Raideraholic Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 if that finger touched his face, it could be the finger doesn't have to touch him, and long as the person perceived it as a threat- that person has the right to defend himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Yup, considering you argued with me about how Bowles said that Geno's not innocent, which you kindly changed to innocent and then proceeded to change the topic of our argument to me saying that Bowles said that both of them are equally to blame, when I said he was disappointed in both of them. You constantly change quotes and change my argument to fit your agenda. That's falsifying information bud. Find where I said he said innocent. Go ahead. Find it. Never used that word to start. Then go to your dictionary and find where disappointed translates to guilty. I said Bowles said he didn't put a finger on IK, didn't put a finger in his face and if he did he still shouldn't be punched. That's fact and the rest is you twisting and spinning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Yeah that's totes what you obviously stand for. it does. I believe that you treat people how you want to be treated. I also believe an eye for an eye. or maybe 2 eyes for an eye. I liked how the wild west was run. not everything about it,but if you chose to be disrespectful to somebody, you knew there were consequences. maybe that why people were so respectful back then and watched how they talked to people. so yes, to a point, I believe in violence to control bad attitudes. in a society where you can treat someone like human garbage but cannot touch them, well that just makes me sick. I have seen it 1000 times and don't like it. yea,every time it pops up on this message board where some azzhole gets hit, I tend to defend the assaulter(don't know if that's actually a real word) and criticize the azzhole. and I catch hell every time. you would think that I would learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Raiderholic with the legal analysis. This thread has it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 every time it pops up on this message board where some azzhole gets hit, I tend to defend the assaulter(don't know if that's actually a real word) and criticize the azzhole. and I catch hell every time. Have you considered the possibility that maybe it's you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Find where I said he said innocent. Go ahead. Find it. Never used that word to start. Then go to your dictionary and find where disappointed translates to guilty. I said Bowles said he didn't put a finger on IK, didn't put a finger in his face and if he did he still shouldn't be punched. That's fact and the rest is you twisting and spinning Jet Nut, on 11 Aug 2015 - 2:29 PM, said: He said no one ever hits another man. Ever. Over and over. Geno did not start this more than once. He's innocent other than it takes two. Those were his words. IK was cut. His team was told, you do not hit another person, it wont be tolerated. What more do you need? Go back to school, youre not finished learning Boy oh boy, what do we have here. Any more bullsh*t you want to spew out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 You know what you'd find if you looked up violence in the dictionary? The definition of violence. Which is EXACTLY how I'd describe Connecticut. not that it matters, but you would be surprised. lots of high crime rates per capita in Connecticut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Do you still charge full price, even though you're half a fag? lol. that's funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 This.... I'm very close to the point where I simply can't watch the NFL. Jets or no Jets it's gotten out of control and it's hard to really respect these people. From Commissioner, to owners to coaches down to the players. I am with you 100% No one get it everything; in creation is subject to impermanence and that includes to the NFL. The NFL and the teams have no integrity and it is getting harder and harder to stomach. From inflated footballs to beating women and now total disrespect in the game itself. Yes these happened in the game in the past but it was hidden and fans weren't asked to be in effect coconspirators to the leagues debauchery..... Oh and Rex has no integrity, his former QB gets injured in a beat down and he picks the guy up who did it... He's a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 not that it matters, but you would be surprised. lots of high crime rates per capita in Connecticut. Bunch of insurance fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Have you considered the possibility that maybe it's you? Apparently not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Find where I said he said innocent. Go ahead. Find it. Never used that word to start. Then go to your dictionary and find where disappointed translates to guilty. I said Bowles said he didn't put a finger on IK, didn't put a finger in his face and if he did he still shouldn't be punched. That's fact and the rest is you twisting and spinning Jet Nut, on 11 Aug 2015 - 2:25 PM, said: As I said you cant comprehend what was said. His words were Geno was innocent. Sorry Their's another quote for you, might want to check your history their bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Have you considered the possibility that maybe it's you? no. I hold plenty of conversations on this board without issues. been posting here for awhile now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Raiderholic with the legal analysis. This thread has it all. Enough Raider fans have spent time in jail, that we understand the criminal justice system.( what you can , and can't do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Jet Nut, on 11 Aug 2015 - 2:29 PM, said: Boy oh boy, what do we have here. Any more bullsh*t you want to spew out. Guess this means you're not going to find me saying innocent or be able to show how dissapointed in Geno translates into he deserved it/is just as guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Have you considered the possibility that maybe it's you? if you mean do I think my opinion is too strong on these particular issues and I affend certain people? that's a possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Bunch of insurance fraud. white collar. but seriously, Hartford is really bad. murder rate is really high there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Bunch of insurance fraud. Movie bootleggers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Jet Nut, on 11 Aug 2015 - 2:25 PM, said: Their's another quote for you, might want to check your history their bud. I said Bowles said a man doesn't hit another man who didn't hit him first. How does that translate into whatever you're trying to argue? How does the word innocent change it? Sh1t you guys are dense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raideraholic Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I am with you 100% No one get it everything; in creation is subject to impermanence and that includes to the NFL. The NFL and the teams have no integrity and it is getting harder and harder to stomach. From inflated footballs to beating women and now total disrespect in the game itself. Yes these happened in the game in the past but it was hidden and fans weren't asked to be in effect coconspirators to the leagues debauchery..... Oh and Rex has no integrity, his former QB gets injured in a beat down and he picks the guy up who did it... He's a joke! How about a player that can't say no to drugs, runs away from the police going 144 miles, with a 12 year old kid in the car. That's two weeks after he was suspended for four games for failing his fourth drug test). Do you have a problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Enough Raider fans have spent time in jail, that we understand the criminal justice system.( what you can , and can't do) Unfortunately enough Raider fans haven't spent time in school that they understand commas (what they are and aren't for). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Guess this means you're not going to find me saying innocent or be able to show how dissapointed in Geno translates into he deserved it/is just as guilty. Can you not read? Your post literally states to "find where I said he said innocent." Which I just did, twice even. Keep spewing out your bullsh*t though, your like a woman in how you constantly change the topic of the argument and falsify quotes to ensure you win an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh4dy15 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 You're walking in your neighborhood and man runs up to you, with his finger in your face. How do you know what his intentions are. (does he have a weapon,) You're crazy if you think you don't have the right to defend yourself. I don't know if they charge Geno Smith with assault, ( he (Ik)felt threatened by his actions and he defended himself. Geno Smith kept his distance than Ik wouldn't have perceived it as a threat.( than if Ik charges him he would be the aggressor) Wow. Does he have a weapon? Wtf are you even talking about at this point? I'll tell you what I wouldn't do...punch him in the face and break his jaw. And that's a ****in stranger. This is pointless. There's zero comparison here and waving your finger in someone's face isn't assault no matter how you cut it. Figures...Raider fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 if you mean do I think my opinion is too strong on these particular issues and I affend certain people? that's a possibility No I mean have you considered the possibility that you're actually saying a bunch of dumb sh*t and that maybe the responses you are drawing are justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Can you not read? Your post literally states to "find where I said he said innocent." Which I just did, twice even. Keep spewing out your bullsh*t though, your like a woman in how you constantly change the topic of the argument and falsify quotes to ensure you win an argument. Who cares, your point is wrong. Move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Find where I said he said innocent. Go ahead. Find it. Never used that word to start. Then go to your dictionary and find where disappointed translates to guilty. I said Bowles said he didn't put a finger on IK, didn't put a finger in his face and if he did he still shouldn't be punched. That's fact and the rest is you twisting and spinning Also, disappointed does not mean equally guilty, so I have no idea where the hell your post is coming from on that topic. I never said Bowles thought Geno was equally/more guilty then IK. I said he was disappointed in both of them. He was pissed off with IK, but he was also disappointed in Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 You're walking in your neighborhood and man runs up to you, with his finger in your face. How do you know what his intentions are. (does he have a weapon,) You're crazy if you think you don't have the right to defend yourself. I don't know if they charge Geno Smith with assault, ( he (Ik)felt threatened by his actions and he defended himself. Geno Smith kept his distance than Ik wouldn't have perceived it as a threat.( than if Ik charges him he would be the aggressor) nobody is getting charged with anything. geno and ik will make a statement on how it was just a big misunderstanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Enough Raider fans have spent time in jail, that we understand the criminal justice system.( what you can , and can't do) ABA proctor: You didn't list your school. Raiderholic: I didn't go to law school. Proctor: Then...what? Why are you here? Raiderholic: I dunno, figured I've been to enough Raider games and I fully understand what people can, and can't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 No I mean have you considered the possibility that you're actually saying a bunch of dumb sh*t and that maybe the responses you are drawing are justified. Looks like I jumped on just in time for the bro-down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I think Rex Ryan will be signing this guy tomorrow too Massachusetts man assaulted 7 officers during traffic stop JASON SILVERSTEINNEW YORK DAILY NEWS 08/11/2015 2:33 PM ET Updated 08/12/2015 8:35 AM ET SUFFOLK CO. DISTRICT ATTORNEY Joseph Parker salutes in his mugshot after his arrest for allegedly assaulting seven police officers. He reported for duty — as a lunatic. A Massachusetts man, who gave a salute in his shirtless mug shot, assaulted seven Revere police officers after what was supposed to be a simple traffic stop, police said in a statement. Joseph Parker, 34, of Wakefield, was driving through a construction zone when police asked him to slow down at about 12:40 a.m. Tuesday morning, police said. Instead, Parker allegedly jumped out of his car and punched one officer, Lt. Jeremiah Goodwin, in the head. He then headed towards a second officer. Goodwin fell on concrete after Parker punched him, and suffered a concussion. That started a violent spree that included attacking three officers who tried to arrest him, and three more cops once he was booked at the police station, authorities said. Police said Parker appeared to be on drugs during the alleged attack, screaming “F--- you cops with your guns” and ranting about Ferguson, Mo. Man allegedly injures 7 Revere police officers during rampage WCVB - Boston, MA He also allegedly told the officers “I know why you stopped me.” After assaulting Goodwin, two passengers in Parker’s car exited the vehicle and tried to restrain him as the second officer called for backup. When handcuffed in the back of a police car he kicked a window several times in an attempt to break the glass and flee the cruiser. Once the glass cracked, he then removed his shoes and tried to stick it through in a failed attempt to escape, police said. He was also Tased a few times but it had little effect. Authorities also said his story changed multiple times, and his behavior was erratic and nonsensical, the station reported. He appeared to calm down by the time he arrived at the police station, though he still occasionally screamed expletives. But when officers tried to escort him to jail, he allegedly responded “what the [expletive] are you talking about?” WHDH-TV Joseph Parker started beating officers after a traffic stop in a construction zone, and kept going even after being brought to jail, police said. He then gestured to the exit and informed the cops “I’m walking out that door.” He then became violent again crouching in a boxer’s stance in a corner and challenging the officers to a fight. The suspect then charged a cop and punched him in the face. As authorities tried to subdue him another officer sustained a leg injury. Three others sustained cuts and abrasions, police said. When being booked in the police station he also broke a metal detector, police said. Parker was charged with assault and battery, malicious destruction of property, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, and is being held on $25,000. He pleaded not guilty in a court appearance hours after his arrest. His lawyer Daniel Fitzgerald told WCVB Parker was on a medication during the mass melee and may have had a bad reaction. He recently served a prison sentence for dealing drugs but had no violent offenses on his record, the attorney told the station. Parker will next appear in court on Sept. 15. A message left at his home was not returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Looks like I jumped on just in time for the bro-down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh4dy15 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 ABA proctor: You didn't list your school. Raiderholic: I didn't go to law school. Proctor: Then...what? Why are you here? Raiderholic: I dunno, figured I've been to enough Raider games and I fully understand what people can, and can't do. And the proctor better not dare point or put a finger anywhere near him as that is assault if it's perceived as a threat and he can then punch him in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 No I mean have you considered the possibility that you're actually saying a bunch of dumb sh*t and that maybe the responses you are drawing are justified. not at all. if a guy owed me money, and he obviously has it, and tried to chump me for it, got in my face,put his finger in my face, and then asked me what I was going to do about it, I would hit him,too. if that is saying a bunch of dumb sh*t,as you put it, I don't know what to tell ya besides what I already told a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Wow. Does he have a weapon? Wtf are you even talking about at this point? I'll tell you what I wouldn't do...punch him in the face and break his jaw. And that's a ****in stranger. This is pointless. There's zero comparison here and waving your finger in someone's face isn't assault no matter how you cut it. Figures...Raider fan. When you are the aggressor , and charge someone with your finger in their face. That person has the right to defend themself , as they don't know your intentions. ( or they perceive your actions as a threat. So your saying that person should wait till that aggressor( finger in the face) throws the first punch- than he be the guy that was out for 10 weeks.( broken jaw) How many fight were you involved in your lifetime- not many by your responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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