Integrity28 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Is that like Mangenius? You haven't made it as a Jet until you have a nickname competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyshuler Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I like what Mac has done so far. But this is a reach. Things have slowed down significantly since draft. Hiring a scout doesn't change that. Seriously. Falling in love with a GM before we even played a single pre season snap. I hope its all roses, but man I remember all the in Idzick I trust crap, the Mr. T nonsense..... Even keel would be nice, just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 He has a Wikipedia page. I guess that's a good thing. That should really be a requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 That should really be a requirement. I'm a certified Wikipedia editor, would you like a page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 It's no miracle. He did have a ton of cap space to begin with. It's not like every signing he has made has been close to fair value. Either the GM has performed miracles and with very little cap space signed a boatload of great players at bargain basement prices OR those morons leaving the negative votes have to stop fellating the new GM and face reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'm a certified Wikipedia editor, would you like a page? I don't need one for me personally. But JetNation should have a page I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Seriously. Falling in love with a GM before we even played a single pre season snap. I hope its all roses, but man I remember all the in Idzick I trust crap, the Mr. T nonsense..... Even keel would be nice, just saying I'm thinking Maccagnan should lead the team out of the tunnel on opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'm thinking Maccagnan should lead the team out of the tunnel on opening day Now that he has ensured his enshrinement in Canton.... Let's see if he can make all the throws! Give him a jersey and let's see what he can do. He can be the final piece of the puzzle. And you know he'll control the huddle 'cause he'll fire your ass if you don't listen up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Who the eff are you ? If i want you to take a cheap shot at me, I will let you know. Till then GFY! The money does not come out of my pocket. Only reason i point out stupid decisions are because i would like the JETS to win it all ONCE in my lifetime. Period. calm down everyone. It's only the World Wide Web Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'm super excited about this person I've never heard of and know nothing about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Gissendanner and Heimerdinger should film a buddy comedy together. Or have their kids get married and hyphenate one of the name. Charlotte Gissendanner-Hermerdinger. LOL Uh...How do you spell that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'm super excited about this person I've never heard of and know nothing about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Spoken like a true man whore. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'm super excited about this person I've never heard of and know nothing about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really. Maccagnan, more than other GMs, should probably get a little more benefit of the doubt here. He's a scout, these guys are scouts. They all know each other, see (saw) each other often, spoke of and scouted the same players at the same time. Maccagnan surely knows which scouts (which available scouts) share common opinions or look at/look for the same things, both good and bad, in a prospect. Likewise the same with the Jets' outgoing scouts that weren't retained. He may not have seen or liked the same things they did while at the same players' pro days, which is a polite way of saying he thought they sucked: that they saw a lot of things that aren't there in players, or failed to see what Mac believed to be right in front of their eyes. Presumably the opposite with regard to the new guys he just hired. But since most are going by the success of the teams those others worked for, rather than knowledge (that Mac has) of which specific prospects they liked/hated before their success or failure? Yeah the reactions are mostly a bit ridiculous. I see it as more of a positive because our rooted-in-scouting GM knows them more than because of the successes of these guys' former teams. I mean, I'll bet every scout for Seattle wasn't banging on the table to draft Russell Wilson lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets782 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Well, at least you resisted going on your usual Brandon Marshall tirade. That's an improvement. Shocker that he's fighting with people again! That never happens! He's usually so rational and thoughtful. Must be some kind of odd obsession coupled with the misplaced theory that he who dies with the most cap space wins. I am one of the legions who have utilized the "ignore" feature but we are subjected to the nonsense when others quote him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyshuler Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'm thinking Maccagnan should lead the team out of the tunnel on opening day. Yeah shirtless! Hear he's massive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Besides Revis back to where he belongs removing Bradway was just as good of a move. I defended the Bradway/Tanny combo until it became obvious it wasn't working yet he was still there with JI! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 JFID is an angry, angry person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 We have no idea how competent this guy is - so yeah overboard with congrats to the Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 JFID is an angry, angry person. sorry to interrupt your fellation of Macgag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 fellation...macgag. Have to admit those two words in the sentence made me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 At the end of the day we needed scouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I don't need one for me personally. But JetNation should have a page I think. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 sorry to interrupt your fellation of Macgag. I think there's a new musical coming out called Jalen Strong, Superstar. Devin Smith said he'll buy JetsFogyinDenver two tickets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 It still makes me cry when I think of what Magic Mike could have done with all of Idzik's picks. Had he been here a year earlier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Mac had a butload of money to spend and he spent it, not necessarily in the wisest manner (Skrine and Cro? but no Mo). He had a top five draft pick in which the best player in the draft fell into his lap. He had a decent draft, but he did a bit of reaching as well (Mauldin) and had a few head scratchers (Petty, Simon..a DT). Now we're happy-dancing over the fact that he picked up a few regional scouts from other teams? Really? Truth is, Mac has done a lot to improve the squad. Now we have to see how he manages it. We have to see how his picks contribute. Was Devin Smith a better decision than J. Strong? Was Mauldin a better pick at three than Harold? Was Bryce Petty even necessary? Is Jarvis Harrison a sleeper or is he just a big dude with no real motor? Why on earth did we draft two DT's in this draft...Dion Simon? Really? Anointing Mac the savior before the team has taken the field for a single full practice is premature at the least. There are lots of changes and lots of moving parts to assess this season. Mac is going to have his hands full. Lets see how he does. Then, if the Jets break even or better, we can throw a party in his honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Mac had a butload of money to spend and he spent it, not necessarily in the wisest manner (Skrine and Cro? but no Mo). He had a top five draft pick in which the best player in the draft fell into his lap. He had a decent draft, but he did a bit of reaching as well (Mauldin) and had a few head scratchers (Petty, Simon..a DT). Now we're happy-dancing over the fact that he picked up a few regional scouts from other teams? Really? Truth is, Mac has done a lot to improve the squad. Now we have to see how he manages it. We have to see how his picks contribute. Was Devin Smith a better decision than J. Strong? Was Mauldin a better pick at three than Harold? Was Bryce Petty even necessary? Is Jarvis Harrison a sleeper or is he just a big dude with no real motor? Why on earth did we draft two DT's in this draft...Dion Simon? Really? Anointing Mac the savior before the team has taken the field for a single full practice is premature at the least. There are lots of changes and lots of moving parts to assess this season. Mac is going to have his hands full. Lets see how he does. Then, if the Jets break even or better, we can throw a party in his honor. Rather than try to nitpick a small piece or two ... I'll just say this is a well thought out and stated post. I will also say that Mac hasn't done anything to really upset most of us yet ... And he had made some moves to really get us excited (Bowles , Revis, Marshall). I do agree he's still got his hands full and needs to continue well ... He has come out of the starting gate in good position though ... With what we've rooted for in the past ... That is a nice step in the right direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 maccagnan is a workoholic, if you read between the lines of some of his comments he thought the jets scouting dept was more or less lazy the kid was promoted by ron wolf, that's good enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Mac had a butload of money to spend and he spent it, not necessarily in the wisest manner (Skrine and Cro? but no Mo). He had a top five draft pick in which the best player in the draft fell into his lap. He had a decent draft, but he did a bit of reaching as well (Mauldin) and had a few head scratchers (Petty, Simon..a DT). Now we're happy-dancing over the fact that he picked up a few regional scouts from other teams? Really? Truth is, Mac has done a lot to improve the squad. Now we have to see how he manages it. We have to see how his picks contribute. Was Devin Smith a better decision than J. Strong? Was Mauldin a better pick at three than Harold? Was Bryce Petty even necessary? Is Jarvis Harrison a sleeper or is he just a big dude with no real motor? Why on earth did we draft two DT's in this draft...Dion Simon? Really? Anointing Mac the savior before the team has taken the field for a single full practice is premature at the least. There are lots of changes and lots of moving parts to assess this season. Mac is going to have his hands full. Lets see how he does. Then, if the Jets break even or better, we can throw a party in his honor. Skrine and Cro were upgrades, Mo would have been premature. He had a top six pick, not top five and it took balls to take a guy that was an apparent non-need who was hands down BPA. He had an outstanding draft by all accounts, including Mauldin as an excellent fit, the recovery of a fourth to take a potential solid QB for the future (yes, that was necessary), not to mention spending what was essentially a high sixth on Marshall (when you calculate the entire process), grabbing an excellent developmental prospect in Harrison, and taking Devin Smith, who fit our WR unit better than Strong. You fail to mention Revis and Fitz as well. The only deal I would quibble with was Harris, but not much. And there's money left over. While I would agree that you can't judge the outcome of all these actions I don't think it's a stretch to say that he addressed every need within his power and used the money extremely well. If there had been franchise QB out there to deal for, we might be talking a different scheme, but there wasn't. I'll throw the party right now for what he did in real time, since none of us are seers. He did an outstanding job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I think there's a new musical coming out called Jalen Strong, Superstar. Devin Smith said he'll buy JetsFogyinDenver two tickets... Middle school called, it wants it's humor back. Think about it, maybe you are still in middle school. That would explain a lot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 This is the most comprehensive offseason I've ever seen regarding the Jets. Think about 2009. We move up to draft a QB that started like 17 games at USC but we didn't even sign a veteran QB to back him up? Just plain STUPID! A veteran QB might have gotten the Jets to a Superbowl in one of those years with that defense & Oline. But I digress. Did he overpay for Cro? I say yes, but we have the money. Did he overpay for Harris? Absolutely, but there is something to be said about rewarding a guy that has been nothing but a hard working professional who gives everything to the organization. But, none of these contracts will hurt the Jets long term because of the way they were structured. We drafted a stud Dlineman, did we need him? Well, I'm already seeing that we might have trouble signing Mo or maybe Richardson in the future. Who knows? Mac hedged his bet by lucking into the best player in the draft on most boards. Devin Smith was a HUGE need. We already had 2 possession WRs & Kerley in the slot so we bring in a guy that can go from zero to 100 in an instant & take the top off the defense & get this, EVERY scout says he's TREMENDOUS at tracking the long ball. Mauldin was a huge need, Harris is on his last legs. Drafting DTs? Of course, Snacks might be hard to sign. At some point I'm sure the decision will be Mo or Snacks? Or Sheldon or Snacks? No f*cking brainer! See ya Snacks, I hope Simon can play. We signed a back veteran QB in Fitzy. Forget the fact that he's a vet, he's also incredibly smart, and he is familiar with Chan Gailey & can mentor Geno along the way. Even Lattimore & Henderson were good "under the radar" signings. He also did well in bringing in a couple highly sought after UDFAs. Very excited about Mac. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 maccagnan is a workoholic, if you read between the lines of some of his comments he thought the jets scouting dept was more or less lazy the kid was promoted by ron wolf, that's good enough for me I'm hoping this guy can help us find middle round WR talent like those listed below! Packers WR corp is the equivalent of our DL depth! Talent from 1-6 on the positional depth chart Already stacked with Jordy Nelson, Cobb and promising second-year wideout Davante Adams, the Packers have the luxury of breaking Montgomery in as a playmaking kick-return specialist with a few package plays on offense. Over the past ten years, Packers general manager Ted Thompson has drafted Adams, Cobb, Nelson, James Jones and Greg Jennings in the second and third rounds without a single early-round whiff at the position. That track record obviously bodes well for Montgomery's future in Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Mac also got Stacey from the Rams and a WR from the Texans as part of this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Mac also got Stacey from the Rams and a WR from the Texans as part of this draft. Yup. But Posey is by definition no good and Stacey is worthless. And Marshall is ancient and Skrine is a chump and Cro has too many kids. And I should mention that Petty will amount to nothing, Fitz has a beard, and Geno... well, that's a thread in itself, Williams was a waste pick, Mauldin is a sob story but too slow, Ridley is fumble machine, Ferguson is over the hill, Revis is greedy, Richardson is greedy, Harris is overpaid, Smith is a one-trick pony, Pryor is a bust, Coples is a bust, Milliner is a bust, McDougle is a nobody, and Bowles has no experience as a head coach. I won't even mention McCag or Woody. All in all, our doom and gloom club has been very active. I'm sure I missed a few, but our SOJF's will fill them in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Skrine and Cro were upgrades, Mo would have been premature. He had a top six pick, not top five and it took balls to take a guy that was an apparent non-need who was hands down BPA. He had an outstanding draft by all accounts, including Mauldin as an excellent fit, the recovery of a fourth to take a potential solid QB for the future (yes, that was necessary), not to mention spending what was essentially a high sixth on Marshall (when you calculate the entire process), grabbing an excellent developmental prospect in Harrison, and taking Devin Smith, who fit our WR unit better than Strong. You fail to mention Revis and Fitz as well. The only deal I would quibble with was Harris, but not much. And there's money left over. While I would agree that you can't judge the outcome of all these actions I don't think it's a stretch to say that he addressed every need within his power and used the money extremely well. If there had been franchise QB out there to deal for, we might be talking a different scheme, but there wasn't. I'll throw the party right now for what he did in real time, since none of us are seers. He did an outstanding job. Good post. All you can judge about Maccagnan is that on paper he upgraded this team - without a doubt. Plus he had a well though out free agency plan and a well managed draft - always good to get depth over need in draft- never know when someone gets injured or holds out plus you have to develop talent. The Jets still have a tenuous QB situation but now have a solid back up who knows the system and a developmental QB. Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I'm glad we've had our first real regime change since 2001 when Parcells and his guys left. Everyone wants to argue Mangini vs. Rex - it's been mostly Bradway and his flunkies running the FO last 15 years and the results have been mixed to put it kindly. Way too many non-factor players being drafted in the 3rd round and later. Look at Seattle how well they draft in the late rounds or Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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