k-met57 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 another solid game for the second year player and another example of people killing the kid too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 A happy surprise so far this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOJOTOWNSELL Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Rex was a career killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Another good game by Pryor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Perhaps in hind-site telling a guy 3 seconds after he is drafted that he is your hammer and you expect him to smash everything is not wise when dealing with rookies new to the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 another solid game for the second year player and another example of people killing the kid too early. He was an absolute train wreck. He has the worst instincts and is always out of position. Yes a tipped ball gingerly fell into his hands. If that play equals a solid game then OK, I guess so. But he over pursues, has zero gap integrity and no discipline. And that's just in run defense. In pass defense he's even worse. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvill 51 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He was an absolute train wreck. He has the worst instincts and is always out of position. Yes a tipped ball gingerly fell into his hands. If that play equals a solid game then OK, I guess so. But he over pursues, has zero gap integrity and no discipline. And that's just in run defense. In pass defense he's even worse. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Saw literally none of this last night. I did see him make a tackle on the 1 yard line to prevent a TD in the 3rd quarter, which in turn lead to the Gore fumble instead of the Colts putting up 6. And he nearly stripped the ball the play right after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He was an absolute train wreck. He has the worst instincts and is always out of position. Yes a tipped ball gingerly fell into his hands. If that play equals a solid game then OK, I guess so. But he over pursues, has zero gap integrity and no discipline. And that's just in run defense. In pass defense he's even worse. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk WTF are you talking about. he made an impact play in week 1 too forcing a fumble with the hit on mccown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 The whole defense has been hammering people. They knock people out of the game, but more importantly make the 'pay' for the completion and are forcing turnovers. To be fair, Proyor sucked last year, and yes he is still making some bad plays/tackles/angles. But last week was his best game to date. And last night was his best game to date. He has been playing better and hitting hard. He didn't choose where he was picked, and that is now history. Let's see if he can continually improve and make a significant impact to the team. maybe he was 'lucky' to be in the right place at the right time, but let's be fair, Revis got 'lucky' by being there for the 2 fumbles (he was great at the goal line btw) and his int was helped by Mo hitting Luck's hand. But, Revis was great. My old boss said that the better you are the luckier you get. Pryor was in the right place for that int, but more importantly, he was in the right place - protecting the deep ball and giving help to the CB. He also had a great run back. Last year, he would have been out of position and likely dropped the ball even if it came to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He didn't do anything special in week 1. He was excellent versus Indy, easily his best game as a pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He has play makers around him which allows him to play to his strengths. Hopefully his skills will improve as the season progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He didn't do anything special in week 1. He was excellent versus Indy, easily his best game as a pro. Forced fumble and like 10 or 9 tackles in week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleSlugger25 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He didn't do anything special in week 1. He was excellent versus Indy, easily his best game as a pro. LOL, do you watch the games? Either way, LOUISVILLE SLUGGER!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He was an absolute train wreck. He has the worst instincts and is always out of position. Yes a tipped ball gingerly fell into his hands. If that play equals a solid game then OK, I guess so. But he over pursues, has zero gap integrity and no discipline. And that's just in run defense. In pass defense he's even worse. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A+ for use of buzzwords. F- for execution, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleSlugger25 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He was an absolute train wreck. He has the worst instincts and is always out of position. Yes a tipped ball gingerly fell into his hands. If that play equals a solid game then OK, I guess so. But he over pursues, has zero gap integrity and no discipline. And that's just in run defense. In pass defense he's even worse. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So you're saying that Bowles doesn't know how to evaluate talent on defense and is intentionally trying to lose games by putting Pryor out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Did Coby Fleener even exist last night? Why not? Because of Pryor and Gilchrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Pryor has made some solid strides so far this year. Just another reminder to maybe not write off players during their rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He was an absolute train wreck. He has the worst instincts and is always out of position. Yes a tipped ball gingerly fell into his hands. If that play equals a solid game then OK, I guess so. But he over pursues, has zero gap integrity and no discipline. And that's just in run defense. In pass defense he's even worse. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Saw literally none of this last night. I did see him make a tackle on the 1 yard line to prevent a TD in the 3rd quarter, which in turn lead to the Gore fumble instead of the Colts putting up 6. And he nearly stripped the ball the play right after that. OK...which was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Pryor has made some solid strides so far this year. Just another reminder to maybe not write off players during their rookie season. All part of the Idzik plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Coby Fleener is a borderline starter that has gotten one target this season. I think people should stop acting like shutting him out is the same a stopping Gronk or Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Forced fumble and like 10 or 9 tackles in week 1. he is starting in a pretty good secondary. Enough said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Coby Fleener is a borderline starter that has gotten one target this season. I think people should stop acting like shutting him out is the same a stopping Gronk or Graham. Sweet hyperbole bruh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Rex was a career killer Yup he loved to try to turn people into something they are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Sweet hyperbole bruh. Did Coby Fleener even exist last night? Why not? Because of Pryor and Gilchrist Why didn't he exist in week 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Why didn't he exist in week 1? I think Rex had King Kong cover him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I think Rex had King Kong cover him. Triple cover him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Why didn't he exist in week 1? I guess because he's not Gronk or Graham, and shutting down anything less than Gronk or Graham is clearly not noteworthy. Your post reminds me of the standard "let's hold off on the Hall of Fame votes" after someone simply says "so and so looked great last night". It's a joke. We get it. Don't get too excited. After all, this is the Jets, and if we're not being negative it just don't feel right. BTW, great reasoning as well. When determining Fleener's level, his 1 catch for 5 yards in week 1 is clearly a much more valuable sample size than his last two full seasons of play - in which Fleener's been about a league average TE. After last season, Pryor shutting down even a league average TE is more than noteworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 So you're saying that Bowles doesn't know how to evaluate talent on defense and is intentionally trying to lose games by putting Pryor out there? No, I saying we spent a 1st round pick on a guy who is obviously a bust. We are pretty much obligated to let him bury himself. It's very rare to bench a top 20 pick 18 games into their career. Nonetheless, don't watch just the 2 or 3 highlights on ESPN. Watch him play in and play out. Over pursues, misses tackles, no gap integrity, and piss poor in coverage. Sorry for all the "buzz words" LOL Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuttaSightPF Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 OK...which was it? I didn't post the second one. It was a reply to me. Is the internet too hard for you to manage Bill Gates? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Rex was a career killer let's be fair to Rex. Jets did not have the personnel to have Pryor play in the box last season....or do a lot of things that Bowles has the luxury of doing this year. I'd rather have Bowles than Rex, but just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 LOL, do you watch the games? Either way, LOUISVILLE SLUGGER!!! He Probably watches the Redzone channel and didn't see Pryor in week one because there was no interception returned for a touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Coby Fleener is a borderline starter that has gotten one target this season. I think people should stop acting like shutting him out is the same a stopping Gronk or Graham. I don't know if there is any combination of players out there who could effectively shut Gronk out without leaving everyone else on the field wide open. Graham I think is a different story and I think if our defense played the way it did last night he would have a pretty bad game. That being said, I don't believe anyone is trying to say Pryor is the greatest SS in the NFL by any means. I think people are just trying to give him a bit of credit because he has been improving and playing better than they had expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Forced fumble and like 10 or 9 tackles in week 1. True. But all of those tackles, as well as the "forced fumble", were simply dives at people's legs. Villian even made and posted .gifs. Pryor had a textbook wrap and lift tackle last night, which is what they teach at the earliest levels of football. He wasn't bad week 1. He just did his job like any JAG safety could do. Week 2 he was excellent. Anyways, that's what I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 He Probably watches the Redzone channel and didn't see Pryor in week one because there was no interception returned for a touchdown. I think you should go back and watch the game. Then watch other games so you can judge safety play. I watched the game twice, and Villain posted .gifs. I'll trust that over your homerism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 he is starting in a pretty good secondary. Enough said Didn't see anyone else in that secondary force a TD-saving fumble. Not saying he did incredible, but to what Saul said, he was certainly not quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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