Maxman Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I know we have a few threads on deflategate, but what I want to talk about here is Tom Brady and the hall of fame. A lot of people are saying that this means he certainly won't get in on his first year of eligibility? How long would he have to wait? How much will this cheating tarnish his records and legacy? Does spygate factor in to this at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 There's a typo in your subject. You wrote "Fame" instead of "Shame". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 my 2 cents is if he is suspended for 3 games or less and gives a jimmy swaggart like apology, everybody will forget about it and vote him in because they don't want to face the reality of what it would mean if they have been cheating since 2000 if he gets 8 games or more and denies it to his dying day, I don't see how you vote him in but not guys like a-rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Nevaaaaaaaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 my 2 cents is if he is suspended for 3 games or less and gives a jimmy swaggart like apology, everybody will forget about it and vote him in because they don't want to face the reality of what it would mean if they have been cheating since 2000 if he gets 8 games or more and denies it to his dying day, I don't see how you vote him in but not guys like a-rod How can he apologize now? The time has passed for that. He seems to be all in on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 How can he apologize now? The time has passed for that. He seems to be all in on this. the best part is belicheat will dump him like last weeks kraft skank if garropolo even goes .500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I know we have a few threads on deflategate, but what I want to talk about here is Tom Brady and the hall of fame. A lot of people are saying that this means he certainly won't get in on his first year of eligibility? How long would he have to wait? How much will this cheating tarnish his records and legacy? Does spygate factor in to this at all? Why is there 8 threads about Brady/Patriots on the front page of a Jets message board? To answer your question, Brady is a lock for 1st ballot HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I know we have a few threads on deflategate, but what I want to talk about here is Tom Brady and the hall of fame. A lot of people are saying that this means he certainly won't get in on his first year of eligibility? How long would he have to wait? How much will this cheating tarnish his records and legacy? Does spygate factor in to this at all? Tough question to answer without seeing Brady's full body of work. If he leads the Pats to another SB title or two, then he is a first ballot lock. If he suddenly turns into Billy Joe Hobert, then it's a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Why is there 8 threads about Brady/Patriots on the front page of a Jets message board? To answer your question, Brady is a lock for 1st ballot HOF. 8 threads about the Pats? There are 10 right now. You are as good at math as Bill Belichick is at science. And thanks for the 1st ballot prediction. PatsfanJINX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Tough question to answer without seeing Brady's full body of work. If he leads the Pats to another SB title or two, then he is a first ballot lock. If he suddenly turns into Billy Joe Hobert, then it's a different story. Good point. But he is 37 and his numbers this year will be down because he is going to miss half the year with the suspension lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strongman Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 His entire body of work is suspect. I don't see any reason he should be allowed in. It's exactly like you wouldn't let someone like Jack Nicklaus into the PGA HOF if he used non-conforming, illegal golfballs during his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 He'll get in on the first ballot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 His entire body of work is suspect. I don't see any reason he should be allowed in. It's exactly like you wouldn't let someone like Jack Nicklaus into the PGA HOF if he used non-conforming, illegal golfballs during his career. A 4 time SB winner is a LOCK.... But can they put an asterisk on his name? BRADY* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Brady is a hands-down 1st ballot HOFer. That is a fact despite how much it may irritate you as a Jets fan. The deflating ball scandal is being overanalyzed and wasn't material (IMO) in the outcome of the games. All this argumentation is just self aggravation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 A 4 time SB winner is a LOCK.... But can they put an asterisk on his name? BRADY* No The HOF does not care what Jets fans think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Brady is a hands-down 1st ballot HOFer. That is a fact despite how much it may irritate you as a Jets fan. The deflating ball scandal is being overanalyzed and wasn't material (IMO) in the outcome of the games. All this argumentation is just self aggravation. Note to self, never again lump all Jets fans together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Knowing the defense ahead of time, and using deflated balls is not my idea of a hall of famer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Knowing the defense ahead of time, and using deflated balls is not my idea of a hall of famer. I'm pretty sure that nobody on the HOF selection committee believes in the Spygate Tecmo Bowl theory though. If you don't want him in the Hall on the first ballot, you have to hope that there will be a wave of outrage about deflate gate among the journalists on the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Why is there 8 threads about Brady/Patriots on the front page of a Jets message board? To answer your question, Brady is a lock for 1st ballot HOF. Not anymore. Ask the greatest baseball player ever how cheating worked for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Why is there 8 threads about Brady/Patriots on the front page of a Jets message board? To answer your question, Brady is a lock for 1st ballot HOF. Why do you have 19000 posts on a Jets message board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Not anymore. Ask the greatest baseball player ever how cheating worked for him. Babe Ruth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'm pretty sure that nobody on the HOF selection committee believes in the Spygate Tecmo Bowl theory though. If you don't want him in the Hall on the first ballot, you have to hope that there will be a wave of outrage about deflate gate among the journalists on the committee. I agree. History does have a funny way of rewriting itself. The HOF is kind of a joke anyway. Real fans don't need the HOF to tell us how great a player or coach was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strongman Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Despite the NFL promoting him as one of the Golden Boys, Brady* and the Patriots* are hated everywhere in the country outside of New England. He's definitely not a lock for the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Despite the NFL promoting him as one of the Golden Boys, Brady* and the Patriots* are hated everywhere in the country outside of New England. He's definitely not a lock for the HOF. If the HOF vote was done via an ESPN.com SportsNation poll, you would probably be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 wasn't material (IMO) in the outcome of the games. there is a fumble rate spread sheet floating around this message board that begs to differ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'm pretty sure that nobody on the HOF selection committee believes in the Spygate Tecmo Bowl theory though. I was totally unaware that every single person on the HOF selection committee lives in new England. he is definitely a lock first ballot then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I was totally unaware that every single person on the HOF selection committee lives in new England. he is definitely a lock first ballot then I was totally unaware that New Jersey (Peter King), Washington (Mike Sando), Georgia (Len Pasquarelli), etc. are all in New England. Thanks for the geography lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaniec Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Why is there 8 threads about Brady/Patriots on the front page of a Jets message board? To answer your question, Brady is a lock for 1st ballot HOF. If it's not Brady, it's Rex Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Why is there 8 threads about Brady/Patriots on the front page of a Jets message board? To answer your question, Brady is a lock for 1st ballot HOF. Why is there a Pats* on a Jets forum? Oh, maybe cuz they're one of the biggest rivals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I was totally unaware that New Jersey (Peter King), Washington (Mike Sando), Georgia (Len Pasquarelli), etc. are all in New England. Thanks for the geography lesson. well, you got me there, sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 well, you got me there, sport. Ironically, the best chance at an anti-Brady voting bloc starts with the Massachusetts representative (Ron Borges), who despises Brady and Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 How about he plays 1 game without cheating so we can actually see if he is any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 The truth is that I am not sure how much all this effects Brady's HOF status but I can tell you right now Brady being considered as the GOAT is over!! I mean it is over.. No way in world can you put Brady over for example Joe Montana or Otto Graham IMO... Or even Roger Staubach or even Terry Bradshaw.. You don't ... No way I will ever accept this is the ONLY Cheating Brady ever did!! It is sickening............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Before all this he was surefire first ballot HOFer. But now i don't think so. Which sport would want it's HOFer to have been suspended for cheating. None. Not even Goodell can be that partial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gringo Loco Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Why is there 8 threads about Brady/Patriots on the front page of a Jets message board? To answer your question, Brady is a lock for 1st ballot HOF. Why do you have 19,168 posts on a Jets message board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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