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This is a GREAT article.  I am curious who the "source is". I am thinking either David Harris or Demario Davis.....  

 

 

Meet the anti-Rex.

 

Todd Bowles may be a first-year head coach and just a few months into the job, but already he has clearly defined himself and what his tenure with the New York Jets will look like. And that legacy is, in many ways, the polar opposite of the former head coach Rex Ryan, fired after six years with the Jets and four seasons without the postseason.

 

He's had experience on Sundays, eight seasons as a safety for three different teams, and plenty of time on an NFL sideline as a position coach, defensive coordinator and also as an interim head coach. He knows a locker room from the perspective of someone sitting on a stool with the pads and helmet on, to someone now addressing a team – his team – in his still, quiet way.

 

And now with the Jets, Bowles is putting his stamp on his team as he fully gets integrated into the job. Voluntary veterans minicamp is done, so to is rookie minicamp. The team is beginning to take shape and take root as the players vying to make this squad begin to get a sense about who he is as a man, as a head coach. That sense? That Bowles and Rex couldn't be further apart.

 

“He doesn't say much but what he says counts,” one player told Metro. The player didn't want his name used because, in his words, “I'm not into taking shots at Rex, who is a good man and a good coach. “Todd keeps it brief. He wants us to be men and act like men. He's not a 'rah-rah' guy. He gets his point across and then we go to work. It's different – very different – around here.”

 

The player, who has been a starter with the Jets the past several seasons, paints the picture of a locker room that, over the past year, began to tire of Ryan's routine. It isn't a bashing of their old coach, per se, just that he didn't fit this team anymore.

 

There was some significant “tuning out” of Ryan last year, the player said, as their old head coach was seen “more like a friend than a coach.” That hurt discipline and accountability, something that this player says won't be an issue under Bowles.

 

Already, those around the facility are noting the Bowles work ethic. He speaks softly, they say, but he's a workaholic.  For those who have been in this Jets locker room for awhile, the switch to Bowles couldn't be more stark. He isn't a man of many words and he isn't flashy but who Bowles is and how he presents himself is perhaps what this team needs now more than ever.

 

Over the past four years, the Jets have a combined 26-38 record with no playoff appearances over that span. It is a contrast to the two years before – Ryan's first two years with the Jets in 2009 and 2010 – when a veteran team twice went within a game of the Super Bowl. He went from a coaching genius to someone eventually fired by a team that idolized him and got their identity from him.

 

Not much changed about 'Rex' but what did change was his personnel. Ryan's shtick during those first two years was perfect for that team, a collection of veterans who were well-established and didn't need a strict head coach. But as his team got younger, his loosey-goosey style didn't work well.

 

“Again, I don't want to bash Rex, but sometimes it seemed like the rules weren't there,” the player said. “He was a player's coach that's for sure. But even that can go too far.”  Case in point last year when several players, including quarterback Geno Smith, were late to a team meeting in San Diego because they were at a movie. The consequences? There were none.

 

“Coach Bowles is very straightforward. He doesn't waste words,” another player told Metro by phone this week. “It's a change. You have to respect the man, he is very detail-oriented. He really spells things out. There is no shades of confusion with him. He spells it out. Our expectations, out itinerary. It's impressive.”  As of right now, the player said that there has been no slogan, no 'Play Like a Jet' moniker like the one that Ryan implemented in 2009. 

 

“With coach Bowles, I'm not sure that's important,” the second player said.

 

http://www.metro.us/sports/current-jets-players-todd-bowles-couldn-t-be-more-different-than-rex-ryan/zsJoen---t7M2ZkWwYgNY/

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“Coach Bowles is very straightforward. He doesn't waste words,” another player told Metro by phone this week. “It's a change. You have to respect the man, he is very detail-oriented. He really spells things out. There is no shades of confusion with him. He spells it out. Our expectations, out itinerary. It's impressive.”

 

I can't imagine Rex in the locker room just not shutting up while addressing a team with two wins.

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Excited to see what Bowles can do as HC of the NYJ. I'm not gonna bash Rex either and I'm appreciative of the playoff runs under his watch, but it was time to move on....and I think we moved on to the right guy.

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Time will tell but everything I've seen and heard about Bowles is

exactly what this team needed:

 

- Quiet

- More concerned about work than generating quotes

- Detail oriented

- Vision for the entire team

- Accountability

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Fast forward 5 or 6 years and we will be reading about how the next guy is a much more thorough communicator and nothing is left unsaid. As a Jet fan, I read this same article every four or five years.

 

Why so pessimistic? Some of you fans are just brutal.

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Fast forward 5 or 6 years and we will be reading about how the next guy is a much more thorough communicator and nothing is left unsaid. As a Jet fan, I read this same article every four or five years.

Are you Justin McCairens?  Your moniker would suggest so.

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Fast forward 5 or 6 years and we will be reading about how the next guy is a much more thorough communicator and nothing is left unsaid. As a Jet fan, I read this same article every four or five years.

Here and with other teams. Pats players were thrilled with the laid back PCarrol after Parcells. Loved the change, loved that they were now treated like men and as men soul police themselves..

Then loved the more stern Belichick who added discipline and accountability.

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Fast forward 5 or 6 years and we will be reading about how the next guy is a much more thorough communicator and nothing is left unsaid. As a Jet fan, I read this same article every four or five years.

 

If you are a typical SOJF that finds  the negative in every story, why even bother opening this thread? You are the kind of guy that would have found a negative spin to anything posted. 

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If someone wants to be unhappy, that is his right.  The only possible solution for this is to cease all reporting or never fire a coach.

This is true.  I just don't how you go through life with such negative expectations...  I mean why even bother getting out of bed in the morning, lol. 

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“Coach Bowles is very straightforward. He doesn't waste words,” another player told Metro by phone this week. “It's a change. You have to respect the man, he is very detail-oriented. He really spells things out. There is no shades of confusion with him. He spells it out. Our expectations, out itinerary. It's impressive.”

 

I can't imagine Rex in the locker room just not shutting up while addressing a team with two wins.

 

 

 

Isn't Rex's new custom painted truck named "Shades Of Confusion"?  

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Rex grew up around football players as a young boy when he tagged around his father. We can be sure that he idolized players and loved being around them and being part of the moment. For a kid, that is heady stuff.

 

And that is the way Rex treated players as a coach-Wanting to be their buddy and get along. Don't rock the boat, it may affect how that player thinks of you.

 

Bowles comes from the player fraternity and does not have to think he needs to "fit in". 

 

Glad to be done with Rex

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Wow! A lot of guys got really butt hurt that I pointed out that this article is recycled everytime a new coach is hired.  I like Bowles, too but I am not going to pretend like he has reinvented the wheel as far as how to treat players.  

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Wow! A lot of guys got really butt hurt that I pointed out that this article is recycled everytime a new coach is hired.  I like Bowles, too but I am not going to pretend like he has reinvented the wheel as far as how to treat players.  

"butt hurt"? No we just noticed your focus was negative and didn't even deal with what the players were actually saying.  But that's okay you can rationalize it anyway you want. 

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Fast forward 5 or 6 years and we will be reading about how the next guy is a much more thorough communicator and nothing is left unsaid. As a Jet fan, I read this same article every four or five years.

This isn't really that negative or that unreasonable.

 

New coaches bring change, and change is typically good.  When the new coach is good / has some redeeming qualities, the team will play well for a couple of years.  It takes a great coach (or a great QB) for a team to play well for an extended period of time.

 

Bowles seems to at least be a good coach.  I expect we'll have at least a couple of good years.  Whether or not he's a great coach - well, that remains to be seen.

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Fast forward 5 or 6 years and we will be reading about how the next guy is a much more thorough communicator and nothing is left unsaid. As a Jet fan, I read this same article every four or five years.

Parcells/groh - tough

Herm - softy

Mangini - tough

Rex- softy

Bowles - tough

Why does reality always get mixed up with negativity?

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This is true. I just don't how you go through life with such negative expectations... I mean why even bother getting out of bed in the morning, lol.

You can be negative about a team that hasnt won a thing since 1969 and be very positive in other aspects of your life. If you dont have negativity towards the jets, you just have battered wife syndrome.

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Parcells/groh - tough

Herm - softy

Mangini - tough

Rex- softy

Bowles - tough

Why does reality always get mixed up with negativity?

 

With all due respect Joe W., If that is all you got from the article, you might want to read it again.  It is not about being tough, but the attention to detail; focusing on whats important and whats not (hint: being a media darling), holding players accountable, coaching the entire team (not just the defense) and more.   We don't know how that will translate into wins and losses because it is only May but it is a good a reason to be optimistic NOW instead of worrying about what we will doing 5 years from now if we have new coach. 

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The interesting thing to me is the all-business, not rah-rah thing.  Typically the taskmasters are "all business" "no nonsense" but Mangini was full of nonsense.  That whole memorize all the other players/ballboys and recite their names sh*t.  Rex seemed like the type that would be a rah rah, run through that wall for me type, but nobody really complained about that stuff. 

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You can be negative about a team that hasnt won a thing since 1969 and be very positive in other aspects of your life. If you dont have negativity towards the jets, you just have battered wife syndrome.

I don't have any negativity toward THIS REGIME because they are not responsible for what happened since 1969.  See how that works? 

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The interesting thing to me is the all-business, not rah-rah thing.  Typically the taskmasters are "all business" "no nonsense" but Mangini was full of nonsense.  That whole memorize all the other players/ballboys and recite their names sh*t.  Rex seemed like the type that would be a rah rah, run through that wall for me type, but nobody really complained about that stuff. 

Yeah and another thing is while Bowles is not some one to play to the camera like Rex, he isn't shy and when he does talk, actually has something to say (unlike Mangini).   He has some Parcells in him that way. 

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Yeah and another thing is while Bowles is not some one to play to the camera like Rex, he isn't shy and when he does talk, actually has something to say (unlike Mangini).   He has some Parcells in him that way. 

 

 

You guys keep comparing him to Parcells and you are going to make me hate him. 

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This isn't really that negative or that unreasonable.

 

New coaches bring change, and change is typically good.  When the new coach is good / has some redeeming qualities, the team will play well for a couple of years.  It takes a great coach (or a great QB) for a team to play well for an extended period of time.

 

Bowles seems to at least be a good coach.  I expect we'll have at least a couple of good years.  Whether or not he's a great coach - well, that remains to be seen.

 

True but can't we just enjoy where we are IN THE MOMENT without worrying about the FUTURE and if he is the next Lombardi or not?   I mean why should worry about 5 or 6 years from now before the guy even coaches his first game?   For all we know we could win a Superbowl in the next 5 or 6 years; why assume we won't? 

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You guys keep comparing him to Parcells and you are going to make me hate him. 

Sorry lol I am only talking about some aspects of how he handles the media.  I am sure he probably learned a few things from Bill in the past.

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Parcells/groh - tough

Herm - softy

Mangini - tough

Rex- softy

Bowles - tough

Why does reality always get mixed up with negativity?

 

Best example of this was the Bob Lemon/Billy Martin Yankees.  When the team stopped responding to one, hire the other.  They were probably still drawing salary from the team anyway.

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Rex is a great marketer. He's an okay coach.

 

Bowles has the chance to be a great coach. Let's hope the team can live up to the articles.

 

If they do, then we can stop calling him the "anti-Rex" and just call him "coach Bowles" maybe?

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You can be negative about a team that hasnt won a thing since 1969 and be very positive in other aspects of your life. If you dont have negativity towards the jets, you just have battered wife syndrome.

 

Or it could just be that I'm not a loser SOJF that lives in his mom's basement at 50 years of age. You ever hear the term "cautious optimism"? Try it some time, maybe you'll actually go somewhere with your pathetic life instead of posting negative garbage on here all the time.

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Or it could just be that I'm not a loser SOJF that lives in his mom's basement at 50 years of age. You ever hear the term "cautious optimism"? Try it some time, maybe you'll actually go somewhere with your pathetic life instead of posting negative garbage on here all the time.

 

Grandmother?

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