Davidkjet Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 With weapons, this guy posted some BIG numbers! 2013 = 37 TD's Monster Arm, slow but good pocket awareness. Round 3??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I was high on Mannion 2-3 years ago, and thought that after 2014 he would be much closer to being NFL ready. The guy just has not progressed. He is actually not good in the pocket, he tends to apart if he cannot go to his primary receiver. Mechanics are still sketchy -- long throwing motion and passes off his back foot too often. Still has a tendency to stare down his receivers. He is exactly the same QB he was two to three years ago -- very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 With weapons, this guy posted some BIG numbers! 2013 = 37 TD's Monster Arm, slow but good pocket awareness. Round 3??? I like him. Seems alot of folks don't. I'd take a flier on him in the 3rd or 4th, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Agree with Warfish. He's one of the better physical talents that has experience in a pro,offense is definitely worth a 4th-7th rounder considering our poor QB depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I like him. Seems alot of folks don't. I'd take a flier on him in the 3rd or 4th, sure. I would not burn a 3rd on him. 3rd round should get us a player who contributes quickly. Rounds 4-6 are more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I would not burn a 3rd on him. 3rd round should get us a player who contributes quickly. Rounds 4-6 are more appropriate. Would depend on what Mac thinks Mannion can really be. If he believes this big, tall, strong, big-armed Prostyle-experienced but alot-to-learn kid can be a legit #1, you take as late as possible without losing him. Could be 3. Could be 5. Who knows. If not, you don't pick him at all. In any round. I freely admit, I'm oldschool, and like my QB's in the old style pocket passer with a big arm mold (i.e. a modern Ken O'Brien with a better O-line). I'm also often VERY wrong on the QB's I like (Ramsey, Pennington, Schaub, Glenn Foley, etc.). I'm only ever seemingly right about QB's I think suck (i.e. almost every Jets QB in recent years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I was high on Mannion 2-3 years ago, and thought that after 2014 he would be much closer to being NFL ready. The guy just has not progressed. He is actually not good in the pocket, he tends to apart if he cannot go to his primary receiver. Mechanics are still sketchy -- long throwing motion and passes off his back foot too often. Still has a tendency to stare down his receivers. He is exactly the same QB he was two to three years ago -- very disappointing. I agree with you... I was going to hit the arrow up & accidently hit the arrow down & there is no way to correct that :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 If he believes this big, tall, strong, big-armed Prostyle-experienced but alot-to-learn kid can be a legit #1, you take as late as possible without losing him. Could be 3. Could be 5. Who knows. This sounds like your scouting report on Patrick Ramsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I agree with you... I was going to hit the arrow up & accidently hit the arrow down & there is no way to correct that :/ No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Would depend on what Mac thinks Mannion can really be. If he believes this big, tall, strong, big-armed Prostyle-experienced but alot-to-learn kid can be a legit #1, you take as late as possible without losing him. Could be 3. Could be 5. Who knows. If not, you don't pick him at all. In any round. I freely admit, I'm oldschool, and like my QB's in the old style pocket passer with a big arm mold (i.e. a modern Ken O'Brien with a better O-line). I'm also often VERY wrong on the QB's I like (Ramsey, Pennington, Schaub, Glenn Foley, etc.). I'm only ever seemingly right about QB's I think suck (i.e. almost every Jets QB in recent years). This is what will happen. You can book it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I would not burn a 3rd on him. 3rd round should get us a player who contributes quickly. Rounds 4-6 are more appropriate. Agreed but we haven't seemed to be able to get contribution in round 2 lately....what makes us think 3 would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Agreed but we haven't seemed to be able to get contribution in round 2 lately....what makes us think 3 would work. I hope you are mumbling to yourself, because your post is too 'effin idiotic to warrant a half-way serious response regarding our 2015 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I hope you are mumbling to yourself, because your post is too 'effin idiotic to warrant a half-way serious response regarding our 2015 picks. I was joking....still reeling from Stephen Hill and Vlad in round 2 recent history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Jace Amaro TE Geno Smith QB Stephen Hill WR became compensation for Cromartie Vlad Duccasse LG traded for Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Jace Amaro TE Geno Smith QB Stephen Hill WR became compensation for Cromartie Vlad Duccasse LG traded for Sanchez The JETS round 2 HOF list. I actually believe Amaro will be a solid player and I agreed with the Geno pick at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Jameis or Grayson. Only QBs I'd be cool with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I want to know if any of the posters who go out of there way to say, "they've watched Hundley and he sucks," can say, "they've watched Mannion and he's good." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 fyi.... "I was surprised when I saw my buddy Josh Norris posted on a number of teams ranking Sean Mannion as the third quarterback in the draft. In the end Mannion could be the one laughing as I’m told more than a dozen teams in fact rank Mannion number three on their quarterback board. The Oregon State senior has recently worked out for the St Louis Rams and Dallas Cowboys." -Tony Pauline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I want to know if any of the posters who go out of there way to say, "they've watched Hundley and he sucks," can say, "they've watched Mannion and he's good." Hundley should go play baseball, and Mannion is the reason teams hire a QB coach. Does that help ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Hundley should go play baseball, and Mannion is the reason teams hire a QB coach. Does that help ? Me sleep at night? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 The JETS round 2 HOF list. I actually believe Amaro will be a solid player and I agreed with the Geno pick at the time. Back when we took Geno I did an exhaustive list of all the 2nd rounders we'd wasted over the past couple of decades. Then, I promptly threw up in my lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I don't think you waste a pick on a late round QB when you are short on draft choices. The hit rate is way too low and our roster could use help at other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidkjet Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 Someone commented earlier about the lack of development on MANNION over the last year or so... 37 TD's to 15 PICKS is difficult to replicate when you've lost all of your play makers and you're working behind a new O Line. Admittedly, the guy is slow but he's BIG with a cannon and has proven he can deliver the goods when he has a supporting cast. We don't want a running QB, we want an elusive/smart QB in the pocket. I also agree with the point made about having a QB coach! Whether the JETS get him or not, he will be the eventual surprise QB out of this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I'd take a shot on him. Watched him for four years at OSU. He's going to be decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidkjet Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 YUP! He's smart & big with an even bigger arm. Will be pissed off if someone like the Pats, Chargers or Broncos grab him; tired of the rich getting richer! Bellichik would coach him up great too! Please Woody/Cags/Bowles - Round 3 or 4 on Sean "The Mann" Mannion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I'd take a shot on him. Watched him for four years at OSU. He's going to be decent. ...on somebody's scout team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Funny, but after 4 yrs at Oregon, tons of game tape, it took the supposed best of the talking heads up until the week before the draft to elevate this kid to the 5th spot in his QB rankings. Mannion is a better pro prospect than Hundley ever will be. IMO, he's a better prospect than Petty and might be with some proper coaching , on par with Winston. It's up to him and how bad he wants to be an NFL Starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 With weapons, this guy posted some BIG numbers! 2013 = 37 TD's Monster Arm, slow but good pocket awareness. Round 3??? Round 0 - he's going to be trash in the nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Round 0 - he's going to be trash in the nfl i don't know why jets fans are tryna sell them selves on these Career Backups.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Funny, but after 4 yrs at Oregon, tons of game tape, it took the supposed best of the talking heads up until the week before the draft to elevate this kid to the 5th spot in his QB rankings. Mannion is a better pro prospect than Hundley ever will be. IMO, he's a better prospect than Petty and might be with some proper coaching , on par with Winston. It's up to him and how bad he wants to be an NFL Starter. Seems like the trend is completely dismiss QBs that cannot run not named Winston. I think both Grayson and Mannion are tremendously underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Funny, but after 4 yrs at Oregon, tons of game tape, it took the supposed best of the talking heads up until the week before the draft to elevate this kid to the 5th spot in his QB rankings. Mannion is a better pro prospect than Hundley ever will be. IMO, he's a better prospect than Petty and might be with some proper coaching , on par with Winston. It's up to him and how bad he wants to be an NFL Starter. 5th in a two horse race. Meaningless grading on a curve of one of the worst QB classes in recent history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 highlights on you tube show he has talent - worth a lower round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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