieu in Arizona and maybe they feel like they can find lightning in a bottle twice. They were pretty aggressive with corners early on which struck me as a no-confidence vote in Milliner and/or McDougle.

[derp]

RE: receiver, they just gave Kerley the extension and I can't believe that they'd give a 5th for Marshall with the expectation that he'd be here one year. I think, at least internally, they believe they have three wideouts for the immediate future. The question is if they want to use that 6 pick to add to an already passable group or instead use it to plug a hole at OLB or ORT. We can be pretty confident that there will be a hole at LT (Brick at $14 mil), C (Mangold at $11 iirc), and CB (Cro at big money). Even looking to next year, receiver is down the list of needs.

As for backs, the Jets haven't worked any of them out or interviewed them as far as I've read, and it seems like Ivory-Powell-Ridley are roster locks unless Ridley doesn't bounce back from injury. I'd be surprised if they used a Rd 1-4 pick on a back.

The Marcus Peters thing is intriguing because Bowles had success with Mathieu in Arizona and maybe they feel like they can find lightning in a bottle twice. They were pretty aggressive with corners early on which struck me as a no-confidence vote in Milliner and/or McDougle.

 

Maccagnan didn't give Kerley the extension though, Idzik did. They'd save money cutting him this year or next year. It's pretty easy to make the same argument for the receivers that you're making for the tackles (cap savings are comparable, Marshall's similar in age to Brick). Giacomini is probably comparable to Kerley if we're talking about them as every down players too. I think you could go either way with it. The main difference in my eyes is that the top two receivers in the draft are probably better than the tackles. All else equal, I could easily see going tackle. But given how BPA he's been, I think receiver would be the better move depending on who's available. I don't think it'll happen, but that would be my preference. 

 

Ridley basically got no guaranteed money, I don't think those three are locks. You could be right about it not being addressed. I still think it's more of a hole than you give it credit for being - basically because I think Ivory and Ridley are redundant in terms of skill sets. You've got a jack of all trades master of none back in Powell and two power backs with quesitonable hands and fumbling issues. A speed/third down type is missing and this would be a nice class to address it. Not like they've brought in a lot of guys who are expected to go in round 3/4 at other positions either - and this is a good running back class. It's also an issue in Gailey's spread system, although maybe he's planning on running more power stuff here.

 

The Peters thing is intriguing. But it's literally just Peters they've brought in as corners go, and he's got a good chance of going in round. So if he's not there...that's it. And I think the aggressiveness with corners early was a function of not knowing how free agency was  going to pan out. Now that they've brought in three you're talking about Milliner, Marcus Williams, Walls, and McDougle all filling out the roster as 4-7 with at least one of those four likely being cut. They're not world beaters, but three of those guys started last year and the fourth was a third round pick. As your back end corners, I think there's a comfort level there in the short-term and upside in the long-term. I'd be surprised if they did too much aside from maybe Peters, but who knows.

[Shockwave]

The Best GM's in the game are a year ahead. Mangold and Brick have huge cap hits and only have a few good years left. 

 

Trading down and grabbing Peat would be an amazing start to Mac's career here. Would be a brilliant move. 

[Barton]

Peat is the best tackle in the draft - he will be a top 10 pick.

 

I'd have no issue with the Jets taking him at 6, especially if Fowler/Williams/Cooper are off the board.

[jack48]

No they didn't

Correct. They are not set there.  Decker missed time last year with a hammy.  Marshall is getting on in years and also was hurt last year.  These incidents could easily be repeated.  And the rest of our WRs are unproven ---to put it mildly