Blackout Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 the bottom line with the Williams pick is the offensive line can't double all these guys Williams and Amari Cooper were the safest 2 players in the whole draft while Mo is here, and they all stay healthy, it truly would be a super unit i love it because it means we have a complete defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Cant wait to see White turn into Fitzgerald next year. with Gay Cutler?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Sure, except for the cap implications of moving from Wilkerson to a rookie under team control at the rookie wage scale for five years. Hence why giving Harris a gazillion dollars was a horrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 #Jets DE Leonard Williams on facing Patriots: "I hope that's the first sack of my career, on Tom Brady" Welcome young man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 #Jets DE Leonard Williams on facing Patriots: "I hope that's the first sack of my career, on Tom Brady" Welcome young man yeaH!@!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Hence why giving Harris a gazillion dollars was a horrible idea. Jets.had.to.reach.floor. 2 years guaranteed BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Jets.had.to.reach.floor. 2 years guaranteed BTW. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJet Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Who is? snacks..prob coples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 ^^ agreed. Nice seeing you brother. You too, man. Looking forward to the rest of Macc's handywork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Hence why giving Harris a gazillion dollars was a horrible idea. No argument here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 If you were "so sure" he was going top 3 then you should be ecstatic that we were able to get him with the 6th pick yeah I mean he's a nice player, I just wanted offense this year. an exciting play-maker who scores the dang ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 yeah I mean he's a nice player, I just wanted offense this year. an exciting play-maker who scores the dang ball that's Brandon Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 that's Brandon Marshall Bingo. Plus Devin Smith, Justin Hardy, Tre McBride, Tyler Lockett, Chris Conley, Sammie Coates, DGB etc. are still on the board. Let's see what happens tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 The more I think about it, The RAW EMOTIONAL ENERGY and MOTORS that Richardson & Williams will bring on EVERY DEFENSIVE SNAP up the middle will be LEGENDARY, NUCLEAR EVEN!!!!!! they will get the stadium rocking', should be fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 #Jets DE Leonard Williams on facing Patriots: "I hope that's the first sack of my career, on Tom Brady" Welcome young man I hope not. That's game 10. He should have said I hope my 15th sack is on Brady, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I hope not. That's game 10. He should have said I hope my 15th sack is on Brady, You mean game 6 ... preseason doesn't count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I sort of wanted to be pissed at selecting yet another D lineman, but I just can't. Almost everyone thought he was easily the best PLAYER in the draft, and he is ridiculously versatile. We may never play base defense with this group. Our nickel might be completely invulnerable to the run, and we have all types of ways to get pressure and completely lock down the secondary, Williams could be completely dominant in our defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 You mean game 6 ... preseason doesn't count OK 6, but I will stick with 14 sacks to that point..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Nothing is really gauranteed in NFL drafts, but this is as close to safe as you can possibly get. I don't give a sh*t what position the player is. The imporant thing is whether we hit a home run or not, and in this case, we did. This guy is not on the same level as the Gholstons, Milliners, Wilsons, Sanchez's. Williams is a sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I sort of wanted to be pissed at selecting yet another D lineman, but I just can't. Almost everyone thought he was easily the best PLAYER in the draft, and he is ridiculously versatile. We may never play base defense with this group. Our nickel might be completely invulnerable to the run, and we have all types of ways to get pressure and completely lock down the secondary, Williams could be completely dominant in our defense I agree. I think it's going to be nearly impossibly to double team any of our defensive lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsmanjb Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Yea baby I'm so glad we got him... he's probably the best player in the draft There's still a ton of talent left and round 2 will definitely be exciting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I agree. I think it's going to be nearly impossibly to double team any of our defensive lineman. That's why I think we play/show an occasional (and crazy) 5-1-5 A five man D front is ONE OLine assigned to block by himself EACH of our DLINE men. Each guy may require a double team and the offense doesn't have enough blockers. EVEN IF they go double TE to assist, you hand cuff an opposing offense of extra WRs or RBs - TARGETS- because you have to dedicate your resources to keeping the QB alive or even a PRAYER of a crease as a running lane for RBs. It's sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 This is a very interesting pick, something I did not expect, but unlike past randomness in the draft, this seems like an almost pleasant surprise. I didn't expect him to make it to the Jets, so I didn't bother looking into him too much, but pretty much every scouting report had him as a top 2 pick, so it's nice to see someone fall to us. I wonder how they fit him in. If we can get Mo/Harrison/Williams/Richardson could be a nasty nasty front. I've seen a couple of Suh comparisons and even a little bit of Watt (although Watt's combine was just amazing) so it'll be interesting to see how they fit everyone in. With our secondary right now, this is going to be a fun defense to watch, should get more sacks/turnovers with all the extra pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ8hJaiZvTY Not sure if it's already been posted, but these guys were pretty amazed by him I believe. Although, not exactly professional scouts here, so take it with a grain of salt, but the one guy is a former NFL player I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 He's good. Really good. After watching two entire youtube clips (the game ones, not the compilation ones), I can safely say that Leonard Williams will NEVER get an off-sides penalty. Comparisons to Suh and JJ Watt are interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 This defensive front is going to win the line of scrimmage every game. And with the man cover corners we have, good luck scoring on this defense. This defense is way better than the 2010 defense. I just hope the key guys stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 That's why I think we play/show an occasional (and crazy) 5-1-5 A five man D front is ONE OLine assigned to block by himself EACH of our DLINE men. Each guy may require a double team and the offense doesn't have enough blockers. EVEN IF they go double TE to assist, you hand cuff an opposing offense of extra WRs or RBs - TARGETS- because you have to dedicate your resources to keeping the QB alive or even a PRAYER of a crease as a running lane for RBs. It's sick. If only we had some good corners to pull that off. Oh, wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 That's why I think we play/show an occasional (and crazy) 5-1-5 A five man D front is ONE OLine assigned to block by himself EACH of our DLINE men. Each guy may require a double team and the offense doesn't have enough blockers. EVEN IF they go double TE to assist, you hand cuff an opposing offense of extra WRs or RBs - TARGETS- because you have to dedicate your resources to keeping the QB alive or even a PRAYER of a crease as a running lane for RBs. It's sick. Richardson/Wilkerson/Williams/Coples/Babin(or Pace) Davis Revis/Cro/Skrine/Gilcrist/Pryor something like that. You can't double team everyone up front. And the top 3 receiving targets are locked down by reliable cover corners. Allen is available to cover big TEs like Gronk too. Milliner is there too if he's healthy. Bowles and Kacy Rodgers must be salivating with all this talent. They can take away pretty much everything with this personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Richardson/Wilkerson/Williams/Coples/Babin(or Pace) Davis Revis/Cro/Skrine/Gilcrist/Pryor something like that. You can't double team everyone up front. And the top 3 receiving targets are locked down by reliable cover corners. Allen is available to cover big TEs like Gronk too. Milliner is there too if he's healthy. Bowles and Kacy Rodgers must be salivating with all this talent. They can take away pretty much everything with this personnel. My thoughts exactly. I also broke it down moreso in another thread of Wilkerson. Williams. Harrison. Richardson. Coples. Demario Davis Revis. Cro. Skrine Pryor Gilchrist You can sub in Harris or Pace for coverage on 2nd Down by just taking out Snacks and sliding in Coples Passing downs : take out Snacks. Kick in Coples. Babin or IK off the edge. Dime Backers Jarrett & Allen sub in to cover TEs and disguise coverages &'blitzes. THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Just had to laugh at this deluded Pats response at Pats*fan.com "Great news. Leonard Williams will BUST. Motor questions, no real pass rush moves, very raw. Veteran offensive linemen will take him to school." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 One hidden thing about Williams is not only is he the best player in the draft, he is also going into the best situation for him to develop to his full potential. He is extremely bright and hardworking, and will learn a ton from Wilk and Richardson. I do not think we trade Mo, I think we will resign him and can keep the trio for 5 years fairly easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Just happy the front office was true to their BPA philosophy and wasn't feeding us a load of bull ala Rex/Tanny. And yes Williams was the bpa, he was pretty much talked about as a top 3 player all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 One hidden thing about Williams is not only is he the best player in the draft, he is also going into the best situation for him to develop to his full potential. He is extremely bright and hardworking, and will learn a ton from Wilk and Richardson. I do not think we trade Mo, I think we will resign him and can keep the trio for 5 years fairly easily. The 20 year old kid has NO PRESSURE to produce and will have time to come into his own as he (GULP! Scary!) GROWS more into his body and the speed of the Pro level to MERELY COMPLIMENT the young veteran talent already on the DLine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Anyway the jets 3-4 front could consist of Rich/ Wilk / Williams? Perhaps Mo could play some NT? Just curious...hes about 315 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Just happy the front office was true to their BPA philosophy and wasn't feeding us a load of bull ala Rex/Tanny. And yes Williams was the bpa, he was pretty much talked about as a top 3 player all year. agreed its refreshing to have a real football guy running things. Idzik would of picked for need and Tanny would of probably traded up for a splash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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