Jetsbb Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr/_/type/player-week/week/4 Crazy did not expect that. Now he is 11th in the NFL through 4 weeks in QBR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I'll take a top 15 QB after what we've had at the position for the previous 6 years. Gladly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I'll take a top 15 QB after what we've had at the position for the previous 6 years. Gladly. Sad but true....what we've been put through as a fan base over the course of several decades, especially the most recent one, anything better than bottom-5 QB play is a huge relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 pretty sure it would have been higher if they would have called the pass interference that resulted in an INT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I expect the NFL to send the jets a letter of apology over that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 He's not gonna be able to run around like he did every game. If he continues on that trend Geno will be in there & Fitzy will be on injured reserve. Love the moxie and the fact that Gaileys spread offense opens lanes but Fitz ain't no runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Hes been consistantly getting our playmakers the ball. Marshall and decker are having great season with fitz. hes also has avoided back breaking turnovers and is not coating us games. until petty is ready, this guy has been great for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 He was about the same rank last year before getting hurt. He's playing exactly how I expected. Some good, some bad, not killing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 He's not gonna be able to run around like he did every game. If he continues on that trend Geno will be in there & Fitzy will be on injured reserve. Love the moxie and the fact that Gaileys spread offense opens lanes but Fitz ain't no runner. Actually he has had the ability to run when needed his entire career. He's averaged 220 yards rushing per season the last 7 years, with a high of 304 in 2008 in Cincy and 184 in 12 games last season. By comparison, Geno rushed for 366 yards his rookie year then 238 yards last year in 14 games. Mark Sanchez never rushed for more than 106 yards in a season. I'd be fine with him running as long as he slides more. But to say he isn't a runner is simply untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackdance Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Hold on, this changes everything because this means that Geno is a top 5 QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Hes been consistantly getting our playmakers the ball. Marshall and decker are having great season with fitz. hes also has avoided back breaking turnovers and is not coating us games. until petty is ready, this guy has been great for us. Yep, most of his INTs have been downfield as opposed to getting pick sixed by linebackers on short dump offs. Both Sanchez and Geno were excellent at the Pick-6 play. Sad, but I'm okay with mediocre QB play until a better opportunity presents itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyjet Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Remember-Trent dilfer won a Super Bowl. So anything is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 But, but, Geno ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Remember-Trent dilfer won a Super Bowl. So anything is possible And so did Joe Flacco. When you watch him play there's no way you could ever have thought he'd have an 11 TD, 0 INT postseason. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 this is exactly why we cannot trust these stats. this is beyond comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Remember-Trent dilfer won a Super Bowl. So anything is possible Trent was far better than Fitz, Trent had played in postseason before. he was perfect for that great D in Bal, he limited TOs(something Fitz does not do) and made big plays. he was vital to that run. Fitz is NOT Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Eli Manning or any other mediocre QB that has won a SB w/ great defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 this is exactly why we cannot trust these stats. this is beyond comical. Fitz puts up good stats: "Throw all numbers out, can't be trusted." Fitz helps the Jets to a 3-1 start: "A good QB like Geno Smith would have us 4-0". This is beyond comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Yep, most of his INTs have been downfield as opposed to getting pick sixed by linebackers on short dump offs. Both Sanchez and Geno were excellent at the Pick-6 play. Sad, but I'm okay with mediocre QB play until a better opportunity presents itself. Not only that, but a lot of them were balls where the WR could have made a play on them, or tipped the ball. In other words, Fitz isn't just throwing the ball directly to a defender. He's throwing to our WRs and if it's an INT, more often than not, the defender had to make a good play on it. No gifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 He was about the same rank last year before getting hurt. He's playing exactly how I expected. Some good, some bad, not killing us. he's been hurting us most of the year, b/c we have won doesn't change that. we were +4 midway through the 4th at Indy and led just 10-7. he missed a million plays vs. philly that would have changed that game, last week we dominated Miami yet w/ plenty of time to play Miami had a 1st and G from our 2. we have won and should be thankful for that but let's be honest- the QB has struggled and we haven't played any good teams yet. he has to play A LOT better if we are going to be a playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Fitz puts up good stats: "Throw all numbers out, can't be trusted." Fitz helps the Jets to a 3-1 start: "A good QB like Geno Smith would have us 4-0". This is beyond comical. watch the games, if you think we can beat good teams w/ the way Fitz has played then have fun w/ that. I didn't say we would be 4-0 w/ Geno, someone said we'd be 1-3. I said there's a better chance are 4-0 than 1-3. QB play has been way down on the list of reasons why we are 3-1. the QB was a major reason for our only loss and kept Indy and Miami in games that should been major blowouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Not only that, but a lot of them were balls where the WR could have made a play on them, or tipped the ball. In other words, Fitz isn't just throwing the ball directly to a defender. He's throwing to our WRs and if it's an INT, more often than not, the defender had to make a good play on it. No gifts. No gifts? he's been throwing it up for grabs, he's lucky he doesn't have 4-5 more INts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 he's been hurting us most of the year, b/c we have won doesn't change that. we were +4 midway through the 4th at Indy and led just 10-7. he missed a million plays vs. philly that would have changed that game, last week we dominated Miami yet w/ plenty of time to play Miami had a 1st and G from our 2. we have won and should be thankful for that but let's be honest- the QB has struggled and we haven't played any good teams yet. he has to play A LOT better if we are going to be a playoff team. This is the funny part... Nobody is saying he doesn't need to play better. Some people just believe that as the team gels, they will all get better. While Geno is a lost cause, so reverting to him solves nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section 333 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I'll take a top 15 QB after what we've had at the position for the previous 6 years. Gladly. u take that? Then clearly u didn't watch the Miami game. His performance tells a different story than his numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 No gifts? he's been throwing it up for grabs, he's lucky he doesn't have 4-5 more INts. This is not really fair. He has two ints on the stat sheet that should definitely not be int's. The one that went through Marshalls hands was terrible, and one was as bad a PI as you can have that was not called. At least be objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 This is the funny part... Nobody is saying he doesn't need to play better. Some people just believe that as the team gels, they will all get better. While Geno is a lost cause, so reverting to him solves nothing. I am not saying change to geno but why is geno a lost cause? has Geno ever played w/ talent like this and an OC like Gailey? Fitz has limitations w/ his arm that will only get bigger as the weather gets colder and windier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 u take that? Then clearly u didn't watch the Miami game. His performance tells a different story than his numbers. As soon as an Aaron Rodgers springs free let us know. For now this is the best we've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 This is not really fair. He has two ints on the stat sheet that should definitely not be int's. The one that went through Marshalls hands was terrible, and one was as bad a PI as you can have that was not called. At least be objective. the Marshall one should have been caught but it wasn't a great throw either. the non PI was another ball thrown up for grabs, PI should have been called but when you do that both players have equal opportunity to catch it. he has also been saved numerous times on terrible throws w/ great catches and knocking away INTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 As soon as an Aaron Rodgers springs free let us know. For now this is the best we've got. yep, there's nothing in btw Aaron Rodgers and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 u take that? Then clearly u didn't watch the Miami game. His performance tells a different story than his numbers. Fitz had about an 8 minute stretch in the 2nd quarter where he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with his passes. It coincided with a pretty big hit on one of his scrambles / head first dives so it's possible he was banged up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section 333 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Not only that, but a lot of them were balls where the WR could have made a play on them, or tipped the ball. In other words, Fitz isn't just throwing the ball directly to a defender. He's throwing to our WRs and if it's an INT, more often than not, the defender had to make a good play on it. No gifts. it's cute that u like to pump ur chest around here , policing threads and whatnot. But behind that JN elder statesman costume u wear I thought that on rare occasions that u actually talked football that u had some knowledge. But this tells me that u quite possibly don't even watch the games. Before in my mind u were a jerk with substance. Now u don't even have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section 333 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 As soon as an Aaron Rodgers springs free let us know. For now this is the best we've got. obviously. All I'm saying is F the ratings. He isn't good. Yes all we got. But not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Not only that, but a lot of them were balls where the WR could have made a play on them, or tipped the ball. In other words, Fitz isn't just throwing the ball directly to a defender. He's throwing to our WRs and if it's an INT, more often than not, the defender had to make a good play on it. No gifts. True, we def know what that looks like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 obviously. All I'm saying is F the ratings. He isn't good. Yes all we got. But not good. lol never said good. Average at best. He is what he is, he isn't changing, but he's the best we've got. How many threads do people feel the need to do battle over a QB situation that isn't changing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Fitz had about an 8 minute stretch in the 2nd quarter where he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with his passes. It coincided with a pretty big hit on one of his scrambles / head first dives so it's possible he was banged up. that's possible but even on the first big play to Marshall he underthrew him and needed Marshall to make a great catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 obviously. All I'm saying is F the ratings. He isn't good. Yes all we got. But not good. cmon man, he isnt great but he is competant and believe it or not, the other 10 guys in the huddle tend to feed off a QB that knows what the **** he is doing... Give the guy a bit of credit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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