kelly Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Muhammad Wilkerson stood in a corner of a crowded Wembley Stadium locker room, putting his jacket on when a few reporters approached Sunday. Wilkerson smiled and pointed out the reporters had been busy talking to other guys before him. That’s the way Wilkerson must feel these days — overlooked. Overlooked by the organization that did not sign him to a long-term deal this offseason, and largely overlooked by the media and fans despite a red-hot start to the season.While new acquisitions Brandon Marshall, Darrelle Revis, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Buster Skrine are drawing much of the attention, along with bruising back Chris Ivory, Wilkerson is doing what he always does, going about his business and making plays.Wilkerson has been an absolute beast for the Jets so far. He leads the team with 3.5 sacks, which is tied for fifth in the NFL. He has a forced fumble and 12 quarterback hurries.But statistics never tell the full story with Wilkerson, part of the problem for him as he and his agent argue for a new deal with the Jets. You have to actually watch Wilkerson to appreciate him. The way the Jets’ front office has refused to give him a new deal makes you wonder if they have. The Jets ask Wilkerson to play multiple spots on the defensive line. He can be anywhere from the tackle’s outside shoulder to right over the center, and he never seems to flinch.For his performance against the Dolphins, Wilkerson was given his second game ball of the young season and named defensive player of the game by the team. Wilkerson was in the Miami backfield all day, harassing quarterback Ryan Tannehill and shutting down the Dolphins’ run game.This comes two weeks after he tore up the Colts. In that Monday night game, he caused two interceptions with his pressure, almost blocked a punt and drew two holding calls because the Colts could not stop him any other way. The website Pro Football Focus has him graded as the No. 2 defensive end in a 3-4 system in the NFL behind all-everything J.J. Watt. You might think Wilkerson is on a mission because of his contract, but that’s not Wilkerson’s style. This is simply how good he is, which makes it puzzling why the Jets failed to get something done with him before the season started. Wilkerson cut off negotiations when the season started.Those familiar with the negotiations said the sides never even came close to a deal. Despite proclamations from general manager Mike Maccagnan that the team’s “intention” was to sign Wilkerson long-term, the Jets never made an offer Wilkerson had to seriously consider. Wilkerson is thriving in coach Todd Bowles’ one-gap system and should lead to bigger pass-rushing numbers for him. Bowles is not Rex Ryan. He does not lavish praise on players just for the heck of it. But he speaks about Wilkerson with admiration.“I think Mo is good in any scheme,” Bowles said a few weeks ago. “He’s just one of those players. He can play two-gap, 3-4, 4-3. His ceiling is as high as he wants it to be. He’s a heck of a player.” Now, Wilkerson’s price just continues to climb with each week he plays like this. Depending on whom you ask around the NFL, the Jets may be able to pay both Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson long-term or they may have to choose. No one can deny Richardson is a dynamic player, but if the Jets have to choose it should be Wilkerson. He is more versatile and less of a headache. Richardson is one bad night away from a 10-game suspension. The Jets won’t have to pay Richardson until 2017, at the earliest, but that is on the horizon when considering whether to pay Wilkerson.Sheldon Richardson The Jets can put the franchise tag on him this winter, which will cost them about $16 million. People have floated the idea of a tag-and-trade, but those are very difficult. The Jets also should learn from trading Darrelle Revis two years ago that trading one of your best players is not smart.With Revis, the Jets missed a chance to have a homegrown star in their uniform from the start of his career to the finish. How many of those have they had in their history? Wayne Chrebet, Al Toon, Mark Gastineau, Wesley Walker, that’s about it. Even Joe Namath finished his career in a different uniform. The Jets can’t make the same mistake with Wilkerson. He has been overlooked for too long. Playoff talk not crazy It is safe for Jets fans to start dreaming about the playoffs. Now, you may think that is crazy because they are just 3-1 and Ryan Fitzpatrick is their quarterback. But take a look at their remaining schedule. Of the 10 teams left, only one opponent currently is above .500 and looks like it is actually good — the Patriots (who else?).But line up the Redskins, Raiders, Jaguars, Bills, Texans, Dolphins, Giants, Titans and Cowboys and tell me which one you are certain about.At best, they are a question mark — like the Cowboys waiting for the return of injured stars Tony Romo and Dez Bryant. At worst, they are a dysfunctional mess — like the Dolphins, who fired coach Joe Philbin on Monday after the Jets’ 27-14 goodbye present. The others are mostly mediocre. They will have some good weeks and some bad weeks. You might argue the Jets fall into the same category. But the Jets’ defense looks elite, and the running game with Chris Ivory is going to carry them to some wins. With traditional AFC North powers the Ravens and Steelers looking like they might have down years, the door is open for a wild-card spot from the AFC East.There is a long way to go until January, but Jets fans who are dreaming of playoff football for the first time in five years are not crazy. > http://nypost.com/2015/10/07/jets-must-find-way-to-sign-muhammad-wilkerson-long-term/?ref=yfp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 trade sheldon sign mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Inside the Jets: Muhammad Wilkerson (10/26) > http://www.newyorkjets.com/videos/audio/Inside-the-Jets-Muhammad-Wilkerson-1026/bd51d406-f659-4714-8422-d5e8a27ceb98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bachelors3 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mo is a flippin' beast. Sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 trade sheldon sign mo trade mo, sign coples, add weight, keep richardson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 trade mo, sign coples, add weight, keep richardson That may be the way they go Mo may be out pricing himself off the team.. Sheldon with all his problems may be easier to sign.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mo was the best player on the field for us on Sunday. Dude is a relentless monster. He's Klecko-good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 That may be the way they go Mo may be out pricing himself off the team.. Sheldon with all his problems may be easier to sign.. i think you are getting ahead of yourself with Sheldon. they might not want to re-sign him either. he is too cheap right now and they still control him for the rest of this year, and 2-3 more years if they choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Mo was the best player on the field for us on Sunday. Dude is a relentless monster. He's Klecko-good. Oh yeah I can't wait till he makes a Pro Bowl.. Good as Klecko??LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Oh yeah I can't wait till he makes a Pro Bowl.. Good as Klecko??LOL Yes.... because the pro-bowl is the end-all, be-all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yes.... because the pro-bowl is the end-all, be-all. Of course it's not but if Mo had a Klecko type reputation he would have been in one by now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yes.... because the pro-bowl is the end-all, be-all. Of course it is! Geno Smith was one QB turning it down from being a pro bowler last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Of course it is! Geno Smith was one QB turning it down from being a pro bowler last season. That's how Kenny O made it in 1991 with 10 tds and 11 picks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzogtheDefiler Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Pay Mo. Sheldon looks fat to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Pay Mo. Sheldon looks fat to me. I actually noticed that. Not that there is anything wrong with being fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzogtheDefiler Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Not when you are young but as he ages.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 That may be the way they go Mo may be out pricing himself off the team.. Sheldon with all his problems may be easier to sign.. Mo was the best player on the field for us on Sunday. Dude is a relentless monster. He's Klecko-good. Only Jets fans "the guy is playing too good to be a Jet!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Only Jets fans "the guy is playing too good to be a Jet!" So you would give him a JJ Watt contract tomorrow??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I actually noticed that. Not that there is anything wrong with being fat. Sheldon does look fat...but he has at least two hits on the QB in each game. He has flashed. Mo and Revis easily look like our two best defensive players, far and away. Leonard has a ways to go and do we want Sheldon helping him get there as Mo signs elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 So you would give him a JJ Watt contract tomorrow??? if he plays like watt yes but he isnt and if ryan fitzpatrick played like brady id give him 20 mill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 if he plays like watt yes but he isnt and if ryan fitzpatrick played like brady id give him 20 mill It's strange why Mo isn't signed they just say they are far apart. I think Mo thinks he should be paid like Watt because players with Mo's skill level are signed all the time by their teams.. Brady is making 14 million this year would you give Mo that?? I wouldn't here's a list of 3-4 DE contracts http://overthecap.com/position/3-4-defensive-end/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 It's strange why Mo isn't signed they just say they are far apart. I think Mo thinks he should be paid like Watt because players with Mo's skill level are signed all the time by their teams.. Brady is making 14 million this year would you give Mo that?? I wouldn't here's a list of 3-4 DE contracts http://overthecap.com/position/3-4-defensive-end/ 12 million a year makes him the #2 in football, after Watt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 12 million a year makes him the #2 in football, after Watt. And you think he's only 2nd to Watt?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 It's strange why Mo isn't signed they just say they are far apart. I think Mo thinks he should be paid like Watt because players with Mo's skill level are signed all the time by their teams.. Brady is making 14 million this year would you give Mo that?? I wouldn't here's a list of 3-4 DE contracts http://overthecap.com/position/3-4-defensive-end/ you think it but who knows what truth is. Fact is i want jets players to play best as possible. If we lose guys later oh well but to hope guys play worse so theyre cheaper is wuite frankly insane imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 you think it but who knows what truth is. Fact is i want jets players to play best as possible. If we lose guys later oh well but to hope guys play worse so theyre cheaper is wuite frankly insane imho Who said that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster2 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 where was Mo in the second half of the Pat game , he never makes a big play with the game on the line, the Jets is not going to pay someone the big bucks for 12 sacks year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 where was Mo in the second half of the Pat game , he never makes a big play with the game on the line, the Jets is not going to pay someone the big bucks for 12 sacks year If he got 12 sacks a year, he deserves to be paid more than Suh...who has never had more than 10. Wilkerson is the #2 rated run defensive dlineman, after Snacks in the entire NFL. Better against the pass than Suh, better against the run than Suh and Watt...but he doesnt deserve to get paid like them...bad news for the board, he's better than Suh, by a mile, so he will be paid a hair short of Suh and Watt money...by the Jets or someone else. Then we'll be 1 strike from Sheldon getting a 1 year suspension (all he has to do is be late for a single piss test, and he's out 1 year), and Williams with 21 tackles and 0.5 sacks while not be the focus of ANY offensive game plan... Yep, let him walk and see what 0 sacks from him looks like and a dline with Douzable as a starter and ....behind him. Doesnt sound appetizing to me. Sometimes you dont know what you have till it's gone, right John Abraham and Hugh Douglas? (yes, lets not argue 3-4 and 4-3 here with any history lessons, thanks)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 If he got 12 sacks a year, he deserves to be paid more than Suh...who has never had more than 10. Wilkerson is the #2 rated run defensive dlineman, after Snacks in the entire NFL. Better against the pass than Suh, better against the run than Suh and Watt...but he doesnt deserve to get paid like them...bad news for the board, he's better than Suh, by a mile, so he will be paid a hair short of Suh and Watt money...by the Jets or someone else. Then we'll be 1 strike from Sheldon getting a 1 year suspension (all he has to do is be late for a single piss test, and he's out 1 year), and Williams with 21 tackles and 0.5 sacks while not be the focus of ANY offensive game plan... Yep, let him walk and see what 0 sacks from him looks like and a dline with Douzable as a starter and ....behind him. Doesnt sound appetizing to me. Sometimes you dont know what you have till it's gone, right John Abraham and Hugh Douglas? (yes, lets not argue 3-4 and 4-3 here with any history lessons, thanks)... where did you get 1 year suspension from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 where did you get 1 year suspension from? He has a 4 game suspension under his belt, right? He has another suspension pending, right, set to be executed in 2016 for the drag race, child endangerment, weed in the car incident, right? Then what happens when he gets in trouble again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 He has a 4 game suspension under his belt, right? He has another suspension pending, right, set to be executed in 2016 for the drag race, child endangerment, weed in the car incident, right? Then what happens when he gets in trouble again... for a dirty urine? 10 games. they are separate issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 He has a 4 game suspension under his belt, right? He has another suspension pending, right, set to be executed in 2016 for the drag race, child endangerment, weed in the car incident, right? Then what happens when he gets in trouble again... plus i don't think his latest issue will amount to much. i doubt he gets suspended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 If he got 12 sacks a year, he deserves to be paid more than Suh...who has never had more than 10. Wilkerson is the #2 rated run defensive dlineman, after Snacks in the entire NFL. Better against the pass than Suh, better against the run than Suh and Watt...but he doesnt deserve to get paid like them...bad news for the board, he's better than Suh, by a mile, so he will be paid a hair short of Suh and Watt money...by the Jets or someone else. Then we'll be 1 strike from Sheldon getting a 1 year suspension (all he has to do is be late for a single piss test, and he's out 1 year), and Williams with 21 tackles and 0.5 sacks while not be the focus of ANY offensive game plan... Yep, let him walk and see what 0 sacks from him looks like and a dline with Douzable as a starter and ....behind him. Doesnt sound appetizing to me. Sometimes you dont know what you have till it's gone, right John Abraham and Hugh Douglas? (yes, lets not argue 3-4 and 4-3 here with any history lessons, thanks)... Suh is a DT Mo is a DE why not post a link or is that just your opinion?? Here's one that has him behind Sheldon and others.. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1997713-br-nfl-1000-top-35-3-4-defensive-ends/page/30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Suh is a DT Mo is a DE why not post a link or is that just your opinion?? Here's one that has him behind Sheldon and others.. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1997713-br-nfl-1000-top-35-3-4-defensive-ends/page/30 Mo is 315lbs and Suh is 320. I don't feel either is a NT, or 4-3 DE, so I think if Suh was a Jet instead of Wilkerson, he'd play 3-4 DE beside Snack and Sheldon on the other side, much like Wilkerson. So I think its comparable in my simple mind. I think Wilkerson is shooting for Watt and Suh deals. He's shooting for this and the Jets are hoping for Jordan and Heyward like deals. I think it will be much closer to Watt/Suh money, but a hair less. So if he's shooting for Suh/Watt type deals, doesnt his comparison need to be their production, vs the run and pass? He scores higher than Suh on both, pass and run, and higher than Watt vs the run, obviously Watt is the most elite defensive line pass rusher. So the argument he's not elite, his production is with the elite, better than the overrated Suh who plays when he wants to play. People complain about when Wilkerson's production comes..Suh disappears entire games. IE, see our game. Wilkerson can make an easy case he's better than Suh and his xxx deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Do you have the link for your stats?? If he got 12 sacks a year, he deserves to be paid more than Suh...who has never had more than 10. Wilkerson is the #2 rated run defensive dlineman, after Snacks in the entire NFL. Better against the pass than Suh, better against the run than Suh and Watt...but he doesnt deserve to get paid like them...bad news for the board, he's better than Suh, by a mile, so he will be paid a hair short of Suh and Watt money...by the Jets or someone else. Then we'll be 1 strike from Sheldon getting a 1 year suspension (all he has to do is be late for a single piss test, and he's out 1 year), and Williams with 21 tackles and 0.5 sacks while not be the focus of ANY offensive game plan... Yep, let him walk and see what 0 sacks from him looks like and a dline with Douzable as a starter and ....behind him. Doesnt sound appetizing to me. Sometimes you dont know what you have till it's gone, right John Abraham and Hugh Douglas? (yes, lets not argue 3-4 and 4-3 here with any history lessons, thanks)... Do you have a link for your stats?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Franchise next season- this is off season you cut Mangold, Cro, Snacks and Coples and restructure Brick. i think you keep Mo and Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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