Morrissey Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 The extra point rule for 2015 just changed. Snap for kick from the 15-yard line, 2-pt try stays at 2-yard line and defense can return. — Dean Blandino (@DeanBlandino) May 19, 2015 @DeanBlandino The extra point rule for 2015 just changed. Snap for kick from the 15-yard line, 2-pt try stays at 2-yard line and defense can return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Pumped up to watch 20 different games get lost by teams trying to make up for a missed extra point in the second quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 What does that make the FG attempt then? A 517 yarder? #CompetitionNotAdvertisingOpps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsHex Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 How many points is it if the defense returns a 2pt attempt? 2 pts? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 How many points is it if the defense returns a 2pt attempt? 2 pts? Lol Or a blocked XP attempt. This actually adds some value to special teams play. After the last round of rule changes the only thing that mattered on specials was having a punter. Now teams can actually gain advantage by being better on XP plays. I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 So it's a 32 yarder? Great. New ways for the Jets to **** up and lose are always fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Missed PATs will actually be a thing now. Won't happen often, but enough. Kickoffs remain a problem. They used to be a potential equalizer, now it's the most boring part of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 NFL changes PAT rule for 2015 NFL 28m The ball will be snapped from the 15-yard line and 2-point tries will stay at the 2-yard line. If the kick is blocked or the 2-point try is fumbled or intercepted, the defense can return the ball back to the opposite end zone for 2 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm not a big fan of this rule change for a few reasons. 1) A PAT should be almost "automatic." That's the way it was designed. Unfortunately, the kicker just became an even bigger factor in the game of football. 2) An extra layer/step of officiating has just been introduced. Now, after a team scores a TD, the referee must confer with the scoring team and ask where the ball should be spotted. Who does the referee ask? The head coach? What if the head coach decides to change his mind before the play has been executed? 3) The element of surprise in going for two points (audible, botched snap, fake FG) has been eliminated. More complexity, more officiating, and more important kickers. It's not the end of the world, but why fix something that's not broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Good, I like it... should be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 It was a simple game, then Robert Kraft got involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1958 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 My biggest issue is the elimination of a surprise 2 pointer although it rarely occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 It does what they want: it makes the play more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm not a big fan of this rule change for a few reasons. 1) A PAT should be almost "automatic." That's the way it was designed. Unfortunately, the kicker just became an even bigger factor in the game of football. 2) An extra layer/step of officiating has just been introduced. Now, after a team scores a TD, the referee must confer with the scoring team and ask where the ball should be spotted. Who does the referee ask? The head coach? What if the head coach decides to change his mind before the play has been executed? 3) The element of surprise in going for two points (audible, botched snap, fake FG) has been eliminated. More complexity, more officiating, and more important kickers. It's not the end of the world, but why fix something that's not broken? ^This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 DoubleDown, on 19 May 2015 - 6:55 PM, said\] :I'm not a big fan of this rule change for a few reasons. 1) A PAT should be almost "automatic." That's the way it was designed. Unfortunately, the kicker just became an even bigger factor in the game of football. 2) An extra layer/step of officiating has just been introduced. Now, after a team scores a TD, the referee must confer with the scoring team and ask where the ball should be spotted. Who does the referee ask? The head coach? What if the head coach decides to change his mind before the play has been executed? 3) The element of surprise in going for two points (audible, botched snap, fake FG) has been eliminated. More complexity, more officiating, and more important kickers. It's not the end of the world, but why fix something that's not broken? ^This ^Double Down on this "THIS"!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 GOOD Kickers going get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm not a big fan of this rule change for a few reasons. 1) A PAT should be almost "automatic." That's the way it was designed. Unfortunately, the kicker just became an even bigger factor in the game of football. 2) An extra layer/step of officiating has just been introduced. Now, after a team scores a TD, the referee must confer with the scoring team and ask where the ball should be spotted. Who does the referee ask? The head coach? What if the head coach decides to change his mind before the play has been executed? 3) The element of surprise in going for two points (audible, botched snap, fake FG) has been eliminated. More complexity, more officiating, and more important kickers. It's not the end of the world, but why fix something that's not broken? Because Roger Goodell wanted it this way. The ironic part is that teams worked really hard to make that a "safe" automatic play. Now teams will be trying to disrupt the kick adding more opportunity for injury, in addition to a possible extra play at the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I like it. I like that it takes mundane plays that everyone takes for granted, and creates consequence in removing the 'automatic' aspect. This is one change tvat makes the game more interesting. Not change for the sake of change. No logic against it, other than traditionalism, which I get but don't really care about in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I find that I don't really care much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Because Roger Goodell wanted it this way. The ironic part is that teams worked really hard to make that a "safe" automatic play. Now teams will be trying to disrupt the kick adding more opportunity for injury, in addition to a possible extra play at the goal line. Opportunity for injury is equal on every play. No logic in this whiny argument. Every play should matter BECAUSE the risk of injury is constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 GOOD Kickers going get paid. This. It makes special teams relevant again, after the kickoff rule pretty much phased them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 So it's a 32 yarder? Great. New ways for the Jets to **** up and lose are always fun. Nick Folk wont miss a PAT. I wish they just gave the option of an automatic 1 point, or a 2-pt attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm not a big fan of this rule change for a few reasons. 1) A PAT should be almost "automatic." That's the way it was designed. Unfortunately, the kicker just became an even bigger factor in the game of football. 2) An extra layer/step of officiating has just been introduced. Now, after a team scores a TD, the referee must confer with the scoring team and ask where the ball should be spotted. Who does the referee ask? The head coach? What if the head coach decides to change his mind before the play has been executed? 3) The element of surprise in going for two points (audible, botched snap, fake FG) has been eliminated. More complexity, more officiating, and more important kickers. It's not the end of the world, but why fix something that's not broken? Why should it be automatic? Just make touchdowns 7 points and skip the PAT. If you're going to have kickers, no reason why they shouldn't play a part of the outcome of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 No more fake kick extra points. I would have rather it gone the other way, with both kicks and 2 point attemps from the 1 yard line. The pat would still be basically automatic, but 2 point tries would most likely go way up, and the possibility of fakes would remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Tim Tebow and the pistol offense will rule 2pt conversions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Opportunity for injury is equal on every play. No logic in this whiny argument. Every play should matter BECAUSE the risk of injury is constant. Teams worked hard to make it an extremely safe play reducing injury by a wide margin. Mr. Player Safety Commissioner just increased the odds. I don't really care about the rule change, just find that ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm not a big fan of this rule change for a few reasons. 1) A PAT should be almost "automatic." That's the way it was designed. Unfortunately, the kicker just became an even bigger factor in the game of football. 2) An extra layer/step of officiating has just been introduced. Now, after a team scores a TD, the referee must confer with the scoring team and ask where the ball should be spotted. Who does the referee ask? The head coach? What if the head coach decides to change his mind before the play has been executed? 3) The element of surprise in going for two points (audible, botched snap, fake FG) has been eliminated. More complexity, more officiating, and more important kickers. It's not the end of the world, but why fix something that's not broken? 1. I agree. See my last post above. 2. Good point. I assume refs will take the ball to the 15 yard line unless informed otherwise to remove that unnecessary step. 3. Surprise 2point attempt is rare. Almost rare to the point of once in a year or two. I don't remember the last time I saw a fake attempt. Botched snap means its a botched play anyways. You messed up means you messed up. 4. It was broken. how many times do you watch the 1 point attempt like a normal play? This puts some emphasis on the play and not just a time wasting 40+ seconds, several times a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Can you run a fake and go for 2 from the 15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 No more fake kick extra points. I would have rather it gone the other way, with both kicks and 2 point attemps from the 1 yard line. The pat would still be basically automatic, but 2 point tries would most likely go way up, and the possibility of fakes would remain. When was the last time you saw a fake PAT attempt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Tim Tebow and the pistol offense will rule 2pt conversions! That's another point, teams might want to start thinking about dressing a big running goal line QB for those situations. Have the extra blocker on the field. Chip Kelly is really just a step ahead of the rest of the leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Can you run a fake and go for 2 from the 15? Last time you saw a fake was....2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Why should it be automatic? Just make touchdowns 7 points and skip the PAT. If you're going to have kickers, no reason why they shouldn't play a part of the outcome of a game. For strictly purist reasons. It was designed to be automatic from the very beginning when the objective of the game flipped from kicking field goals to scoring touchdowns. Kickers have plenty of influence on the game already. I just don't see the need to increase it even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 DoubleDown, on 19 May 2015 - 6:55 PM, said\] :I'm not a big fan of this rule change for a few reasons. 1) A PAT should be almost "automatic." That's the way it was designed. Unfortunately, the kicker just became an even bigger factor in the game of football. 2) An extra layer/step of officiating has just been introduced. Now, after a team scores a TD, the referee must confer with the scoring team and ask where the ball should be spotted. Who does the referee ask? The head coach? What if the head coach decides to change his mind before the play has been executed? 3) The element of surprise in going for two points (audible, botched snap, fake FG) has been eliminated. More complexity, more officiating, and more important kickers. It's not the end of the world, but why fix something that's not broken? ^Double Down on this "THIS"!! Biggest issue. Making the kicker more valuable. Seems like that's the last thing the league would want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Last time you saw a fake was....2006. Sorry just writing a paper on rules the Patriots will attempt to exploit or pervert in 2015 and need to finish my research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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