flgreen Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Todd Bowles: Jets will have QB competition but job Smith's 'to lose' 18m - NFL GENO SMITH +4 more Play Rich Cimini, ESPN Staff Writer FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The New York Jets don't have a quarterback controversy -- yet. Right now, it's quarterback confusion. One week after offensive coordinator Chan Gailey said he expects Geno Smith to be the opening-day starter, claiming a Smith-Ryan Fitzpatrick competition never was a consideration, coach Todd Bowles took his turn at the microphone Wednesday and presented a different picture. Geno Smith is the Jets' No. 1 QB, says Todd Bowles, who clarified that he will receive competition for his job in training camp. Al Bello/Getty Images Bowles said Smith is the No. 1 quarterback, but that the backups -- Fitzpatrick, Matt Simms and rookie Bryce Petty -- will be competing against him. "I view it as an open competition, with Geno being the starter," said Bowles, commenting for the first time since Gailey made headlines. "It's his to lose. It's Ryan's to take. It's Bryce's to take. It's Matt's to take." Bowles, reiterating what he has said throughout the offseason, said Smith will go into training camp as the first-team quarterback and will receive the majority of the reps, adding: "Come camp time, there will be competition at that spot. I've said it from Day 1." Yes, he has, but Gailey changed the narrative last week when he all but handed the job to Smith, who threw 34 interceptions in his first two seasons. Gailey said it "wasn't a thought" to have an open competition, declaring the plan is to have Smith start in Week 1 against the Cleveland Browns. "That's the way we expect it to be," Gailey said. "Unless something happens with an injury, something that you don't foresee, that's how we anticipate it going." Gailey said there's virtually no way Smith can lose the job based on practice and preseason games. Bowles contradicted that, saying "it's no different than any other position. Whoever starts out with the first team will get the first-team reps as [performance] dictates," the preseason included. On face value, there seems to be a disconnect between Bowles and Gailey, although some of the confusion can be attributed to semantics. A lot depends on the definition of "competition." Bowles said it's "open," yet he stated his philosophy is to give the first-team players most of the practice reps. Got that? Bowles said he and Gailey have the same take on the quarterback situation, insisting, "We're always on the same page." He said Gailey has a "very matter-of-fact personality" and was just responding to a question based on the current circumstances at the position, mainly Fitzpatrick's injury and Petty's inexperience. But Fitzpatrick's injury -- a broken leg, suffered last December -- no longer is keeping him out of drills. On Wednesday, he practiced for the first time in team drills, working behind Smith, who had a spotty day. Fitzpatrick has at least one edge on Smith in that he already knows the offense, having played under Gailey from 2010 to 2012 with the Buffalo Bills. For his part, Smith said he's pleased with his rate of development in Gailey's system. As for the competition -- or non-competition, depending on whom you ask -- Smith said he tunes out the noise. "I always felt it was my job to go out and lead this team," he said. "That's the way I look at it. It's not going to change my approach or the way I go about my business. I look at myself as the type of guy who can lead this team and do the right things." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 #CompetitionOverinMay #GenoWeek1Starter #IdiotIfYouThinkOtherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 #CompetitionOverinMay #GenoWeek1Starter #IdiotIfYouThinkOtherwise And that will be the 1st chink in the new regimes armor if that is the case. If Fitz plays better than Geno he should start no ifs ands or buts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I'm confused. I have grown so used to head coaches wanting nothing to do with offense that I didn't even know they could intervene to make decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I'm confused. I have grown so used to head coaches wanting nothing to do with offense that I didn't even know they could intervene to make decisions. Okay, that cracked me up.. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 #TooEarlyToLoseSleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I don't care who it is now. As long as they make the right choice by the end of training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I'll wait a little while before jumping into traffic. Last time I looked it's May. But have at it whiners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 OH HERE WE GO AGAIN... FIRE UP THE BILLBOARDZ!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The New York Jets don't have a quarterback controversy -- yet. Right now, it's quarterback confusion. It's quarterback mediocrity. Let the less mediocre win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 It's quarterback mediocrity. Let the less mediocre win! Well put and spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Fitz is a decent pro QB Smith isnt. Bowles must be smoking Bowls if he thinks otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Circus ??? Why is this so difficult for the Jets every year. Have a competition and best QB plays idc who it is. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Circus ??? Why is this so difficult for the Jets every year. Have a competition and best QB plays idc who it is. That's it. It is not difficult for the Jets at all. This group is doing the right thing and is only May. It's the media and hysterical fans (not you) that keep the circus going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Petulant overreaction is classic amongst this fan base & forum. They could claim "Bruce Springstein is his Shido-shi" and it wouldn't matter because until the season starts and the bullets start to fly, all this is speculative fodder. For all we know, we lose our #1 & #2 at QB by game 2 (recall the 2005 season?) it's all projection until injuries and regular season competition dictates otherwise. PS- bonus points for anyone who knows the movie pertaining that quote.......hint: "break bottom brick." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Fitz is a decent pro QB Smith isnt. Bowles must be smoking Bowls if he thinks otherwise. Fitz is a known quantity, geno still has a higher potential upside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 OH HERE WE GO AGAIN... FIRE UP THE BILLBOARDZ!!!! You mean the billboards that got John Idzik fired? Yeah, those are pretty effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 It is not difficult for the Jets at all. This group is doing the right thing and is only May. It's the media and hysterical fans (not you) that keep the circus going. JetBlue, you seriously honestly believe that this QB competition isn't a MASSIVE circus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 It's quarterback mediocrity. Let the less mediocre win! Mediocre means average, or "of only moderate quality". We have had well below average QB play for the last 6 years. I'll take mediocre in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 You mean the billboards that got John Idzik fired? Yeah, those are pretty effective. Maybe we need a sarcasm billboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 AND "LOSE IT" he WILL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 What's funny is that nothing has changed on the QB front at all, including the over reactions to every word out of the coaches' mouths here. Geno was never just being handed the job, but it's still his job to lose. Bowles was just putting out the fire Gailey started with these comments, but never refuted Gailey's statement that the two of them spoke months ago about the QB position, and that they expected Geno to be the opening day starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 jets got Fitz (no coincidence they got QB who knows Chans playbook 100%) to be Day1 starter if leg OK. Jets knew w/great defense they just need game manager who KNOWS playbook until a real QB 'of future' groomed (hopefully Petty)...Geno kaput since he has ZERO QB awareness. all he can do is scramble and hit primary WR if wide open. Cant read progressions quick enuf when primary covered , cant take that step and a half up in pocket as good QBs do under pressure (Geno the brainiac, turns around and scrambles backwards for 12 yard sack losses) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 jets got Fitz (no coincidence they got QB who knows Chans playbook 100%) to be Day1 starter if leg OK. Jets knew w/great defense they just need game manager who KNOWS playbook until a real QB 'of future' groomed (hopefully Petty)...Geno kaput since he has ZERO QB awareness. all he can do is scramble and hit primary WR if wide open. Cant read progressions quick enuf when primary covered , cant take that step and a half up in pocket as good QBs do under pressure (Geno the brainiac, turns around and scrambles backwards for 12 yard sack losses) You've been brainwashed by the Rex mentality that all a QB is needed for is to not lose games. Bowles saw firsthand when they had Palmer in Arz that having a real offense helps the D tremendously. The Jets will not be a chorus line offense under Bowles/Gailey ( run-run-run-kick) . With viable offensive weapons for the first time in a half dozen years the Jets don't want a game manager which is why Fitz was brought in to be backup. This team will rise or fall with how well Geno and Gailey can maintain a real offense. If Fitz has to start either due to injury or ineptitude by Geno the Jets will be facing a long season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 What's funny is that nothing has changed on the QB front at all, including the over reactions to every word out of the coaches' mouths here. Geno was never just being handed the job, but it's still his job to lose. Bowles was just putting out the fire Gailey started with these comments, but never refuted Gailey's statement that the two of them spoke months ago about the QB position, and that they expected Geno to be the opening day starter. Bingo Nothing has changed. It is certainly in the Jets best interest for Smith to come out and take charge of the team from day one. That is what they are hoping for, and expect. They want to give him the majority of the reps during OTA's to give him every opportunity to keep the job, and lead the Jets. If he sucks again, Fitz will take over in camp. But that's not plan A. No , this in not a circus. This is the best way to go about it. if the competition is close Smith will keep the job. No pitch by pitch count of each throw the media gets to see in OTA's RIGHT NOW Smith is the #1 guy. It may not be that way in August. This whole drama is why most HC's don't let co-coordinators speak to the press often. If Bowles is smart he will learn his lesson and not let Gailey speak to the press again until he has to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 This whole drama is why most HC's don't let co-coordinators speak to the press often. If Bowles is smart he will learn his lesson and not let Gailey speak to the press again until he has to. Tuna did it and it is right approach, I agree. One voice to public from Xs/Os side of ball (Bowles), one voice from personnel side , Mac (scouts dont do interviews), and u trot woody's wife out once in awhile to sell Jets tank tops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Bingo Nothing has changed. It is certainly in the Jets best interest for Smith to come out and take charge of the team from day one. That is what they are hoping for, and expect. They want to give him the majority of the reps during OTA's to give him every opportunity to keep the job, and lead the Jets. If he sucks again, Fitz will take over in camp. But that's not plan A. No , this in not a circus. This is the best way to go about it. if the competition is close Smith will keep the job. No pitch by pitch count of each throw the media gets to see in OTA's RIGHT NOW Smith is the #1 guy. It may not be that way in August. This whole drama is why most HC's don't let co-coordinators speak to the press often. If Bowles is smart he will learn his lesson and not let Gailey speak to the press again until he has to. If Bowles is smart he won't let what the media or fans say bother him one iota unlike his predecessor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Mediocre means average, or "of only moderate quality". We have had well below average QB play for the last 6 years. I'll take mediocre in a heartbeat. My Thesauras also describes mediocre as unskilled, and inferior. As long as the Jet QBs play in an inferior manner, there will be a QB controversy, (no matter what the coaches say.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 If Bowles is smart he won't let what the media or fans say bother him one iota unlike his predecessor. I'm pretty sure Bowles isn't going to make football decisions based on what the fans think. Least I hope not. But it's got to be aggravating, when you have made yourself clear, to having the media pound away at a point. HC is a stressful enough job. Think Bowles did a good job in putting the fire out. Of course the media is going to still hammer at it. Nothing they love more then a QB controversy. IMO 90% of fans understood that if Smith plays the way he has in the past he won't be the starter opening day. Only a few Geno die hards actually thought that Smith was the anointed guaranteed starter in Sept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Fitz is a decent pro QB Smith isnt. Bowles must be smoking Bowls if he thinks otherwise. Fitz has 123 tds 101 picks and 11 rushing td's in his career.. One of some Jet fans favorite QB's has 128 td's 98 picks and no rushing td's. Fitz was a 7th rd pick the other was a 1st rd pick so it's fair to say Fitz is decent.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 You've been brainwashed by the Rex mentality that all a QB is needed for is to not lose games. Bowles saw firsthand when they had Palmer in Arz that having a real offense helps the D tremendously. The Jets will not be a chorus line offense under Bowles/Gailey ( run-run-run-kick) . With viable offensive weapons for the first time in a half dozen years the Jets don't want a game manager which is why Fitz was brought in to be backup. This team will rise or fall with how well Geno and Gailey can maintain a real offense. If Fitz has to start either due to injury or ineptitude by Geno the Jets will be facing a long season. agree to disagree,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 JetBlue, you seriously honestly believe that this QB competition isn't a MASSIVE circus? Absolutely. Geno is going in as the number 1; Fitz has to beat him out. The only circus is the media making a big deal out of every pass, incompletion etc. Bowles is not Rex and he will not buy into all that nonsense. He laid it out very plainly yesterday. Nothing to see here, move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Bingo Nothing has changed. It is certainly in the Jets best interest for Smith to come out and take charge of the team from day one. That is what they are hoping for, and expect. They want to give him the majority of the reps during OTA's to give him every opportunity to keep the job, and lead the Jets. If he sucks again, Fitz will take over in camp. But that's not plan A. No , this in not a circus. This is the best way to go about it. if the competition is close Smith will keep the job. No pitch by pitch count of each throw the media gets to see in OTA's RIGHT NOW Smith is the #1 guy. It may not be that way in August. This whole drama is why most HC's don't let co-coordinators speak to the press often. If Bowles is smart he will learn his lesson and not let Gailey speak to the press again until he has to. Or they could just talk about things and stuff. You know, sing the same tune so that the message is consistent. Instead, it gives the impression that the right hand doesn't speak to the left hand. All is well in Jets land! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 You've been brainwashed by the Rex mentality that all a QB is needed for is to not lose games. Bowles saw firsthand when they had Palmer in Arz that having a real offense helps the D tremendously. The Jets will not be a chorus line offense under Bowles/Gailey ( run-run-run-kick) . With viable offensive weapons for the first time in a half dozen years the Jets don't want a game manager which is why Fitz was brought in to be backup. This team will rise or fall with how well Geno and Gailey can maintain a real offense. If Fitz has to start either due to injury or ineptitude by Geno the Jets will be facing a long season. I'm sure Bowles also saw that the team still looked pretty damn good when Drew Stanton was the starting QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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