BlakeSpenceBlockedPunt Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I spent some time just now and listened to Todd's press conferences. It's absolutely amazing the difference between his press conferences and what we've grown accustomed to. He never takes the bait when you can tell the reporters are tossing out a question with a particular agenda. He is extremely pragmatic about performance and expectations. He answers the questions and then he brings the player down to earth. He literally calls it as it is. I love it. I've talked about credibility in the past. I never could tell what was hyperbole or a real assessment. I feel with this guy we get the straight deal on the player and where he is and what he needs to do. Thank goodness. He was a player. He knows that what matters are results...not flash. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 All that really matters is a HC's press conference, as far as I'm concerned. The rest is cream cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 All that really matters is a HC's press conference, as far as I'm concerned. The rest is cream cheese. all that matters is the W-L record, if a coach wins then his style gets praised(like Rex '09-'10), if he doesn't the style gets bashed and they bring in someone new. I really like everything I have seen from Bowles but I have seen so many coaching changes in my life to know how giddy everyone gets when someone new is in charge. Just give us results, I don't care how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I spent some time just now and listened to Todd's press conferences. It's absolutely amazing the difference between his press conferences and what we've grown accustomed to. He never takes the bait when you can tell the reporters are tossing out a question with a particular agenda. He is extremely pragmatic about performance and expectations. He answers the questions and then he brings the player down to earth. He literally calls it as it is. I love it. I've talked about credibility in the past. I never could tell what was hyperbole or a real assessment. I feel with this guy we get the straight deal on the player and where he is and what he needs to do. Thank goodness. He was a player. He knows that what matters are results...not flash. I like it. Let us know how important this is and how many wins the differences in approach to handling pressers will translate into. Because the assclown who is responsible for the worst pressers ever is a pretty good HC and heading to the HOF on the first ballot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Let us know how important this is and how many wins the differences in approach to handling pressers will translate into. Because the assclown who is responsible for the worst pressers ever is a pretty good HC and heading to the HOF on the first ballot +1 BB looks like he is in pain talking to the Press.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I spent some time just now and listened to Todd's press conferences. It's absolutely amazing the difference between his press conferences and what we've grown accustomed to. He never takes the bait when you can tell the reporters are tossing out a question with a particular agenda. He is extremely pragmatic about performance and expectations. He answers the questions and then he brings the player down to earth. He literally calls it as it is. I love it. I've talked about credibility in the past. I never could tell what was hyperbole or a real assessment. I feel with this guy we get the straight deal on the player and where he is and what he needs to do. Thank goodness. He was a player. He knows that what matters are results...not flash. I like it. Yeah, it's called Competence. Apt is another word for it. Measured is probably the best description. The predecessor between the headphones was an absolute blowhard reactive buffoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yeah, it's called Competence. Apt is another word for it. Measured is probably the best description. The predecessor between the headphones was an absolute blowhard reactive buffoon. did you feel like that when he was leading us to championship games? only one coach in our history has led us to 2 AFC/AFL title games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yeah, it's called Competence. Apt is another word for it. Measured is probably the best description. The predecessor between the headphones was an absolute blowhard reactive buffoon. In other words like most Jet fans.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 In all honesty, I don't care if he pees on the podium before every presser. If his team wins a Super Bowl, I'll love every thing he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 did you feel like that when he was leading us to championship games? only one coach in our history has led us to 2 AFC/AFL title games. Yes. His press conferences indicated he had NO IDEA how to properly answer a question, let alone a loaded question with an agenda. I read his book and was CONVINCED we had a moron running the show. There's a reason Biscotti, and it was clearly implied in Rex's OWN ghost-written autobiography, didn't hire Rex as a head coach of the Ravens despite complimenting incessantly. There's a reason Biscotti is a savvy Billionaire businessman, he KNOWS who to hire (see Jon Harbaugh, a ST coach in'07) and who to not hire. You don't have to be intelligent to be a ball coach, but it helps in this adverse media market. Those '09/'10 teams were Mangini's not Rex's. Rex was along for the ride on someone else's coat tails; 2011-2014 convinced me of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 In all honesty, I don't care if he pees on the podium before every presser. If his team wins a Super Bowl, I'll love every thing he does. If Bowles brings us a Super Bowl, I'll lie down under the podium while he pees. Maybe some of that greatness will trickle down onto me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yes. His press conferences indicated he had NO IDEA how to properly answer a question, let alone a loaded question with an agenda. I read his book and was CONVINCED we had a moron running the show. There's a reason Biscotti, and it was clearly implied in Rex's OWN ghost-written autobiography, didn't hire Rex as a head coach of the Ravens despite complimenting incessantly. There's a reason Biscotti is a savvy Billionaire businessman, he KNOWS who to hire (see Jon Harbaugh, a ST coach in'07) and who to not hire. You don't have to be intelligent to be a ball coach, but it helps in the adverse media market. Those '09/'10 teams were Mangini's not Rex's. Rex was along for the ride and someone else's coat tails; 2011-2014 convinced me of that. How did Mangini do w/ those teams? couldn't even get them to the playoffs in '08 w/o Tom Brady around and w/ a future HOF QB. Rex would have won SBs in Baltimore w/ all the talent they have had and Newsome keeps providing. Rex took underachieving talent and became the only coach in NYJ history to give us 2 chances to make SBs. after 2010 the talent began to erode, by 2012 it was a joke what the QB had to throw to but w/ talent Rex wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yes. His press conferences indicated he had NO IDEA how to properly answer a question, let alone a loaded question with an agenda. I read his book and was CONVINCED we had a moron running the show. There's a reason Biscotti, and it was clearly implied in Rex's OWN ghost-written autobiography, didn't hire Rex as a head coach of the Ravens despite complimenting incessantly. There's a reason Biscotti is a savvy Billionaire businessman, he KNOWS who to hire (see Jon Harbaugh, a ST coach in'07) and who to not hire. You don't have to be intelligent to be a ball coach, but it helps in the adverse media market. Those '09/'10 teams were Mangini's not Rex's. Rex was along for the ride and someone else's coat tails; 2011-2014 convinced me of that. Yep Mangini left him set at QB which is the least important position on the team.. Mangini made the Playoffs thanks to Herm and the Tuna that left him Chad. You remember Chad the QB Mangini dumped that led the Fins to win the East in 2008... Funny Mangini was so good he never won a Playoff game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yep Mangini left him set at QB which is the least important position on the team.. Mangini made the Playoffs thanks to Herm and the Tuna that left him Chad. You remember Chad the QB Mangini dumped that led the Fins to win the East in 2008... Funny Mangini was so good he never won a Playoff game.. everyone wants to give previous regimes credit. I remember fans doing that w/ Herm but look at the teams BP won w/ and they were built from previous regimes. Mangini wasn't the GM and he failed w/ the players he helped bring here under Tannenbaum. Rex succeeded w/ them. he had 2 losing seasons in 6 years, 1 he lost the best player on the team(and really in franchise history) week 3 and the best playmaker on O soon after and the next losing season was 2014 when they had a very flawed team and absolutely no corners after Milliner went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 did you feel like that when he was leading us to championship games? only one coach in our history has led us to 2 AFC/AFL title games. Boom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 everyone wants to give previous regimes credit. I remember fans doing that w/ Herm but look at the teams BP won w/ and they were built from previous regimes. Mangini wasn't the GM and he failed w/ the players he helped bring here under Tannenbaum. Rex succeeded w/ them. he had 2 losing seasons in 6 years, 1 he lost the best player on the team(and really in franchise history) week 3 and the best playmaker on O soon after and the next losing season was 2014 when they had a very flawed team and absolutely no corners after Milliner went down. Look what happened to the Tuna in 1999 when Vinny went down in the first game..The team started 1-6 before he put in Lucas it wasn't because all of a sudden the Tuna forgot how to coach.. Rex has his faults but when some compare him to Kotite it makes me laugh.. And Kotite did leave the Tuna a QB that made a Bowl plus KJ,Wayne,Mo Lewis,Marvin Jones,Hugh Douglas,Aaron Glenn,Victor Green,Murrell,etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yep Mangini left him set at QB which is the least important position on the team.. Mangini made the Playoffs thanks to Herm and the Tuna that left him Chad. You remember Chad the QB Mangini dumped that led the Fins to win the East in 2008... Funny Mangini was so good he never won a Playoff game.. OH MY GOD...... DID YOU JUST GIVE FLIM FLAM MAN SOME CREDIT!! WE ARE SB BOUND BABY!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 OH MY GOD...... DID YOU JUST GIVE FLIM FLAM MAN SOME CREDIT!! WE ARE SB BOUND BABY!!!!! Come on CB I have always said no does ribs and chicken better then the Flim Flam BBQ man.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Look what happened to the Tuna in 1999 when Vinny went down in the first game..The team started 1-6 before he put in Lucas it wasn't because all of a sudden the Tuna forgot how to coach.. Rex has his faults but when some compare him to Kotite it makes me laugh.. And Kotite did leave the Tuna a QB that made a Bowl plus KJ,Wayne,Mo Lewis,Marvin Jones,Hugh Douglas,Aaron Glenn,Victor Green,Murrell,etc Kotite!! Do folks realize that Kotite was one of the worst HCs in ANY SPORT!!! So no..... Rex isn't even in the same discussion as Kotite!!! Kotite.. Good Grief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Kotite!! Do folks realize that Kotite was one of the worst HCs in ANY SPORT!!! So no..... Rex isn't even in the same discussion as Kotite!!! Kotite.. Good Grief! Now Buddy Ryan did leave him a good Eagle team that went 10-6 and 11-5 his first 2 years.. And Kotite has a playoff win that Mangini doesn't..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Now Buddy Ryan did leave him a good Eagle team that went 10-6 and 11-5 his first 2 years.. And Kotite has a playoff win that Mangini doesn't..LOL and 1 more playoff win than Buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I swear we have the same five arguments just sprinkled into hundreds of new threads over the last decade. We need new material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeSpenceBlockedPunt Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 I think you guys/gals are missing the point. Watching Bowles' press conferences it's easy to see the culture change around the Jets. If you recall, we were the laughingstock of the league, even when we were going to Championship games. Guarantees, extreme hyperbole about player performance (merited or not) that were literally cringeworthy. And then when we were playing poorly those same behaviors never changed...and made us all look like fools. We'd get beat by 20 and be talking about how we're the best in the business. You folks remember how that felt? Compare that to the sample we've seen thus far. The culture now is about what you do...not what is said. He's realistic and calls it as it is. One play of day in TC doesn't make someone an all-pro. To me, an ardent observer of the NFL, this type of behavior from a HC is much more conducive to long term success than what we've had. It's also much more conducive to a culture of a team that plays the best players...regardless of reputation. You play well and deliver quality...you play. If not, you get replaced by the next guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 +1 BB looks like he is in pain talking to the Press.. I hope he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I think you guys/gals are missing the point. Watching Bowles' press conferences it's easy to see the culture change around the Jets. If you recall, we were the laughingstock of the league, even when we were going to Championship games. Guarantees, extreme hyperbole about player performance (merited or not) that were literally cringeworthy. And then when we were playing poorly those same behaviors never changed...and made us all look like fools. We'd get beat by 20 and be talking about how we're the best in the business. You folks remember how that felt? Compare that to the sample we've seen thus far. The culture now is about what you do...not what is said. He's realistic and calls it as it is. One play of day in TC doesn't make someone an all-pro. To me, an ardent observer of the NFL, this type of behavior from a HC is much more conducive to long term success than what we've had. It's also much more conducive to a culture of a team that plays the best players...regardless of reputation. You play well and deliver quality...you play. If not, you get replaced by the next guy. we were not a laughing stock, we were treated as a top team in the AFC like we were. we didn't become a laughing stock until Tebow and the circus arrived. Rex talked big and his team backed it up the first couple of years. The culture change means nothing if we don't win. Whenever there is a coaching change we hear about "culture change". when Herm took over for Groh it was about culture change, when Mangini took over for Herm it was about going back to the BP type culture, when Rex took over for Mangini it was about a culture change and again now and whoever takes over for Bowles(hopefully in about 10-15 years) they will talk about changing the culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I think you guys/gals are missing the point. Watching Bowles' press conferences it's easy to see the culture change around the Jets. If you recall, we were the laughingstock of the league, even when we were going to Championship games. Guarantees, extreme hyperbole about player performance (merited or not) that were literally cringeworthy. And then when we were playing poorly those same behaviors never changed...and made us all look like fools. We'd get beat by 20 and be talking about how we're the best in the business. You folks remember how that felt? Compare that to the sample we've seen thus far. The culture now is about what you do...not what is said. He's realistic and calls it as it is. One play of day in TC doesn't make someone an all-pro. To me, an ardent observer of the NFL, this type of behavior from a HC is much more conducive to long term success than what we've had. It's also much more conducive to a culture of a team that plays the best players...regardless of reputation. You play well and deliver quality...you play. If not, you get replaced by the next guy. So you're saying he's a real deze and doze guy? Listen, I like what I'm reading about and from Bowles a lot. Wishing it was hotter in training camp, and implying that anyone upset about the heat needs to work on their mental toughness? Yeah, that's good stuff. But the bold above? That's just wishful thinking on your part at this stage of the game. Again, we've heard good things about Maccagnan staying out of the coach's way when it comes to who plays, but let's see how it all plays out. So far so good, but we haven't even seen a preseason game yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Me thinks some are obsessed with Rex Ryan. Forget him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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