nycdan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Jason LaConforna just posted a really different take on the top-5 talents in the draft. I won't post the entire thing but I will tease with this: No QBs, and at least one name that I found surprising. Leonard Williams, Dante Fowler, Shane Ray, Kevin White, Amari Cooper. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/25164871/there-are-only-five-cant-miss-players-in-the-2015-nfl-draft He notes that the list isn't his but comes from a scout he trusts very much. Here's a teaser on their top guy. 1. Leonard Williams, DL, USC: He's the best pick in this draft and it isn't even really all that close. In fact, if the two quarterbacks go with the first two picks, and the Jaguars (picking third overall) take (pass rusher Dante) Fowler before him, they're crazy. I don't care what your defensive line looks like, this is the pick. He should go first overall. There is no way I would take one of these quarterbacks over him, but with the position some of these teams are in, I understand why he won't go first. I can't say he's completely can't-miss. He's a little bit different in some ways; he's kind of a hippie. But he can play, God can he play. He is the best player in this draft and I don't see how anyone could really debate that. So I wasn't keen on Williams because of our depth at DL, but this opened my eyes a bit. If he fell to 6, I was all about the trade down (which would probably be best if we got a king's ransom) but this is as gushy as I've seen on any of these kids. Enjoy FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I've thought that way about Williams all along and have said I'd take him if I was the Jets but would for sure also listen to trade offers if someone wanted to over pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Question then is would you take Winston at #6 OR trade down ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I could see Shane Ray as a top 5 talent, but as a lineman. I just dont see him as a OLB. I could be wrong on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I like Ray a lot, but he's too small to be a classic 4-3 DE which is ideal position with HID. The learning curve to OLB coverage drops him, IMO from a Jets perspective, to a 2nd rounder because he's learning a new facet of the position which will take time at the speed the NFL functions. He's a developmental OLB and that is NOT worth the #6 overall, and then there's the "foot issue" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He sees a clear cut top-five players in this draft, and then a significant drop Great year to be picking 6th boys!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He sees a clear cut top-five players in this draft, and then a significant drop Great year to be picking 6th boys!! He also sees Shane Ray as one of them. Who cares. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Leonard could bring us in a nice couple of extra picks for teams wanting to move up. It would be great if he was available and we trade back with Giants and and get some value picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I could see Shane Ray as a top 5 talent, but as a lineman. I just dont see him as a OLB. I could be wrong on that. I see Amari Cooper as a top 5 talent, but as a kicker. I just don't see him as a WR. I could be wrong on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Sounds like Polian's list from the things I have heard him say. He is super high on Ray for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 He also sees Shane Ray as one of them. Who cares. What do you think? I dont to be honest, I was just trying to be funny. That list sucks. La Confora is a boob anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Great year to be picking 6th boys!! Yeah, but the two QB's will be picked in the top 5...which leaves two of those guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 why does the link go to JN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 why does the link go to JN?Yeah sending me to post a new topic I found it. Interesting he calls Beasley a One hit wonder, when he had 3 very good seasons with his jr season maybe his best. Don't know what to make of Beasley and why some are so against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Great year to be picking 6th boys!! Haa...His clear cut 5 doesn't include 2 QBs. Now if we were picking 8th overall.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Great year to be picking 6th boys!! exactly ! the QB's will be over-drafted because they are heisman flops, so the jets trade down and still get beasley sweet ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Top 5, then a drop off a cliff..... great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 why does the link go to JN? Ugh...No idea but I fixed it. Thanks for pointing it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Top 5, then a drop off a cliff..... great. Only if you believe the five, and you know one if not both QBs will go before our pick so we'll have good options. I see a six-man pack. 2 QBs, 2 WRs, Williams and Fowler. Any one of them works for me and at least one will be available. So does that mean the Jets won't do something completely unexpected? No, but I'm not worried about being on the outside looking in. The Bears, on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Only if you believe the five, and you know one if not both QBs will go before our pick so we'll have good options. I see a six-man pack. 2 QBs, 2 WRs, Williams and Fowler. Any one of them works for me and at least one will be available. So does that mean the Jets won't do something completely unexpected? No, but I'm not worried about being on the outside looking in. The Bears, on the other hand... You think Trader Mike will pull a few quick ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 You think Trader Mike will pull a few quick ones? I'm more concerned they draft someone who's a bigger question mark like Dupree or Ray. Not that it would be a disaster at all, but I like the top-6 a lot. Or a trade down for exceptional value (like CLE's #12 and their second rounder). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Great year to be picking 6th boys!! Since none of the five are a QB, it actually is, since if that's accurate we'll either get a QB or a blue chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Media needs QBs to add to the hype. Drafts with highly rated QBs draw a lot more interest, that's the only reason you're seeing Mariota in the top 10 of any list. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Since none of the five are a QB, it actually is, since if that's accurate we'll either get a QB or a blue chip What if you think there are three blue chips and two quarterbacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Sounds like Polian's list from the things I have heard him say. He is super high on Ray for some reason. I have watched Shane Ray a LOT...as a Mizzou season ticket holder and all....the thing about Ray is only his size is not prototypical for the NFL. Much like Richardson though, the kid has a NON-STOP motor and never takes a play off. He's relentless. Then, throw in the 'toe' issue and a recent marijuana possession and...you got a huge question mark for sure. I'd LOVE for him to fall to us in the 2nd rd...but not sure he falls that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 What if you think there are three blue chips and two quarterbacks? Then you don't agree with the scout and using the Lacanfora piece to whine about picking 6 is still idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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