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I'm really beginning to think this whole thing about Brady is a giant red herring to lead us away from the real perpetrators Belicheat and Ernie Adams. Yes, the softer balls were probably easier for Brady to throw and his receiver to catch, but this whole scheme was done to cut down on fumbles and reduce turnovers... something Belicheat is particularly conscious about.

 

Brady not turning his phone over to investigators is being done to keep this limited to himself and the equipment staff and protect the real masterminds.

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IMO  BB knew all along what was going on with the deflated balls.   Right after this broke,  he was in contact with Goodell and BB also knew exactly what would be coming down after the Wells report was finailized.  BB's decision to work with Goodell instead of appeal was rigged.  BB and Goodell are both covering their butts.  Both have good reason to do so.  They've lost the trust of the fan base if notthe entire  NFL members.   There's much credence to an old saying:  "sin has its pleasure for a season."  Think their day is coming.

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My question is this. What would the Pats have to do for Brady and or Belichick to get suspended for a full season?

They cheated, obviously and openly, in both post season games that led not only to a super bowl appearance, but an actual title.

The Ravens tipped off the Colts to the deflation thing. So it happened in at least both of those games. And we can all safely assume it's gone on for years.

They soiled the NFL's image severely during the whole two week build up to the super bowl... The leagues biggest two weeks of the whole year.

They refused to cooperate with investigators after emphatically guaranteeing the world that they would do the opposite.

So again, what would they have to do to get a real punishment?

If Belichcik were to pull a small firearm from the middle pocket on his hoody and shoot an opposing player in the face on national television... Would that warrant a full year suspension?????

If Brady paid his equipment guys to go gang rape Peyton Mannings wife the night before their next big show down.... Would that be enough to get him booted for 16 games?

If one of their players turns out to be a murder, drug dealer, extortionist, and gang member... Would that be enough to prove they are the scummiest organization in pro sports????

Oh wait......

As long as Goodell is running the show,  the Partiots will never get their just due in terms of a suspension, penalty or fine.  

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I want Brady to be on the IR for the entire year n then see how big of s genius that pick is when he doesn't have Brady. He got lucked out with Matt Cassel who was actually decent the first few yes until the NFL caught up to him n he couldn't improve.

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Because like in baseball. If you are caught with a foreign substance doctoring the ball the player is at fault. I personally don't think Kraft or belicheck deserve anything at all. I think Brady deserves the whole punishment. He's the one that cheated.

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I think there is actually a chance that BB didn't know about this until after, I have a feeling if he knew about it and there were even the tiniest chance that it could be traced back to him then he would not allow Brady to appeal the suspension...on the flip side of that it could be the reason Kraft changed his mind about sueing the NFL.

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This subject will get a lot more interesting if Brady actually winds up taking the league to court.  I think there is a lot of information, including Belicheat's knowledge or complicity, that might see the light of day when witnesses are compelled to testify under oath and their asses are on the line.  If Brady's appeal with the league fails and he doesn't follow through with a lawsuit against the league it will because he and the team are afraid to expose BB.

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Brady cares much more about his legacy, his brand, himself and his teammates (probably in that order) than Belichick.  The idea that he is somehow doing this to protect Belichick is about as sane as going to Gillette Stadium to participate in a "Free Brady" rally. 

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Brady cares much more about his legacy, his brand, himself and his teammates (probably in that order) than Belichick.  The idea that he is somehow doing this to protect Belichick is about as sane as going to Gillette Stadium to participate in a "Free Brady" rally. 

I agree but all the problems the Pats and Brady have had didn't have to happen.. They just take everything the rule book allows and takes it even farther.. If it's true like some teams have claimed that when they play at Gillette their communications fail that's even worse..  

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I agree but all the problems the Pats and Brady have had didn't have to happen.. They just take everything the rule book allows and takes it even farther.. If it's true like some teams have claimed that when they play at Gillette their communications fail that's even worse..  

 

There was a Bob Ryan piece in the Globe today that I thought was reasonably well done and made some of these same points:   

 

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/05/23/patriots-come-with-baggage-for-fans/GxOvt0m9J4i2NkkEnIpf9O/story.html

 

Being a fan shouldn’t have to mean saying you’re sorry.

 

There shouldn’t be a “yeah, but” attached to anyone’s fandom. But sometimes there is, as ardent followers of the New England Patriots are finding out.

 

Celtics fans have never had this problem. They won all 17 of ’em fair and square, and don’t believe that nonsense about Red Auerbach’s alleged chicanery at the Old Garden for even a millisecond. Auerbach then, and the Celtics now, have always been tenants, not landlords. Auerbach controlled neither the showers nor the Garden heat. I’m told the only thing he might have had any nightly control over was — and this is no given — towels.

 

The reality is that people are going to believe what they want to believe, and it’s far more convenient to believe that Auerbach made conditions miserable for opponents at the Garden than accept the idea that he was always a supplicant when it came to logistical matters in that place. And, of course, it was much to Red’s advantage to have the foes think he had control, even if he didn’t.

 

But even those silly beliefs were never cited as reasons why the Celtics should not have been regarded as proper champions. It’s just an amusing part of the Celtics’ mythology.

 

This is not the case with the Patriots and their fans. As ludicrous as it may seem to people in New England, there are people out there who sincerely believe that the Patriots have won four tainted Super Bowl championships and should be stripped of their honors. At the very least, there are people who sincerely believe the Draconian punishment for the alleged tampering of footballs prior to the AFC Championship game was a just and proper adjudication, even though what it amounts to is giving someone 20 years in prison for jaywalking. Anyone who honestly believes this particular punishment fits this particular crime has entered the discussion already believing the absolute worst about the Patriots, because the scope of the punishment does not stand up to any kind of intellectual scrutiny.

 

That’s right, jaywalking. I said jaywalking.

 

Is it necessary to point out for the zillionth time that during the game in question Tom Brady threw the properly inflated footballs far better in the second half than he threw the supposedly underinflated footballs in the first half? There was no competitive advantage gained, period. But if the footballs were indeed deliberately deflated there was a clear intent, and that certainly calls for some censure, like, for example, implementation of the $25,000 fine specifically called for by NFL regulations. So how did we get from a reasonable $25,000 fine to the piling-on nonsense of a $1 million fine, forfeiture of first- and fourth-round draft picks, and a four-game suspension for the team’s best player?

 

Why, in fact, did we go from jaywalking to 20 years in the slammer?

 

Once again, I ask you to back up to late January. It is the morning after Team A’s 45-7 triumph over Team B in the AFC Championship game. A functionary in the league office dials Team A’s number and we have the following conversation:

 

“Hello, Team A. It has come to our attention there was a little funny business with the air pressure in the footballs yesterday and you people had something to do with it. Naughty boys. C’mon, you know better. Afraid we have to hit you with a fine for 25 grand. We expect the check via overnight mail.”

 

“Yeah, sorry. Don’t know what came over us. Check’s practically in the mail already.”

 

And with that, the folks in the league office began to debate where they’d be going for lunch.

 

The difference was that Team A happened to be the New England Patriots, the NFL’s consummate envelope pushers. That was a different matter entirely. In the eyes of the league and the 31 lodge brothers. Thus: “It’s an old and tired act. Why is it always the Patriots who are playing fast and loose with the rules? Can’t they just show up and play, like everyone else? Afraid we’ve got to look into this. We’re tired of their nonsense.”

 

This is how we got where we are. This why we have all those billable hours. This is why a completely trivial transgression has become such a stupendously comical embarrassment. That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.

 

People hereabouts have underplayed the damaging effects of Spygate from the beginning. Do I think the first three victorious Super Bowl outcomes were the direct result of cheating? No, I do not. Certainly, no Patriots fan does. But significant numbers of your fellow Americans are far less certain. Their antipathy for the Patriots stems, not solely because they have won so often, as so many New Englanders foolishly believe, but because of a perception of how they’ve won.

 

Trust me, please. That perception is out there, and it will never go away. People are so embittered they are willing to embrace this ridiculous punishment for a trivial transgression because it’s the Patriots and they deserve whatever they get.

 

Bob Kraft cried that the punishment was “unfair,” and of course he was right. The problem is that the punishment had little to do with the actual infraction and everything to do with putting a smile on the faces of the other 31 owners.

 

The irony of this matter is that Bill Belichick, whose behavioral pattern is the reason the Patriots are held in such low esteem by the national audience, may very well have had nothing to do with anything this time.

 

It was pretty evident back in 2008 that Patriots fans would forever be placed on the defensive by Spygate, and that is exactly what has happened. Deflategate is absolute nonsense, a classic example of much ado about next-to-nothing, yet it resonates because the sporting public has conditioned itself to believe that the Patriots achieve nothing without some kind of artificial aid.

 

The Patriots’ wounds are self-inflicted. Something happened in those Spygate days. Something happened with the footballs the day of that AFC Championship game. And teams throughout the NFL maintain that other somethings have happened, and keep happening, when they play the Patriots.

 

Patriots fans, that’s your team. You’re stuck with them. If you wish to keep rooting for them, develop a thick skin or find yourself another team to root for. As long as you live, there will always be a “yeah, but” attached to anything they achieve.

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Good read from the Globe, AFCEastFan, Thanks for posting

 

America loves the area 51 and other conspiracy theories so Bob Ryan's viewpoint is interesting

 

I wonder if we will ever know what was on the spygate tapes?

 

Amazing to think Eric Mangini started this all, not sure he gets enough credit from both sides :)

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