Jet Fan RI Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25250890/report-nfl-implements-new-procedures-for-measuring-game-balls Report: NFL implements new procedures for measuring game balls By Ryan Wilson | CBSSports.com July 26, 2015 4:41 pm ET How long commissioner Roger Goodell will wait to rule on Tom Brady's Deflategate appeal is anyone's guess, but the NFL has a plan in place for how game balls will be prepared and monitored during the 2015 season, writes FOXSports analyst and former VP of officials Mike Pereira. A summary of the changes include: Each team will supply 24 footballs -- 12 primary and 12 backup -- two hours and 15 minutes before kickoff. Previously, the home team provided 24 balls while visitors only had to provide 12. Two members of the officiating crew, as designated by the referee, will inspect the footballs to make sure they meet specifications. Previously, that job belonged to the referee. For the first time, records will be kept of footballs' pre-kickoff PSI measurements. Footballs that fall within the acceptable PSI range (12.5-13.5 PSI) will be approved for game play. Those falling outside the range will either be inflated or deflated to 13.0 PSI. More from Pereira: Each NFL game last season had kicking ball coordinator, hired by the league, who has been primarily responsible for the six kicking balls. They will now take custody of all the balls once they've been approved until 10 minutes prior to kickoff. At that point, the kicking ball coordinator, along with a member of the officiating crew and a security representative, will bring the footballs to the on-field replay station. Upon arrival, the game balls will be distributed to each team's ball crew in the presence of the league security representative. The backup balls will remain secured in the officials' locker room until needed. Last season, the league's security representative was not a part of the total process and the kicking ball coordinator was not specifically assigned to be with the footballs the entire time. Pereira calls the new procedures an overreaction but adds, "I think the league has a tendency to do that." (This is where Brady and the Patriots nod their heads knowingly.) "Checking the balls before the game and after the game would have been enough for me," Pereira continues. "The officials have approximately only six minutes in their locker room at halftime as it is. By the time they get off the field and then have to leave to notify the teams with a two-minute warning to get back on the field, that leaves them hardly enough time to catch their breaths." Meanwhile, we wait for Roger to make a decision. When will Roger Goodell weigh in on Deflategate? (USATSI) Topics: Tom Brady, Ryan Wilson, New England Patriots, NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 It's not an over reaction when certain teams*, like to have them deflated to suit their Q.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 my unofficial count is this is the 4th rules change the cheaters forced in one off season I can't believe anybody admits to being a pats* fan in public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Lol, so making sure the footballs are secure and can't be tampered with (after a tampering case in a playoff game) is over-reaction? I would like to hear that the "appropriate" reaction was. Maybe a letter to all the QB's parents, asking them to teach their kids gamesmanship? Have the ball boys attend a leadership and honesty seminar? Put a label warning on the football about the dangers of ball tampering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Lol, so making sure the footballs are secure and can't be tampered with (after a tampering case in a playoff game) is over-reaction? I would like to hear that the "appropriate" reaction was. Maybe a letter to all the QB's parents, asking them to teach their kids gamesmanship? Have the ball boys attend a leadership and honesty seminar? Put a label warning on the football about the dangers of ball tampering? Maybe try reading the whole article? Pereira says exactly what he thinks would be appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Maybe try reading the whole article? Pereira says exactly what he thinks would be appropriate. Ah yes, let's not worry about the integrity of the game, so these officials can catch their breath. It's a shame, that looking after these balls are so labor intensive, I hope they get a raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 my unofficial count is this is the 4th rules change the cheaters forced in one off season I can't believe anybody admits to being a pats* fan in public 4? Please elaborate? And I know you're gonna bring up the LEGAL..let me say it again LEGAL substitutions against the ravens. Again it was legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 my unofficial count is this is the 4th rules change the cheaters forced in one off season I can't believe anybody admits to being a pats* fan in public It is absolutely disgusting and the Pats have hurt the game. It is simply no longer up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 garbs take, Meh everyone does it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 4? Please elaborate? And I know you're gonna bring up the LEGAL..let me say it again LEGAL substitutions against the ravens. Again it was legal. Substitutions against the Ravens were 100% legal, but didn't the league come out and acknowledge that the substitutions vs. the Colts were illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 4? Please elaborate? And I know you're gonna bring up the LEGAL..let me say it again LEGAL substitutions against the ravens. Again it was legal. Never mind...answered my own question...they were in fact cheating again. http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/30/new-england-patriots-illegal-play-ineligible-receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 More reason why Brady should not get his suspension reduced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Never mind...answered my own question...they were in fact cheating again. http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/30/new-england-patriots-illegal-play-ineligible-receiver Outside of a jet forum that is a blown call by the refs, but of course here they cheated. Got it, "sour grapes" i keep forgetting that. And take the touchdown away the Colts still got their ass kicked, take the 1st half away with the illegal footballs and the Colts still got their ass kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 It's amazing, the Patriots cheat - the league changes the rules The Patriots bitch - the league changes the rules. Goodell and the Patriots have ruined this league. Ruined it. Sunday's just arent genuine anymore. It's run by a Czar, who answers how high, to a team that has challenged the integrity of the game, every time they take the field. NFL is pro-wrestling. Nothing more, nothing less. Saturday's rule now and that's no fun because the Gators are going to be a hard to watch type of awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Half the fugging rule book is in place because of the Pats. - tuck rule, called once, never called again quietly removed. - Low hits on QBs. Ignored when Carson Palmer got hurt vs p[Pittsburgh, instantly installed after Brady got hurt. - Substitution declaring, Pats exploit the rule to their advantege, rule change 10 minutes later. - Cheat via ball tampering, new rules in place. They need a special section in the rule book called, 'Rules because of the Pats'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 If it goes to court- this is one of things I read the union will argue- there was no set rule in place for what the pressures supposed to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 If it goes to court- this is one of things I read the union will argue- there was no set rule in place for what the pressures supposed to be Sounds pretty weird. The Wells report even quotes the current pressure rule. And tampering with balls after the refs approve them is evidently cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 4? Please elaborate? And I know you're gonna bring up the LEGAL..let me say it again LEGAL substitutions against the ravens. Again it was legal. They played with the intent of the rule, don't be stupid. So let's recap, video rules for the Pats Hitting and beating WRs led to new rules. Substitution rules. Magically deflating balls Don't worry your scumbag team and HCs legacy is the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 If it goes to court- this is one of things I read the union will argue- there was no set rule in place for what the pressures supposed to be That's not true. Brady was part of the group that was part of setting the guidelines years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 They played with the intent of the rule, don't be stupid. So let's recap, video rules for the Pats Hitting and beating WRs led to new rules. Substitution rules. Magically deflating balls Don't worry your scumbag team and HCs legacy is the same substitutions were LEGAL. Point blank. "hitting and beating WRs" come on? Are you that much a whiney fan? Sour grape, i gotta remember sour grapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Half the fugging rule book is in place because of the Pats. - tuck rule, called once, never called again quietly removed. - Low hits on QBs. Ignored when Carson Palmer got hurt vs p[Pittsburgh, instantly installed after Brady got hurt. - Substitution declaring, Pats exploit the rule to their advantege, rule change 10 minutes later. - Cheat via ball tampering, new rules in place. They need a special section in the rule book called, 'Rules because of the Pats'. Tuck rule was called against the pats vs the jets in favor of the jets. (can not remember if it was that same year or the year after) and a few other teams benefited from that rule as well before the NFL done away with the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 substitutions were LEGAL. Point blank. "hitting and beating WRs" come on? Are you that much a whiney fan? Sour grape, i gotta remember sour grapes. In your mind they were legal. Too bad the intent of the rule wasn't to trick teams, wasn't a cheap way to play. Which explains why they changed the rule. That you aren't old enough or didn't become a Pats fan until later isn't my problem. If you don't know that the mugging coached by the Pats and carried out by Law, Malloy and Harrison, the mugging that went over the line is what led to changes in the rules, too bad. But that's what happened. These are facts aren't sour grapes. Or whining. That's a goofy argument that makes no sense on any level. Sorry if I know your team better than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 In your mind they were legal. Too bad the intent of the rule wasn't to trick teams, wasn't a cheap way to play. Which explains why they changed the rule. That you aren't old enough or didn't become a Pats fan until later isn't my problem. If you don't know that the mugging coached by the Pats and carried out by Law, Malloy and Harrison, the mugging that went over the line is what led to changes in the rules, too bad. But that's what happened. These are facts aren't sour grapes. Or whining. That's a goofy argument that makes no sense on any level. Sorry if I know your team better than you. *face palm* About a week after the ravens game, the nfl came out and said there was nothing illegal about the substitutions. All you're doing is crying about it now. and i'm Iaughing about me NOW being a pats fan. Been a fan way before Drew Bledsoe got there, try again. The rest of your post is just sour grapes, so the only emotion i have is to laugh at it. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Outside of a jet forum that is a blown call by the refs, but of course here they cheated. Got it, "sour grapes" i keep forgetting that. And take the touchdown away the Colts still got their ass kicked, take the 1st half away with the illegal footballs and the Colts still got their ass kicked. I'm being realistic here and you're just in denial. Sometimes they cheat, sometimes they don't. No need to pretend they continually gain a strategic advantage time and again by accident. I'm not so sure you're using the term "sour grapes" correctly either. Are you saying that I'm jealous of the fact that the Pats keep getting caught cheating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I'm being realistic here and you're just in denial. Sometimes they cheat, sometimes they don't. No need to pretend they continually gain a strategic advantage time and again by accident. I'm not so sure you're using the term "sour grapes" correctly either. Are you saying that I'm jealous of the fact that the Pats keep getting caught cheating? In denial about what? You're implying that "the substitutions" done in the Colts game was the pats cheating. Which was the same thing they did during the ravens game which was ruled by the NFL as legal. The touch down during the Colts game was no more than a blown call by the refs, nothing to do with cheating. Especially if it was a legal practice just a week before, and that's why i'm calling "sour grapes" There's nothing for me to be in denial about. You never read any post in here from me agreeing with the ball tampering. Wrong pat fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 In denial about what? You're implying that "the substitutions" done in the Colts game was the pats cheating. Which was the same thing they did during the ravens game which was ruled by the NFL as legal. The touch down during the Colts game was no more than a blown call by the refs, nothing to do with cheating. Especially if it was a legal practice just a week before, and that's why i'm calling "sour grapes" There's nothing for me to be in denial about. You never read any post in here from me agreeing with the ball tampering. Wrong pat fan. What they did against the Ravens was legal. What they did against the Colts was illegal...click the link here -----> http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/30/new-england-patriots-illegal-play-ineligible-receiver Like I said, they cheat...sometimes they get caught, sometimes they don't. When they do get caught, the NFL re-writes the rule book...good stuff. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 What they did against the Ravens was legal. What they did against the Colts was illegal...click the link here -----> http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/30/new-england-patriots-illegal-play-ineligible-receiver Like I said, they cheat...sometimes they get caught, sometimes they don't. When they do get caught, the NFL re-writes the rule book...good stuff. . read it before. ha ha....but going off this, every missed call in the NFL by the refs should be viewed as a team cheating. Ok. got it! nothing to see here. Just sour grapes, as i said before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 read it before. ha ha....but going off this, every missed call in the NFL by the refs should be viewed as a team cheating. Ok. got it! nothing to see here. Just sour grapes, as i said before. Can't say I blame ya...if the Jets cheated their way to some rings I'd probably do exactly what you're doing so I'm not gonna' be a hypocrite and pretend I wouldn't enjoy the ride no matter what rules were broken along the way. Given the choice though, win a ring dirty or win a ring clean, I'd obviously prefer clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 When Brady's QBR is 20 points higher after halftime this season we will know why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Can't say I blame ya...if the Jets cheated their way to some rings I'd probably do exactly what you're doing so I'm not gonna' be a hypocrite and pretend I wouldn't enjoy the ride no matter what rules were broken along the way. Given the choice though, win a ring dirty or win a ring clean, I'd obviously prefer clean. I think hypocrisy has a bad rap. I hate the Pats and thus am glad they are being punished. If Jets did it, they should get off scott free. I also hope the Pats come down with the flu before facing the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Can't say I blame ya...if the Jets cheated their way to some rings I'd probably do exactly what you're doing so I'm not gonna' be a hypocrite and pretend I wouldn't enjoy the ride no matter what rules were broken along the way. Given the choice though, win a ring dirty or win a ring clean, I'd obviously prefer clean. I will never expect much fans outside of N.E. to view their rings as anything but tainted. So i wouldnt waste my time. But i know i read reports,and former players and coaches come out and put spygate n deflategate in its proper perspective so theirs rings are pretty legit and said to be as well by countless others n creditable sources. So big deal if a fan doesn't like them or think they cheated in my eyes. PS: i hope you start calling for the NFL to take away the accolades of 49ers for their HOF receiver and linemen using illegal substances on their hands to gain a competitive edge as well. All confirmed by Joe Montana and Jerry Rice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 *face palm* About a week after the ravens game, the nfl came out and said there was nothing illegal about the substitutions. All you're doing is crying about it now. and i'm Iaughing about me NOW being a pats fan. Been a fan way before Drew Bledsoe got there, try again. The rest of your post is just sour grapes, so the only emotion i have is to laugh at it. Carry on. You're a clueless homer. If you've been a fan since Bledsoe you're a sh*tty one if you don't remember all the talk about Law, Milloy and Harrison for starters. Enough lessons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 You're a clueless homer. If you've been a fan since Bledsoe you're a sh*tty one if you don't remember all the talk about Law, Milloy and Harrison for starters. Enough lessons Ha ha ok. Whatever you say there buddy ole pal ole buddy! lol. Funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Half the fugging rule book is in place because of the Pats. - tuck rule, called once, never called again quietly removed. - Low hits on QBs. Ignored when Carson Palmer got hurt vs p[Pittsburgh, instantly installed after Brady got hurt. - Substitution declaring, Pats exploit the rule to their advantege, rule change 10 minutes later. - Cheat via ball tampering, new rules in place. They need a special section in the rule book called, 'Rules because of the Pats'. You are 100% with this post my friend!!! Utter garbage..... I say it every time, the NFL has been seriously damaged by the Pats as an organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 PS: i hope you start calling for the NFL to take away the accolades of 49ers for their HOF receiver and linemen using illegal substances on their hands to gain a competitive edge as well. All confirmed by Joe Montana and Jerry Rice. The Black Sox are the only pre-interwebz cheaters that ever existed, mainly to serve as a reference point for the Patriots. Nobody cares about the Leo Durochers, Pat Bowlens and Jerry Rices of the world who all cheated their way to championships because they are prehistoric and any mention of them is just "everybody does it" deflection from the Patriots' cheating ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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