#27TheDominator Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I get that the picks from 2010 weren't so great, but I'm pretty sure that out of that draft we used picks in trades for Favre, Lito Shepherd, Holmes and Braylon. It's not like all we got was John Conner. The lack of production from the 2009-2010 drafts has been a big problem for the franchise, but at least all seven guys Tannenbaum selected are still in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I was on JI at the time I don't remember any push at all to draft bridgewater. It was always going to be WR or Safety we took the crappiest Safety. So many people were saying we were going to take Odell Beckham Jr. that people around here still complain that we passed on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 So many people were saying we were going to take Odell Beckham Jr. that people around here still complain that we passed on him. I wanted Beckham. He was gone when we picked, we didnt pass on him. But..knowing Idzik, we probably would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSU_Jet Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 We complain all the time how we never have decent options at QB. Then when we pass on a guy who is more than just a "decent option", I.E. someone we can build around, we say he wasn't that good in the first place. Kind of the thing we do here. Typical SOJF post by a SOJF poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSU_Jet Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Yeah, Sapp, another player half the league passed on but we're singled out for passing on a moron who decided to get high right before his drug test. No red flags there. Yeah dude, it would have totally sucked to have Warren Sapp or Dan Marino on this team for doing a harmless drug! We were so much better off with Kyle Brady and Ken O'Brien!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I wanted Beckham. He was gone when we picked, we didnt pass on him. But..knowing Idzik, we probably would have. I know that and you know that, but not everybody knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSU_Jet Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 the 2014 draft class hasn't held the franchise hostage yet, while the 2010 draft class is the epitome of doing just that LOL give me a break. The 2010 class was one of the smallest on record for the Jets. How could it alone possibly hold the Jets hostage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Interesting thing about Tannenbaum is that one of the things he was maligned for was not drafting late round offensive line depth. He whiffed on Ducasse, but his later round picks weren't so bad. Bender and Griffin didn't make it out of their first seasons, but Slauson and Nate Garner have had very nice careers for where they were picked. This is where not having enough picks was the problem more than talent evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 LOL give me a break. The 2010 class was one of the smallest on record for the Jets. How could it alone possibly hold the Jets hostage? Yet you ignore the reasons why we had so few picks. Surrendering a 3rd rounder in the Braylon Edwards wasn't a terrible deal. But giving away a pick for the lowly Lito Sheppard, then moving up with the pick we got for Kerry Rhodes to get a bum like Joe McKnight? Awful decisions on top of us taking a project lineman in Ducasse and letting Rex pick Connor. Tannenbaum not only used many of his picks poorly over the years, but just as importantly, he traded away a good deal of draft capital for trash. That's what makes this an exceptionally bad draft that helped lead to our roster being devoid of talent later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 LOL give me a break. The 2010 class was one of the smallest on record for the Jets. How could it alone possibly hold the Jets hostage? For the very reason you stated, it was small, the team had to force each pick to work out.... Thus we went a couple years with those players taking roster spots, trying to be "coached up" into starting roles, while the FO did nothing to fix those holes because they needed those players to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 2010 was a complete and total whiff. In a category of it's own for bad drafts. As for 2014.....I'm confident McDougle is going to be a player. Amaro and Dozier could be players. IK and Reilly were good picks for where they were taken. So the upside of the 2014 class is that nearly half the class could end up being good picks based on their draft slots. The downside? We passed on Bridgewater to take Pryor, which was unforgivable even if Pryor turns into a really good safety, and the other half of the picks have all been cut. So if anything less than 2-3 of the guys we kept don't work out, it's a complete disaster. I know someone already got you on this but here is the thing, Bridgewater had a horrendous pro day. If we drafted a QB in round 1 it was more likely to have been Manziel as at the time he was a better prospect (we dodged a bullet not drafting him) Both Bridgewater and Pryor are unproven young players to this point and its unfair to say that we should have taken one over the other as Bridgewater could easily come in next season and have worse play than Geno and Pryor could just as easy come in and be the beast that Rex and Idzik thought he was going to be. The other part to this is the year before Idzik drafted Geno who had a bumpy start and yes we probably should have been looking for a backup plan but Geno did finish his rookie season off pretty strong just like he did this year so its also viable to believe that Idzik had faith in Geno to be a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Again, it's not just that we passed on Bridgewater. We passed on several other quality prospects, especially at WR. To make a luxury pick. Unless Pryor ends up an elite or close to an elite safety, that's a bad pick. Period. Safeties just don't impact the game as much as other spots on the field, and you can't afford to whiff when you take one in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Jets just make honorable mention in this worst draft year.. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000497574/article/five-worst-nfl-draft-classes-by-team-of-last-10-years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Jets just make honorable mention in this worst draft year.. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000497574/article/five-worst-nfl-draft-classes-by-team-of-last-10-years 5. 2013 Miami Dolphins » Team draft history » Draft class: DE Dion Jordan (Round 1), CB Jamar Taylor (Round 2), OT Dallas Thomas (Round 3), CB Will Davis (Round 3), LB Jelani Jenkins (Round 4), TE Dion Sims (Round 4), RB Mike Gillislee (Round 5), K Caleb Sturgis (Round 5), SS Don Jones (Round 7) » Players who were primary starters: 1 » Total games played: 206 The blatant error from this draft for the Dolphins is the selection of Jordan, who is steamrolling toward "all-time draft bust" status. Miami traded up nine spots -- with the Oakland Raiders -- to move into the No. 3 hole to pick Jordan, who entered that year's draft drawing comparisons to Dolphins great Jason Taylor. Instead, Jordan spent much of his first two seasons as a situational pass rusher, and will miss the entire 2015 season after another violation of the league's substance-abuse policy. Of the eight field players taken in this draft -- a ninth selection was kicker Caleb Sturgis -- only one has been able to see consistent time as a starter: Jelani Jenkins, who made 14 starts at linebacker for the Dolphins in 2014. This one makes me smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 he was pick 12..... I get your point but our pick was so great. Kyle fukkin Brady. No, o get it. ,anything associated with the Jets, especially the Kotite Jets get emphasized. But he was a top pick who fell a long way because people were scared off by someone who failed a drug test. That was more of an issue back then. Plus I think more were worried about someone who was so stupid to do it, more than what he did and then give him big bucks. Of course was made worse by taking another TE after Johnny Mitchell. If we took a different player who played well we wouldn't hear a word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Yeah dude, it would have totally sucked to have Warren Sapp or Dan Marino on this team for doing a harmless drug! We were so much better off with Kyle Brady and Ken O'Brien!!! Of course we would have been better off. But that wasn't the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 So many people were saying we were going to take Odell Beckham Jr. that people around here still complain that we passed on him. All we have to do is go back in time, tank and pick what was it? 7 or 8 ahead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 No, o get it. ,anything associated with the Jets, especially the Kotite Jets get emphasized. But he was a top pick who fell a long way because people were scared off by someone who failed a drug test. That was more of an issue back then. Plus I think more were worried about someone who was so stupid to do it, more than what he did and then give him big bucks. Of course was made worse by taking another TE after Johnny Mitchell. If we took a different player who played well we wouldn't hear a word Johnny Mitchell had talent his problem was he's a nut job.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Johnny Mitchell had talent his problem was he's a nut job.. He had tremendous skills and ability. He totally screwed it up being so crazy and immature. Even with the second chance he got with Parcells. Talked a great game, how he changed etc, etc. right up to day he walked out on Parcells during camp and pissing away his last chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 No, o get it. ,anything associated with the Jets, especially the Kotite Jets get emphasized. But he was a top pick who fell a long way because people were scared off by someone who failed a drug test. That was more of an issue back then. Plus I think more were worried about someone who was so stupid to do it, more than what he did and then give him big bucks. Of course was made worse by taking another TE after Johnny Mitchell. If we took a different player who played well we wouldn't hear a word off topic..I moved to NC in 95 and for about 3 years 95-97 I lost touch with details etc as down here we didnt get a lot of NY news. Thats why , for fans outside NY, boards like this are fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 In 1998 out of 12 picks we got Fabini.. That and 99, back to back, legendary bust drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 off topic..I moved to NC in 95 and for about 3 years 95-97 I lost touch with details etc as down here we didnt get a lot of NY news. Thats why , for fans outside NY, boards like this are fantastic. The internet made getting info, staying in touch much easier. I rely on it too, especially when I'm in Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 The internet made getting info, staying in touch much easier. I rely on it too, especially when I'm in Florida I hear they have websites now that give you directions to anywhere in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Johnny Mitchell had talent his problem was he's a nut job.. That and he couldn't run routes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkiss24 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 '06 has always been a favorite of mine. Brad Smith, Kellen Clemens and Eric Smith were also good players found in the later rounds. Mangini was a great talent evaluator. Only bad pick was Anthony Schlegel lolEric Smith was not a good player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 1993... ugggh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 It's been awhile but that Nugent/Jolley draft really resonates with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 1993... ugggh What was wrong with 1993? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 It's been awhile but that Nugent/Jolley draft really resonates with me Justin miller was a prize,also. worst draft strategy I have ever witnessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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