JetBlue Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I am going to go with Quinton Coples. I think he will get more action as a DE now, at least until Richardson is back. This is a great opportunity for him and I hope he makes the best of it. A 4 man line of Wilkerson, Harrison, Coples and Williams is no joke. Truthfully they all need to step up their games but I can see Coples really breaking through this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 some other fat guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Geno Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Ummmmmm....... Leonard Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 This is William's time to shine. Coples stepping up would be nice, too, but I think Williams will be the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSU_Jet Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I agree with the OP. Williams definitely has a big opportunity to shine, but he's a rookie and isn't expected to be all-pro from day one by any means. Coples has been in the league for four years and is being moved to his preferred position with 3 other extremely talented players sharing the line with him. If Coples doesn't break through, I think it's a big indictment on his future prospects with this team. It's do or die time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Since when are the Jets switching to a four man front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Big Mo's chance to show he is worth top 5 money. This could be "butterfly effect" situation that ultimately results in big new deal for Mo and moving Richardson for a QB (draft or trade). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Geno Smith + 1 Also agree with jgb ... (once Williams shows anything) the big money likely will only go to one of Mo/Sheldon ... With the more likely scenario before this having been Sheldon as the favorite to get the deal & Mo used as bait if needed for a QB possibility ... This may switch that around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Darrin Walls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Darrin Walls Tell at least that Bilal was one of your finalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Tell at least that Bilal was one of your finalists. 1. Walls 2. Bilal 3. Melo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted July 5, 2015 Author Share Posted July 5, 2015 Big Mo's chance to show he is worth top 5 money. This could be "butterfly effect" situation that ultimately results in big new deal for Mo and moving Richardson for a QB (draft or trade). Great minds think alike.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Big Mo's chance to show he is worth top 5 money. This could be "butterfly effect" situation that ultimately results in big new deal for Mo and moving Richardson for a QB (draft or trade). It actually seems like a perfect opportunity to hold out. Puts the Jets in a real bad situation if Mo decides to holdout with the Richardson suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 1. Walls 2. Bilal 3. Melo Melo practically quit when they drafted the Croatian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Everyone of them. It could be especially helpful for Leonard Williams, but they ALL have to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 D'mitri Patterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 This will probably end up being a blessing in disguise if Leonard Williams is as good as everyone thinks he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 It actually seems like a perfect opportunity to hold out. Puts the Jets in a real bad situation if Mo decides to holdout with the Richardson suspension. Agree with you but while holdouts are common, agreeing to show up, and then changing your mind and bailing because another starter goes down might be over the line and really hurt a player's reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I hope its Coples. He is still perhaps the most athletically gifted DE we have. That said, i think Williams benefits most from the suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 I hope its Coples. He is still perhaps the most athletically gifted DE we have. That said, i think Williams benefits most from the suspension. I agree on both points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I agree with the OP. Williams definitely has a big opportunity to shine, but he's a rookie and isn't expected to be all-pro from day one by any means. Coples has been in the league for four years and is being moved to his preferred position with 3 other extremely talented players sharing the line with him. If Coples doesn't break through, I think it's a big indictment on his future prospects with this team. It's do or die time. What is his preferred position and when did anybody say he was being moved? All reports out of camp had Coples at OLB with Mauldin backing him up. The fact that message board geniuses want to move him inside does not make it a fact. Truth is, they drafted Williams and he will probably play less inside than ever. Even without Sheldon, LB is the weak spot on the D. Moving him down makes it weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 What is his preferred position and when did anybody say he was being moved? All reports out of camp had Coples at OLB with Mauldin backing him up. The fact that message board geniuses want to move him inside does not make it a fact. Truth is, they drafted Williams and he will probably play less inside than ever. Even without Sheldon, LB is the weak spot on the D. Moving him down makes it weaker. Odds are Coples will get more time with his hand in the dirt and could very easily see his time split from LB to DL, depending on the situation. At least that is this message board genius's take on it. Btw here is my original post: I am going to go with Quinton Coples. I think he will get more action as a DE now, at least until Richardson is back. This is a great opportunity for him and I hope he makes the best of it. A 4 man line of Wilkerson, Harrison, Coples and Williams is no joke. Truthfully they all need to step up their games but I can see Coples really breaking through this year. Notice I said I THINK not I KNOW. It is all just conjecture at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Odds are Coples will get more time with his hand in the dirt and could very easily see his time split from LB to DL, depending on the situation. At least that is this message board genius's take on it. Btw here is my original post: Notice I said I THINK not I KNOW. It is all just conjecture at this point. He certainly might, but that will mean more of who on the field? I think we are primarily talking Williams vs. Mauldin. In that case, my money is on Williams. Maybe more Ik or Reilly. If it means that we are going to see more of Babin? No thanks. If you check my post, you will see that I wasn't quoting you. I was quoting a post that said that Coples was being moved. I have never heard a peep that was going to happen and if it were, our offseason was not handled to reflect it. Minicamp had no Mo and hardly any Sheldon and Coples was still at OLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 He certainly might, but that will mean more of who on the field? I think we are primarily talking Williams vs. Mauldin. In that case, my money is on Williams. Maybe more Ik or Reilly. If it means that we are going to see more of Babin? No thanks. If you check my post, you will see that I wasn't quoting you. I was quoting a post that said that Coples was being moved. I have never heard a peep that was going to happen and if it were, our offseason was not handled to reflect it. Minicamp had no Mo and hardly and Sheldon and Coples was still at OLB Okay I hear you. It just seemed logical that Coples might see more time on the line. Time will tell. I can see Mauldin and IK definitely getting more reps if that happens. For the record I think Williams is going to more than hold his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenoandtheJets Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I think the Rookie from USC Leonard Williams will step up in for Sheldon Richardson during the 1st 4 games. Other then that Geno Smith needs to step up his play at quarterback the Jets need to win first and foremost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 Jets Front Seven Should Have Time on Their Side By Glenn Naughton Even with the recent news of star defensive end Sheldon Richardson’s four-game suspension to start the 2015 season for violating the league’s substance abuse policy, Jets fans are still hoping for big things from a versatile front-seven on defense given the drastic improvements that were made to what was one of the worst secondaries in the NFL last season. The Jets pass defense ranked sixth in the league, allowing 327 yards per game, but more importantly, they were 24th in the NFL in points allowed with 401 (25.1 ppg). A defensive backfield that allowed 31 touchdowns through the air will look to clamp down on opposing receivers this season and give the Jets front seven some much needed time if they want to turn their quarterback pressures and hits into sacks. With Muhammad Wilkerson, and nose tackle Damon Harrison being joined by first-round draft selection Leonard Williams in Richardson’s absence up front, the trio will look to anchor the Jets’ 3-4 scheme. Head coach Todd Bowles’ penchant for using multiple looks while putting his players in position to succeed could also mean Quinton Coples will be putting his hand in the dirt from time to time. This Jets defensive line is stout, but there are still questions at the linebacker position as veterans Calvin Pace and Jason Babin could find themselves on the bubble if rookie Lorenzo Mauldin or second-year players like IK Enemkpali or Trevor Reilly turn heads in training camp. The hope however, is that no matter who gets the call, the Jets will have more time to get to the quarterback. Linebackers Calvin Pace and David Harris will look to capitalize on Gang Green’s improved secondary. In 2014 the Gang Green managed to tie the Kansas City Chiefs for sixth in the NFL with 45 sacks. This, despite a grossly undermanned secondary that was led by a pair of previously undrafted free agents in Darrin Walls and Marcus Williams starting the majority of the season filling the Jets starting cornerback positions. With a revamped depth chart that includes Darrelle Revis, Antonio Cromartie, Buster Skrine and a hopefully healthy pair of youngsters in Dee Milliner and Dexter McDougle at corner, the Jets should be among the best teams in the NFL at blanketing opposing pass-catchers. For the second season in a row, the aforementioned Coples did a nice job of pressuring the quarterback (11 hits, 21 hurries), but came away with a somewhat disappointing sack total as he got to the QB just seven times. Joining Coples in the “close but no cigar” category were Sheldon Richardson and Muhammad Wilkerson as the trio were the only Jets to register double-digit hits on the QB with 14 and 10 respectively. Even Babin and Pace who totaled a mere 8 sacks still racked up 51 pressures and nine hits. Babin’s 27 hurries were second on the team only to Richardson who led the way with 31. In all, the Jets were credited with 45 sacks, 57 quarterback hits, and 167 hurries according to PFF.com and NFL.com. All numbers that should be on the uptick in 2015. IK Enemkpali hopes to show we he can do coming off the edge. Enemkpali, an under-sized 3-4 outside linebacker at 6′ 1”, 272 lbs possesses some impressive attributes coming off the edge as he showed excellent burst and short-area quickness in limited playing time under Rex Ryan last season. More of an all-around player than Enemkali, Trevor Reilly did have some success in college at Utah where he registered 20 sacks in four seasons, eighteen of which came after his freshman year. The Jets should expect an intense training camp battle between Pace, Babin, Mouldin, Enemkpali, Riley and others as the front-seven could be in a position to overtake the Buffalo Bills who paced the NFL with 54 sacks in 2015. Should the Jets defense make that leap, it will be due largely in part to Mike Maccagnan taking the time to build a roster that would provide its pass-rushers with plenty time of their own. http://www.jetnation.com/2015/07/09/new-york-jets-front-seven-should-have-time-on-their-side/ The bolded is why I picked Coples as the guy who really needs to step up. I think he is going to have a break out season this year anyway and now he has even more motivation to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Williams and douzable should be fine in place of Sheldon. Stop messing around with Q and leave him at the rush LB spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Glenn! You're a source now! Coples has put his hand in the dirt from time to time, all while allegedly being miscast. Going 4-3 is a nice thought, but our backers are probably even worse suited to that. I have not seen anything indicating that Bowles expected to move Coples to DE or that he has practiced there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Glenn! You're a source now! Coples has put his hand in the dirt from time to time, all while allegedly being miscast. Going 4-3 is a nice thought, but our backers are probably even worse suited to that. I have not seen anything indicating that Bowles expected to move Coples to DE or that he has practiced there. Coples is on the line in a 3 point stance in 46 Bear and Nascar formations plus he filled in last year at DE when Wilk was out and I'm sure he'll rotate in with Williams and Wilk in base formations. I don't get the whole hulabaloo about him being miscast he's really a hybrid player who has played well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Since when are the Jets switching to a four man front? When they wake up and take advantage of the talent on hand instead of what the Head Coach is used to. Not meant to be critical of Todd. All Head Coaches are that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Williams, Vickerson, Douzable, Bowen - I'm sure they'll all be used in committee type fashion to replace the Big Dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Big Mo's chance to show he is worth top 5 money. This could be "butterfly effect" situation that ultimately results in big new deal for Mo and moving Richardson for a QB (draft or trade). this is not happening as i expected it to lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I think Ik has a chance to be a James Harrison type LB. I'm NOT saying he will have as much success as Harrison but he's shown flashes of burst. Playing on passing downs as an edge rusher with Mo, Damon & Williams gives him a chance for some 1 on 1s. The talent level & depth of our Dline will naturally make it easier for our LBs to operate & take advantage of mismatches in the opposing teams blocking schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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