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Maccagnan Strikes Again! (Plucking scouts from the Packers)


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I'm hoping this guy can help us find middle round WR talent like those listed below!

Packers WR corp is the equivalent of our DL depth! Talent from 1-6 on the positional  depth chart

 

 

Already stacked with Jordy Nelson, Cobb and promising second-year wideout Davante Adams, the Packers have the luxury of breaking Montgomery in as a playmaking kick-return specialist with a few package plays on offense.

Over the past ten years, Packers general manager Ted Thompson has drafted Adams, Cobb, Nelson, James Jones and Greg Jennings in the second and third rounds without a single early-round whiff at the position. That track record obviously bodes well for Montgomery's future in Green Bay.

 

good point !  its nice to have a GM who doesn't ignore the WR position

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Skrine and Cro were upgrades, Mo would have been premature. He had a top six pick, not top five and it took balls to take a guy that was an apparent non-need who was hands down BPA. He had an outstanding draft by all accounts, including Mauldin as an excellent fit, the recovery of a fourth to take a potential solid QB for the future (yes, that was necessary), not to mention spending what was essentially a high sixth on Marshall (when you calculate the entire process), grabbing an excellent developmental prospect in Harrison, and taking Devin Smith, who fit our WR unit better than Strong. You fail to mention Revis and Fitz as well. The only deal I would quibble with was Harris, but not much. And there's money left over. While I would agree that you can't judge the outcome of all these actions I don't think it's a stretch to say that he addressed every need within his power and used the money extremely well. If there had been  franchise QB out there to deal for, we might be talking a different scheme, but there wasn't. I'll throw the party right now for what he did in real time, since none of us are seers. He did an outstanding job.

I totally agree with your post, and I would further add, though I agree with the Harris deal in regards to salary, we still got to keep our guy who would have probably ended up with the Bills. Yeah the price was high, but he would have been the best MLB by far in FA yet we were able to keep him instead of creating a hole at one of the most important positions of our defense by either replacing him with someone less efficient or drafting a rookie and immediately starting him. When you have the amount of cash that we had available I think the right thing to do is to sign the guy that you know, and you know what he will bring to the table.

 

 

We all know that Harris is a lock for 100-120 tackles. Dude had arguably his best season last year from a statistical standpoint. 

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Mac had a butload of money to spend and he spent it, not necessarily in the wisest manner (Skrine and Cro? but no Mo). He had a top five draft pick in which the best player in the draft fell into his lap. He had a decent draft, but he did a bit of reaching as well (Mauldin) and had a few head scratchers (Petty, Simon..a DT). Now we're happy-dancing over the fact that he picked up a few regional scouts from other teams? Really? Truth is, Mac has done a lot to improve the squad. Now we have to see how he manages it. We have to see how his picks contribute. Was Devin Smith a better decision than J. Strong? Was Mauldin a better pick at three than Harold? Was Bryce Petty even necessary? Is Jarvis Harrison a sleeper or is he just a big dude with no real motor? Why on earth did we draft two DT's in this draft...Dion Simon? Really? Anointing Mac the savior before the team has taken the field for a single full practice is premature at the least. There are lots of changes and lots of moving parts to assess this season. Mac is going to have his hands full. Lets see how he does. Then, if the Jets break even or better, we can throw a party in his honor.

Your negativity disgusts me.

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Yup. But Posey is by definition no good and Stacey is worthless. And Marshall is ancient and Skrine is a chump and Cro has too many kids. And I should mention that Petty will amount to nothing, Fitz has a beard, and Geno... well, that's a thread in itself, Williams was a waste pick, Mauldin is a sob story but too slow, Ridley is fumble machine, Ferguson is over the hill, Revis is greedy, Richardson is greedy, Harris is overpaid, Smith is a one-trick pony, Pryor is a bust, Coples is a bust, Milliner is a bust, McDougle is a nobody, and Bowles has no experience as a head coach. I won't even mention McCag or Woody. All in all, our doom and gloom club has been very active. I'm sure I missed a few, but our SOJF's will fill them in...

Thank you!!!

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We have no idea how competent this guy is - so yeah overboard with congrats to the Mac

If a rookie QB throws a nice long TD pass we can say it was awesome and a great job can't we? Or do we have to keep our mouths shut and wait 5 years to see if the pass was a good one?

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JFID clearly has deep-rooted psychological issues. Very pessimistic and angry at the world. Lack of confidence in himself and his favorite team.  Perhaps he grew up without a father figure in his life? Maybe he was picked on a lot as a kid? A question for the philosophers, indeed.

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Mac had a butload of money to spend and he spent it, not necessarily in the wisest manner (Skrine and Cro? but no Mo).  He had a top five draft pick in which the best player in the draft fell into his lap.  He had a decent draft, but he did a bit of reaching as well (Mauldin) and had a few head scratchers (Petty, Simon..a DT).  Now we're happy-dancing over the fact that he picked up a few regional scouts from other teams?  Really?  Truth is, Mac has done a lot to improve the squad.  Now we have to see how he manages it.  We have to see how his picks contribute.  Was Devin Smith a better decision than J. Strong?  Was Mauldin a better pick at three than Harold? Was Bryce Petty even necessary?  Is Jarvis Harrison a sleeper or is he just a big dude with no real motor?  Why on earth did we draft two DT's in this draft...Dion Simon?  Really?  Anointing Mac the savior before the team has taken the field for a single full practice is premature at the least.  There are lots of changes and lots of moving parts to assess this season.  Mac is going to have his hands full.  Lets see how he does.  Then, if the Jets break even or better, we can throw a party in his honor.

 

Do you wake up mornings looking for the black cloud?

 

sh*t dude, hard to be this negative without taking depressants 

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Do you wake up mornings looking for the black cloud?

 

sh*t dude, hard to be this negative without taking depressants

Typical response. There's nothing negative whatsoever in my post. It's simply realistic. There are questions to be answered and I posed those questions. Every decision Mac made May be right. Her definitely improved the talent on this team. But it takes time to judge a GM, a coach, a player. I'll join the circle jerk when I see Mac make the tough decisions and come out on top. Until now there haven't been any obstacles for him other than Mo Wlkerson.

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Typical response. There's nothing negative whatsoever in my post. It's simply realistic. There are questions to be answered and I posed those questions. Every decision Mac made May be right. Her definitely improved the talent on this team. But it takes time to judge a GM, a coach, a player. I'll join the circle jerk when I see Mac make the tough decisions and come out on top. Until now there haven't been any obstacles for him other than Mo Wlkerson.

Theres the problem. You think this way, actually believe what you wrote is positive.  Or better yet, the SOJF credo, realistic.

 

You call the FA pick ups wasteful or questionable.  Criticize them for not EXTENDING someone they have control of first.  Give them credit for one pick but temper it by saying he fell to them.  Call Mauldin a reach and a QB who has all the tools a head scratcher.

 

No sh1t, picks haven't played yet. But if you pick soundly doesn't make a difference if they don't work out, you chose soundly.  You cant even give him that.  But hey, nothing negative whatsoever here.  

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Typical response. There's nothing negative whatsoever in my post. It's simply realistic. There are questions to be answered and I posed those questions. Every decision Mac made May be right. Her definitely improved the talent on this team. But it takes time to judge a GM, a coach, a player. I'll join the circle jerk when I see Mac make the tough decisions and come out on top. Until now there haven't been any obstacles for him other than Mo Wlkerson.

When someone questions the value of every move and adds that they aren't prepare to throw a party, that's essentially skeptical and negative. As there is no "reality" at this point to be "realistic about, what purpose does your post serve other than to say that you're a doubter. I happen to like what I see right now, in real time, based on what I assessed (along with most other posters and professional analysts) to be the needs of the team, the availability of players, and how McCag went about doing his job. We're obviously all speculating at this point, but there is evidence enough to assess whether you like what he did, or you didn't like it. As to your comment about "tough decisions," what's that about? He's made a number of critical decisions already, including not jumping at a contract with Mo prematurely. Your characterization of fans who are pleased with what they see so far as engaging in a "circle jerk" is just empty hostility. Do you like what he's done so far, right now, or not? Make a tough decision and weigh in.

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