FloridaJetsFan Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 yeah but belichick should get credit for finding guys like gronk, edelman, welker, hernandez, lafell - some of those guys were nobodies - and bringing in guys like Moss when people thought he was finished. All players that BRADY made better, not Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 yeah but belichick should get credit for finding guys like gronk, edelman, welker, hernandez, lafell - some of those guys were nobodies - and bringing in guys like Moss when people thought he was finished. Moss was 30 when the Pats picked him up, Nobody thought he was finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Moss was 30 when the Pats picked him up, Nobody thought he was finished. People wrote him off after his sh*tty year in Oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 I wonder if T0m has tried that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 University of Foxboro I applied but was denied. Had to settle for Florham Park Community College Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 If the Patriots lost the SB instead of won, then all the nonsense about them winning the SB would be totally different? OK, point taken. Hard to believe someone could miss the point this badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Hard to believe someone could miss the point this badly. Normally a point has to be made before it can be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Normally a point has to be made before it can be missed. So saying if Wilson throws the ball a foot in front of his WR its a TD and a totally different conversation somehow got past you? You can't get a simple point like that? Really, you're going to argue that no point was made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 yeah but belichick should get credit for finding guys like gronk, edelman, welker, hernandez, lafell - some of those guys were nobodies - and bringing in guys like Moss when people thought he was finished. What's amazing is he didn't bring in a far more extensive list of busts. Just incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 So saying if Wilson throws the ball a foot in front of his WR its a TD and a totally different conversation somehow got past you? You can't get a simple point like that? Really, you're going to argue that no point was made? No, if that was your point, the point was made, and I thought it was mind-numbingly stupid. That was the "point" of my posts #24 and 28. Your reponses to those posts suggested that you were trying to make a different point. I understand now that you were not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 yeah but belichick should get credit for finding guys like gronk, edelman, welker, hernandez, lafell - some of those guys were nobodies - and bringing in guys like Moss when people thought he was finished. Gronk and Hernandez were the best 2 TEs in their class, and were only available as late as they were because of Gronk's injury history and Hernandez's off-field concerns. You're wrong. Welker emerged in Miami. The Patriots traded a 2nd rounder and then some to get him. You don't trade 2nd rounders for nobodies. You're wrong again. Lafell is the same player in NE that he was in Carolina, but with a better QB. Not a nobody and not someone that was turned into a stud either. You're trending on wrong. Edelman was in fact a nobody that was developed by the Pats. Congrats, you nailed it on this one! Moss done? The wrongness is strong in this one... so Edelman was a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 So the conceit here is that efficiency on third down and in the red zone is the product of Ph.D.s in footballogy, and not of a Hall of Fame quarterback THAT CHEATS LIKE A TWO CARD MONTY? Cool story bro FIXED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 It hurts as a Jet fan to read the article, but it's true, and that last Jet-Patriot game mentioned is exactly what I had been thinking. Geno outplayed Brady, Rex had frustrated Brady again with a brilliant defensive plan, and our D played great, yet we lost because of two Geno mistakes late in the game, namely, an underthrow to Amaro, and later when he backpeddled out of field goal position, our FG attempt was blocked, and we lost again. The point is - we outplayed them, yet we lost. This happens a lot with New England. It's a matter of being clutch, which we aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 It hurts as a Jet fan to read the article, but it's true, and that last Jet-Patriot game mentioned is exactly what I had been thinking. Geno outplayed Brady, Rex had frustrated Brady again with a brilliant defensive plan, and our D played great, yet we lost because of two Geno mistakes late in the game, namely, an underthrow to Amaro, and later when he backpeddled out of field goal position, our FG attempt was blocked, and we lost again. The point is - we outplayed them, yet we lost. This happens a lot with New England. It's a matter of being clutch, which we aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 People wrote him off after his sh*tty year in Oakland. His bad year? The team was 2-14 the QB's were Andrew Walter,Marquis Tuiasosopo and Aaron Brooks who had a combined 9 tds and 25 picks but it's Moss's fault for a bad year?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 His bad year? The team was 2-14 the QB's were Andrew Walter,Marquis Tuiasosopo and Aaron Brooks who had a combined 9 tds and 25 picks but it's Moss's fault for a bad year?? he skipped practices to go fishing, people thought he was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 he skipped practices to go fishing, people thought he was done. The Raiders really sucked those years fishing sounds like a good idea..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Pete Carrol will never lives this down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 So somehow punt return average is based on intelligence, but Yards per offensive play is dumb luck. fumbles are obviously based on the intelligence of the HC as well as field goal percentage. When the Pats lost to the Jets while out gaining us (Which has happened) you just know that this guy said Rex was smarter than Bellichick. What about the Giant SBs. Eli really outsmarted Brady in those games. Was it smart of Brady, and Bellichick to "accidently" drop his cellphone in the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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