BurnleyJet Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 What a great title, Mangina creating confusion. Boy the 49ers regression is at Warp Speed.. Eric Mangini, the new 49ers defensive coordinator, is apparently putting his own style into San Francisco's 3-4 defense. The hallmark? Total confusion. "All D-coordinators have their style," 49ers safety Antoine Bethea said, via peCSN Bay Area. "Coach Mangini, his thing is we're going to cause confusion. The opposing offense isn't going to know what we're going to be able to do each down. It could be bringing the pressure. It could be dropping eight into coverage. But it's just keeping the offense on their heels. However, you want to look at it, I think it's going to be a good deal for our defense." My first reaction to reading this quote is that I really hope confusion is not the main element here. As much as people described Vic Fangio's defense as a line-up-and-play scheme, there was always an element of confusion there. In every defense today, there absolutely needs to be an element of confusion. If quarterbacks are lining up with the ability to instantly locate the middle linebacker and deep safety, he can rip you apart. Even at the high school level, confusion is a principal element in every scheme. Perhaps Mangini is doing something else that remains to be seen. If not, he still has a few months before kickoff. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000494015/article/eric-mangini-aiming-to-create-confusion-with-49ers-d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 So wait, he is going to try and disguise coverages? WTF. Why don't we do that???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Thank you Eric Mangini for exposing the cheatriots* for who they really are San Fran has gutted that team and I do not expect them to have a great season but I am glad Mangini has another chance and hope he does well (unless they play the Jets) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Thank you Eric Mangini for exposing the cheatriots* for who they really are This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 he'll confuse his own players before he confuses the other team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Confusing offenses is a "process" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 So when Rex does it it's a great thing and he's a defensive genius but when Mangini does the same he's a moron. Makes sense. Anyway, the Penguin knows defense, coverages, putting guys in the right spot etc. as well as anybody in football. Rooting for him and the 49ers in the NFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 So when Rex does it it's a great thing and he's a defensive genius but when Mangini does the same he's a moron. Makes sense. Anyway, the Penguin knows defense, coverages, putting guys in the right spot etc. as well as anybody in football. Rooting for him and the 49ers in the NFC. No he doesn't. He was a puppet coordinator for Belichick one year. This is his chance to prove himself. Be interesting to see how he performs under a guy who was probably over-promoted from the DL to head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 It's kinda like my buddy's poker strategy..... "I have no idea what I'm doing so, therefore, neither do you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 No he doesn't. He was a puppet coordinator for Belichick one year. NE, NY, CLE, now SF. He's the best puppet on the planet I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 NE, NY, CLE, now SF. He's the best puppet on the planet I guess. One year coordinator. Was a terrible head coach in NY & Cle., then out of football before landing a consultant job with the 49ers. Then a TE coach job. He sucks, and has no one to lean on in his new job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 One year coordinator. Was a terrible head coach in NY & Cle., then out of football before landing a consultant job with the 49ers. Then a TE coach job. He sucks, and has no one to lean on in his new job. Disagree. I think he did a good job here as a HC, he did a good job in CLE as a HC. But that's besides the point. He's among the best and most knowledgable coaches in football when it comes to defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Disagree. I think he did a good job here as a HC, he did a good job in CLE as a HC. But that's besides the point. He's among the best and most knowledgable coaches in football when it comes to defense. Couldn't make the playoffs with a HOF QB during the only season in which the Pats did not have Brady, and lost to New England with Matt Cassel at QB who hadn't started a game since HS. Yeah...those were the days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Disagree. I think he did a good job here as a HC, he did a good job in CLE as a HC. But that's besides the point. He's among the best and most knowledgable coaches in football when it comes to defense. Lolol! Mangini mythology is funny sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The only thing that inept clown created is an empty roster. Since he's been named DC the entire defense has left town via FA or retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Lolol! Mangini mythology is funny sh*t. Yeah Daballhawk's post really makes you wonder about some jet fans. Mangini was awful here, worse in Cleveland and everyone has skipped town in San Francisco since he was named defensive coordinator but yeah the 49ers aren't headed to a 4-12 season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Lolol! Mangini mythology is funny sh*t. He was basically handed the division....had a HOF QB and no Brady to compete with as a "defensive genius" and missed the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 He was basically handed the division....had a HOF QB and no Brady to compete with as a "defensive genius" and missed the playoffs. You realize Favre had a torn bicep The drop off in production was obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Couldn't make the playoffs with a HOF QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 You realize Favre had a torn bicep The drop off in production was obvious Left-handed Brett Favre would still have been the best QB in that division with Brady down. Cool "x" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Left-handed Brett Favre would still have been the best QB in that division with Brady down. Cool "x" Dude stop. When you're hurt youre hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Dude stop. When you're hurt youre hurt. I guess that's why Mangini lost to Matt Cassel and his defense fell apart down the stretch. He was horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I guess that'swhy Mangini lost to Matt Cassel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 You realize Favre had a torn bicep The drop off in production was obvious Only thing I thought stopped us. Favre does not get hurt we had a serious chance. Defense was good enough IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Left-handed Brett Favre would still have been the best QB in that division with Brady down. Cool "x" No. No he wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Only thing I thought stopped us. Favre does not get hurt we had a serious chance. Defense was good enough IMHO. Defense was horrible down the stretch...couldn't stop a nose bleed in the most critical games of the season. Well, except for when they played the Seneca Wallace led Seahawks...they shut him down...got trampled by everybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 No. No he wasn't. You're right...I was excluding Cassell and thinking of Pennington/Edwards. Cassell put up good numbers..thanks largely in part to Mangini's defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Defense was horrible down the stretch...couldn't stop a nose bleed in the most critical games of the season. Well, except for when they played the Seneca Wallace led Seahawks...they shut him down...got trampled by everybody else. True. But then again neither could Rex's defense when needed most. I guess until we actually win a championship eventually the defense will fail us. If it didn't then we would be champions. Never had an offense capable of making up for shabby defense. Still most likely don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 You're right...I was excluding Cassell and thinking of Pennington/Edwards. Cassell put up good numbers..thanks largely in part to Mangini's defense. Yeah. Got him self a golden ticket and a fat payday too. "Fools Gold" LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 True. But then again neither could Rex's defense when needed most. I guess until we actually win a championship eventually the defense will fail us. If it didn't then we would be champions. Never had an offense capable of making up for shabby defense. Still most likely don't. I'm truly amazed that this team is going to hand the keys to Geno w/o any competition after the money they spent to import so much talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I'm truly amazed that this team is going to hand the keys to Geno w/o any competition after the money they spent to import so much talent. Really? I don;t like it but not sure what the option is. Fitz is nothing more than a journeyman jag. Getting behind him is like thinking the postman is your best friend because he comes to your house everyday and says high,. Simm is poo and the new kid is a project at very best. With what we have Geno is the best choice if for nothing else he has more experience than the young guys and less crappy years than Fitz. Probably only because he played less but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Really? I don;t like it but not sure what the option is. Fitz is nothing more than a journeyman jag. Getting behind him is like thinking the postman is your best friend because he comes to your house everyday and says high,. Simm is poo and the new kid is a project at very best. With what we have Geno is the best choice if for nothing else he has more experience than the young guys and less crappy years than Fitz. Probably only because he played less but still. If Gailey can work his magic and get Geno to eleveate his level of play to that of a journeyman JAG then that would be great. Up until now, he's largely played at a "why is this guy in the NFL" level. He's a Jet so I'll root for him and I would have even liked to see him win a head to head competition with Fitz because it may have meant he'd improved....but to just hand it over to him? Totally didn't expect the new regime to go the Rex route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 If Gailey can work his magic and get Geno to eleveate his level of play to that of a journeyman JAG then that would be great. Up until now, he's largely played at a "why is this guy in the NFL" level. He's a Jet so I'll root for him and I would have even liked to see him win a head to head competition with Fitz because it may have meant he'd improved....but to just hand it over to him? Totally didn't expect the new regime to go the Rex route. I can see that. At the same time Journeyman JAG level is the default. More of something you fall back to. I guess what the coaches saw amounts to Geno having a higher ceiling? Ok, fine. Felt a little dumb even typing that. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I can see that. At the same time Journeyman JAG level is the default. More of something you fall back to. I guess what the coaches saw amounts to Geno having a higher ceiling? Ok, fine. Felt a little dumb even typing that. LOL I want the guy to succeed...but far more reason to expect he'll. Hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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