kevinc855 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Man hes so Peyon that's for sure but he doesn't throw picks. I will take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Fitz will be solid. He'll have a few huge games and maybe one or two shockers but he'll generally be consistently decent assuming he plays the full season. He's not good or bad enough to really dictate how the season will go, not many QB's you can say that about. He's pretty much the QB we needed 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Where was the hold? Ref's are f'ing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Sick INT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 No tds either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Fitzy should get on whatever Brady took and maybe his arm will start looking like that of a starting QB. You'd think with such an awesome beard he'd have an absolute cannon. It perplexes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 His longest pass is 7 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 His longest pass is 7 yards. His longest pass is 7 yards. Didn't watch Tom Brady check down to a title did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Didn't watch Tom Brady check down to a title did you? Are you really comparing Fitzpatrick to Brady? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Are you really comparing Fitzpatrick to Brady? I did not. What I'm saying is that throwing short passes and being accurate with them is great. Put this in the other thread so I will put it here too. In American football, a checkdown pass is when the quarterback attempts to complete a short, accurate pass to a running back or tight end as a last option when the wide receivers are covered. The term means that the quarterback has "checked down" his list of receivers. Because the quarterback does not look for the checkdown pass until after he has scanned for open wide receivers down the field for about 3–4 seconds, the defensive line has had time to enter the backfield and so a checkdown pass is often thrown in the face of pressure from the defensive line. Alternatively, if the defensive team has sent a blitz, with linebackers and/or defensive backs also looking to sack the quarterback, the checkdown may also turn out to be the quarterback's second or even first look. For this reason, the ability to complete checkdown passes, while not as dramatic as longer completions, is often seen as a key sign of an effective and efficient quarterback. These plays often result in significant yardage gain, because most of the defensive players are either in the backfield in pursuit of the quarterback, or deeper in the secondary covering receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't get the new doom and gloom stuff with Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't get the new doom and gloom stuff with Fitz. First everyone wanted Fitz, now we're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I don't get the new doom and gloom stuff with Fitz. You've been a Jet fan long enough to know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 You've been a Jet fan long enough to know why. That the fanbase sucks at times and gets real whiney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 That the fanbase sucks at times and gets real whiney? Only sometimes Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgoman Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I did not. What I'm saying is that throwing short passes and being accurate with them is great. Put this in the other thread so I will put it here too. In American football, a checkdown pass is when the quarterback attempts to complete a short, accurate pass to a running back or tight end as a last option when the wide receivers are covered. The term means that the quarterback has "checked down" his list of receivers. Because the quarterback does not look for the checkdown pass until after he has scanned for open wide receivers down the field for about 3–4 seconds, the defensive line has had time to enter the backfield and so a checkdown pass is often thrown in the face of pressure from the defensive line. Alternatively, if the defensive team has sent a blitz, with linebackers and/or defensive backs also looking to sack the quarterback, the checkdown may also turn out to be the quarterback's second or even first look. For this reason, the ability to complete checkdown passes, while not as dramatic as longer completions, is often seen as a key sign of an effective and efficient quarterback. These plays often result in significant yardage gain, because most of the defensive players are either in the backfield in pursuit of the quarterback, or deeper in the secondary covering receivers. Checkdown artists are not "effective and efficient quarterbacks" and I don't care what any wikipedia article says. The checkdown is the last resort and shouldn't be the fulcrum of any great QB. QBs who overuse checkdowns or else rate checkdowns as their predominate pass are usually inefficient and ineffective (i.e. poor YPA). QBs who are able to win with checkdowns are usually bad QBs with really good teams (i.e. Alex Smith and high YAC). In any case, the QB is bad and should be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Checkdown artists are not "effective and efficient quarterbacks" and I don't care what any wikipedia article says. The checkdown is the last resort and shouldn't be the fulcrum of any great QB. QBs who overuse checkdowns or else rate checkdowns as their predominate pass are usually inefficient and ineffective (i.e. poor YPA). QBs who are able to win with checkdowns are usually bad QBs with really good teams (i.e. Alex Smith and high YAC). In any case, the QB is bad and should be replaced. So outside of deciding a QB is a checkdown QB only you're saying instead of checking down when the primaries are covered a QB should either force it in somewhere or hopefully throw the ball away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Only sometimes Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk More than sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Didn't watch Tom Brady check down to a title did you? I watched him deflate to a title though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Checkdown artists are not "effective and efficient quarterbacks" and I don't care what any wikipedia article says. The checkdown is the last resort and shouldn't be the fulcrum of any great QB. QBs who overuse checkdowns or else rate checkdowns as their predominate pass are usually inefficient and ineffective (i.e. poor YPA). QBs who are able to win with checkdowns are usually bad QBs with really good teams (i.e. Alex Smith and high YAC). In any case, the QB is bad and should be replaced. Good thinking ... Who should we bring in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Checkdown artists are not "effective and efficient quarterbacks" and I don't care what any wikipedia article says. The checkdown is the last resort and shouldn't be the fulcrum of any great QB. QBs who overuse checkdowns or else rate checkdowns as their predominate pass are usually inefficient and ineffective (i.e. poor YPA). QBs who are able to win with checkdowns are usually bad QBs with really good teams (i.e. Alex Smith and high YAC). In any case, the QB is bad and should be replaced. a checkdown pass is when the quarterback attempts to complete a short, accurate pass to a running back or tight end as a last option when the wide receivers are covered. The term means that the quarterback has "checked down" his list of receivers. Guess this part of the equation didn't work for you either. That its a short pass when others are covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Remember how you all wanted Chip Kelly? He runs THE SAME OFFENSE. Short passes and YAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Are you really comparing Fitzpatrick to Brady? Brady cheats and Fitz doesn't. They are equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I watched him deflate to a title though. The Seahawks defense averaged approximately 16 points per game and Brady hung 14 points on them in the 2nd half of the Super Bowl. All with non cheating footballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 The Seahawks defense averaged approximately 16 points per game and Brady hung 14 points on them in the 2nd half of the Super Bowl. All with non cheating footballs. And after those 14 points I watched Pete Carroll pass the Patriots their 4th SB title with one play. But I guess deflating your way to a title game is negated by scoring 14 points in the 2nd half of the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 The Seahawks defense averaged approximately 16 points per game and Brady hung 14 points on them in the 2nd half of the Super Bowl. All with non cheating footballs. And after those 14 points I watched Pete Carroll pass the Patriots their 4th SB title with one play. But I guess deflating your way to a title game is negated by scoring 14 points in the 2nd half of the SB. I watched a miraculous circus catch by Seattle to get them in redzone that gets made 1 out of 1000 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I don't get the new doom and gloom stuff with Fitz. Geno lovers desperately want to be right and thus put their own egos ahead of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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