keysersoze Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Last season, if you recall, John Idzik delivered a mid-season to the press conference which has been described by many as incomprehensible at best and utterly ridiculous at worst. What were your thoughts as that press conference transpired? Was it an honest attempt by Idzik to do damage control for a lost season, or was it just a terrible idea to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 That was a man trying to avoid saying that his owner forced a sh*tty head coach upon him, and that head coach effectively stopped working in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 what did you guys think about Avatar worth the hype or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 He's a rebel and a runner He's a signal turning green He's a restless young romantic Wants to run the big machine He's got a problem with his poisons But you know he'll find a cure He's cleaning up his systems To keep his nature pure Learning to match the beat of the Old World Man Learning to catch the heat of the Third World Man He's got to make his own mistakes And learn to mend the mess he makes He's old enough to know what's right But young enough not to choose it He's noble enough to win the world But weak enough to lose it He's a New World Man... He's a radio receiver Tuned to factories and farms He's a writer and a ranger And a young boy bearing arms He's got a problem with his power With weapons on patrol He's got to walk a fine line And keep his self-control Trying to save the day for the Old World Man Trying to pave the way for the Third World Man He's not concerned with yesterday He knows constant change is here today He's noble enough to know what's right But weak enough not to choose it He's wise enough to win the world But fool enough to lose it He's a New World Man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Wow Pete Kendall demoted to 2nd string and sleeping in the rookie dorms? Let's discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 That was a man trying to avoid saying that his owner forced a sh*tty head coach upon him, and that head coach effectively stopped working in August. He took the job. He stood in that locker after one season and shouted out "this is our coach!!!" after a meaningless win to go 8-8. He should be groveling at Rex's feet, because had it not been for Rex he would have never had a job in the first place. Pretty much every self respecting GM turned down even an interview knowing Rex was part of the package. It was the equivalent of offering an executive position in a corporation with the caveat that you need to keep a horrible employee that is essentially going to destroy your career long term, so the mailboy raised his hand and said "well I'll do it!" because he knows he'll never get that chaqnce again. Idzik is horrible, HORRIBLE as a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 He took the job. He stood in that locker after one season and shouted out "this is our coach!!!" after a meaningless win to go 8-8. He should be groveling at Rex's feet, because had it not been for Rex he would have never had a job in the first place. Pretty much every self respecting GM turned down even an interview knowing Rex was part of the package. It was the equivalent of offering an executive position in a corporation with the caveat that you need to keep a horrible employee that is essentially going to destroy your career long term, so the mailboy raised his hand and said "well I'll do it!" because he knows he'll never get that chaqnce again. Idzik is horrible, HORRIBLE as a GM. Idzik is a martyr, and any success that the new regime has will be built upon the foundation that Idzik laid in place with his own bloodied hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 What a good question. I know it's very evenly split on people who thought it was a good and well thought-out press conference and those who were cringing uncomfortably while watching it. Totally half of those watching it were nodding in agreement with every sentence and every Jets fan wasn't cringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Idzik is a martyr, and any success that the new regime has will be built upon the foundation that Idzik laid in place with his own bloodied hands. foundation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Idzik is a martyr, and any success that the new regime has will be built upon the foundation that Idzik laid in place with his own bloodied hands. Maybe you're right. Maybe Woody knew all along he had to endure 2 more years of Rex before he could really find some competent people in the FO, but he still needed to serve some blood for the fans. So fire Tanny, hire the most incompetent mealy mouthed dipsh*t on the planet to endure those 2 years until the cap is finally clear. Hell, maybe Woody was behind the airplanes and billboards all along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I hated Avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 These might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 **** Idzik. I still think he should of brought in his own guy though. I'm glad things worked the way they did, because I'm happy with Mac/Bowles duo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 He's a rebel and a runner He's a signal turning green He's a restless young romantic Wants to run the big machine He's got a problem with his poisons But you know he'll find a cure He's cleaning up his systems To keep his nature pure Learning to match the beat of the Old World Man Learning to catch the heat of the Third World Man He's got to make his own mistakes And learn to mend the mess he makes He's old enough to know what's right But young enough not to choose it He's noble enough to win the world But weak enough to lose it He's a New World Man... He's a radio receiver Tuned to factories and farms He's a writer and a ranger And a young boy bearing arms He's got a problem with his power With weapons on patrol He's got to walk a fine line And keep his self-control Trying to save the day for the Old World Man Trying to pave the way for the Third World Man He's not concerned with yesterday He knows constant change is here today He's noble enough to know what's right But weak enough not to choose it He's wise enough to win the world But fool enough to lose it He's a New World Man... Klecko didn't rep this yet? Rough day in anchor sales or he just doesn't like you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Was Idzik seriously the best that we could do two years ago? I mean c'mon, there had to have been at least ONE GM candidate who had a brain cell or two that wanted the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Wow Pete Kendall demoted to 2nd string and sleeping in the rookie dorms? Let's discuss. The prick deserved it after trying to get our QB's killed on purpose due to his little contract squabble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Was Idzik seriously the best that we could do two years ago? I mean c'mon, there had to have been at least ONE GM candidate who had a brain cell or two that wanted the job. KORN FERRY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I never watched it, I was done with him as soon as I saw our CB's and 20M in cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 It was a press conference that spawned a number of ill thought out billboards, and made those responsible a little cash, along with 5 minutes of fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Idzik is a martyr, and any success that the new regime has will be built upon the foundation that Idzik laid in place with his own bloodied hands. yes agree the Jets got a clean slate to work with and rebuild...much like Japan after the H-Bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 So when are we moving on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 This is an insane thread and with that I shall respond. How anyone can support Idzik when he stated in that press conference that the Jets had more than enough talent on the team as then constructed is beyond me. That alone made me realize that the man was a boob!!! The Jets weren't just an average team as far as talent goes but one of the worst rosters in the league Idzik had to go and he was a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 So when are we moving on ? When Idzik's mistakes are fully rectified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 It was a press conference that spawned a number of ill thought out billboards, and made those responsible a little cash, along with 5 minutes of fame. You do realize those billboard got Idzik fired, right? Or do you not pay attention to the news that John Idzik got canned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 When Idzik's mistakes are fully rectified. Keep at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Keep at it. Of course you never do anything but complain anyways, so why do you care what other people talk about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Of course you never do anything but complain anyways, so why do you care what other people talk about? Why the personal attack ? That was the only thing you could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Woody made his own bed with Idzik when he specifically made it a parameter that he wanted an executive type for GM not a football guy. Last season completely sucked, but if did have the fortune of making Woody finally see the light that football teams need to be run by football people. not corporate executive MBAs and lawyers. Which is a great thing. Now we have a football guy as GM who so far seems brilliant, a completely overhauled FO and scouting staff, Bradway fired, a promising head coach and a staff of merit not Rex cronies. All Jets fans should be ecstatic about the Idzik press conference because it led to this complete tidal change in team philosophy. I have not been as excited about the Jets since Parcells because Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I was in the car during the infamous press conference oh WFAN. I hate francesa but for that day only he made me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I would prefer interlocking debates about Joss Wheedon and Entourage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 When Idzik's mistakes are fully rectified. you dont mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Was Idzik seriously the best that we could do two years ago? I mean c'mon, there had to have been at least ONE GM candidate who had a brain cell or two that wanted the job. Idzik is the best you can do when a precursor to getting the job is not being allowed to hire the 3rd most important person in the organization. Those who generally are not down with criticizing Idzik seem to want to have their cake and eat it too. They recognize that Woody put him in a tough spot yet don't readily admit he was a 2nd rate GM candidate as a result of the rule set in place. Those who rip on Idzik feel he didn't bring in enough talent for Rex and that he "set him up to fail." Which is equally a BS notion. Idzik just wasn't great at his job and neither was Rex in the end. It shouldn't be a surprise that they're now both gone. The 3rd option, which I fully embrace, is that Woody Johnson, the common denominator for everything that's gone wrong with this franchise over the last 15 years, is a terrible owner. However, I am glad he finally decided to leave the "big boy" decisions up to actual football people rather than a search firm. The selection of a new GM and HC were taken out of his hands, which is a very good thing. No matter which of the 3 is the "most correct", it's probably time to move on from the Idzik-Rex era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenoandtheJets Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I thank the Lord that Idzik is not a Jets employee anymore. He was very useless and he seemed to have not one clue on how to run a football team. Thank goodness Mccagnan is now the general manager atleast he knows how to evaluate talent properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 It was the act of a desperate man whose plan was blowing up in front of everyone. The season was pretty much gone and it wasn't even November yet. He went up there to try to plead for his job, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Idzik is the best you can do when a precursor to getting the job is not being allowed to hire the 3rd most important person in the organization. Those who generally are not down with criticizing Idzik seem to want to have their cake and eat it too. They recognize that Woody put him in a tough spot yet don't readily admit he was a 2nd rate GM candidate as a result of the rule set in place. Those who rip on Idzik feel he didn't bring in enough talent for Rex and that he "set him up to fail." Which is equally a BS notion. Idzik just wasn't great at his job and neither was Rex in the end. It shouldn't be a surprise that they're now both gone. The 3rd option, which I fully embrace, is that Woody Johnson, the common denominator for everything that's gone wrong with this franchise over the last 15 years, is a terrible owner. However, I am glad he finally decided to leave the "big boy" decisions up to actual football people rather than a search firm. The selection of a new GM and HC were taken out of his hands, which is a very good thing. No matter which of the 3 is the "most correct", it's probably time to move on from the Idzik-Rex era. What poor decisions was Woody directly responsible for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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