Savage69 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Exactly. We've seen that proven out many times No game planing trying new combinations to see how they work plus getting to see as many new players as possible before the cuts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 No game planing trying new combinations to see how they work plus getting to see as many new players as possible before the cuts.. All kinds of different combinations of players in situations they don't usually play...a starting QB who's not healthy yet, it goes on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 So your explanation for 85 yards to 226 etc is you're smarter? If you feel humiliated over preseason football, I feel sorry for you. You must lead a really miserable life. I don't recall saying I was humiliated, I'm not on the Jets first team. I'd say I'm little disappointed but I've gotten used to that. You keep regurgitating the same crap you found on twitter. I'll go off what I actually watched on TV and we'll agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 How can one say that the team is not good at football, but without drawing the ire of the sunshine police? It's not that I don't want them to be good, because I do. I would very much like them to be good at the game of football. They just are not. Also, Fitzy's arm is just brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 How can one say that the team is not good at football, but without drawing the ire of the sunshine police? It's not that I don't want them to be good, because I do. I would very much like them to be good at the game of football. They just are not. Also, Fitzy's arm is just brutal. Maybe if the sky is falling group didn't go so far overboard complaining about the way they played, got closer to how they actually played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulyjet Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 It speaks to context,... Thank you for your well writen & respectful responce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Maybe if the sky is falling group didn't go so far overboard complaining about the way they played, got closer to how they actually played? The sky has done falleth years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 The sky has done falleth years ago. True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 i can't imagine coples having responsibility for the entire half of the field. the guy wasn't even fast. david harris could have tracked him down. that said, i just don't see coples flashing enough in general. look at maudlin and leonard williams already, they flash. maudlin leveled the qb last week but they called a dubious penalty. coples disappears too much, his main value is his long arms to deflect passes and cause fumbles but it doesn't happen enough. bottom line the defense needs wilk and hopefully trich at some point. I agree. Coples right now seems like Bryan Thomas. Could be a decent player for a long time. But not sure he will ever make you say wow I am glad that is how they used the 1st round pick that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethead Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I agree. Coples right now seems like Bryan Thomas. Could be a decent player for a long time. But not sure he will ever make you say wow I am glad that is how they used the 1st round pick that year. Put him on the Giants or another 4-3 def. team and he might be a different player. He was Rex the mad scientist's experiment as a 3-4 olb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 Put him on the Giants or another 4-3 def. team and he might be a different player. He was Rex the mad scientist's experiment as a 3-4 olb. I do fear that as well which was the same thing with Thomas. Seemed out of position for a hundred years until he got decent at covering crappy tight ends. I think Coples is a defensive end 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I do fear that as well which was the same thing with Thomas. Seemed out of position for a hundred years until he got decent at covering crappy tight ends. I think Coples is a defensive end 100%. He can play DE or DT ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Here's what I saw after watching the game again: Bad - Too many penalties especially the ones that cancelled out quite a few big runs on offense. I wanted Kellen Davis as a blocking TE but he's been awful - Blown coverage on the FB screen pass - Missed tackle on the big Hester punt return - Jeff Cumberland is such a big disappointment. He missed too many blocking assignments that destroyed well designed pass plays - Fitzpatrick's arm strength outside the numbers is going to be a challenge for Gailey to overcome Good - OLines were good in pass and run blocking. The QB's had ample time to scan the field when they threw - Bryce Petty was 2000% better he actually looked like a QB. Props to him and the staff, it gives me hope that a year of development may actually create us a QB - Chris Ivory actually looked comfortable catching the ball out of the backfield - Tackling was much improved - Run defense was much improved - Getting turnovers, hopefully it's an indication that our drought is ending - Joe Mays and Jamari Lattimore as backup ILB's. Mays always seems to be making correct adjustments to the DLine just before the snap. And that Lattimore INT may have been the best catch and run by a Jet in years - TJ Barnes as a backup NT is finally playing up to his size (6-6 350). He constantly was pushing the center into the backfield during his reps - Good to see Leonard Williams have his coming out party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 There was a lot of buzz about New York Jets quarterback Bryce Petty after last night’s performance, and despite the good-looking stats (12-for-19, 168 yards, 109.1 passer rating), Petty still had more negatives than positives in his performance. He finished with a -3.4 grade. The box score did not capture his two passes that should have been intercepted — one of which was a terrible decision to throw to a waiting cornerback at the end of the half — and it also didn’t capture his decision run out of bounds to take a sack rather than throwing the ball away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 There was a lot of buzz about New York Jets quarterback Bryce Petty after last night’s performance, and despite the good-looking stats (12-for-19, 168 yards, 109.1 passer rating), Petty still had more negatives than positives in his performance. He finished with a -3.4 grade. The box score did not capture his two passes that should have been intercepted — one of which was a terrible decision to throw to a waiting cornerback at the end of the half — and it also didn’t capture his decision run out of bounds to take a sack rather than throwing the ball away. Good luck explaining what the game actually looked like in the 140 characters or less people need to pay attention. I was happy with Petty cause I was looking to see something for down the road. If that's a competent backup or a starter It's a good pickup, the team I'm actually going to be watching this year on a weekly basis I was pretty disappointed with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Tom Brady first 3 drives have stalled BAD. 1/3 for 7 yards on the first 3 drives. Drew Brees abusing the Pats starting D right now!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Tom Brady first 3 drives have stalled BAD. 1/3 for 7 yards on the first 3 drives. Drew Brees abusing the Pats starting D right now!!!! Giants and Pats have looked even worse than the Jets so far. So, there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 There was a lot of buzz about New York Jets quarterback Bryce Petty after last night’s performance, and despite the good-looking stats (12-for-19, 168 yards, 109.1 passer rating), Petty still had more negatives than positives in his performance. He finished with a -3.4 grade. The box score did not capture his two passes that should have been intercepted — one of which was a terrible decision to throw to a waiting cornerback at the end of the half — and it also didn’t capture his decision run out of bounds to take a sack rather than throwing the ball away. PFF cultism is getting stupid. Petty is going to make mistakes. At this point I would rather they be from him trying to make a play rather than mental errors. Needs to find what he can and cannot do, and learn from film study how to recognize coverages, etc,,,and he ONLY gets that from playing. PFF stats so not say anything about the arm strength he showed,. The command of the huddle, How he extended plays and went through multiple reads. How quickly he recognized a read and threw the ball. There was WAY more positives than negatives from Petty last night whether some nerd thinks a ball should have been intercepted or not, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Giants and Pats have looked even worse than the Jets so far. So, there's that. This is the first I've watched of either one but both of them have massive OLine issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 PFF cultism is getting stupid. Petty is going to make mistakes. At this point I would rather they be from him trying to make a play rather than mental errors. Needs to find what he can and cannot do, and learn from film study how to recognize coverages, etc,,,and he ONLY gets that from playing. PFF stats so not say anything about the arm strength he showed,. The command of the huddle, How he extended plays and went through multiple reads. How quickly he recognized a read and threw the ball. There was WAY more positives than negatives from Petty last night whether some nerd thinks a ball should have been intercepted or not, He did throw a couple bad balls, but looked a lot better than the first week. I'm not looking for much from Petty right now coming from that Baylor system but I liked what I did see, but with some good coaching and an actual year to learn for a Jets rookie, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Giants and Pats have looked even worse than the Jets so far. So, there's that. Does Brady seem to be struggling using a Fulltball? I've been watching the Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 - Fitzpatrick's arm strength outside the numbers is going to be a challenge for Gailey to overcome Fitz had a lower leg injury, right? I'm betting his arm will strengthen as he continues to get healthy and more reps... Not much throwing going on if you have a broken leg to heal from. Flynn has a weak arm too, so whatever they are cooking up should suit both veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Does Brady seem to be struggling using a Fulltball? I've been watching the Giants He kept doing that thing where he'd stare out at the spot where his incompletion occurred as though looking for someone to blame for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Fitz had a lower leg injury, right? I'm betting his arm will strengthen as he continues to get healthy and more reps... Not much throwing going on if you have a broken leg to heal from. Flynn has a weak arm too, so whatever they are cooking up should suit both veterans. I agree 100%. There aren't many guys like Jay Cutler blessed with the arm strength to throw it through a brick wall without needing his lower body. I just have no idea what kind of timetable we're looking at. I prefer Fitz's resume over Geno if Bowles gets this D together but his arm strength has been troubling a few weeks out from the start of real football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 He kept doing that thing where he'd stare out at the spot where his incompletion occurred as though looking for someone to blame for it. I look forward to watching it tomorrow. It's adorable watching somebody deflect blame for everything, ever. Unless it's your head coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Does Brady seem to be struggling using a Fulltball? I've been watching the Giants I noticed before the game started that his hand was all chalked up, like he dipped his hand in a bucket of blue chalk lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I look forward to watching it tomorrow. It's adorable watching somebody deflect blame for everything, ever. Unless it's your head coach Wait until you see Amendola throwing his arms up for a flag after every incompletion just because the Saints secondary was making great plays. p.s. He didn't get any of those flags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Fitz had a lower leg injury, right? I'm betting his arm will strengthen as he continues to get healthy and more reps... Not much throwing going on if you have a broken leg to heal from. Flynn has a weak arm too, so whatever they are cooking up should suit both veterans. No, no. That's Fitzpatrick's arm. That's what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Final 2 mins of the 1st half of the Pats games will infuriate you when you guys watch it. Typical bullsh*t Pats penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 No, no. That's Fitzpatrick's arm. That's what it is. I know it's weak, but an injury that keeps him from throwing is going to maker it weaker... in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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