TuscanyTile2 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I asked this in response to a different thread but will make it it's own thread (especially since it's a bye week and things are very slow). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Yes... In a New York minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Potential Franchise Q.B for a 3-4 D.E Neverrrrr!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Revoke Sheldons drivers license and your Crushlove is in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I'm a huge fan of Leonard. The level of talent (not production quite yet) he has shown is ridiculous. Reminds me of watching Revis is his first few games where you could just tell that the guy was born to play football. But, yes, I'd reluctantly have to trade him for Mariotta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Tough choice. Leonard Williams is a lock to be a great player and Mariota is far from a lock... but the potential of getting a franchise quarterback over a franchise defensive lineman is too intriguing. You've got to do it I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I love. Our players. Period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I asked this in response to a different thread but will make it it's own thread (especially since it's a bye week and things are very slow). I'd throw him away for Mike Glennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 I'd throw him away for Mike Glennon. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonJet Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Being hypothetical and looking at the potential of both players (Williams and Mariota), would you trade Richard Seymour for Colin Kaepernick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I haven't seen mariota play at all. Mariota's potential is more like wilson or dalton imho. The titans wouldn't do it I bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Not at thia moment. I think we all know Williams will be a force for years to come while im just not convinced at Mariota yet. Defenses will eventually catch on and itll be about how he adjusts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Sadly, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 We could have had Mariota in exchange for two meaningless December wins, but noooOOOOOOooooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 This thread makes Fitzpatrick's beard cry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Mariota looked very pedestrian today. Have a feeling the league is going to catch up with him. I'll keep "Big Cat" and Petty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I asked this in response to a different thread but will make it it's own thread (especially since it's a bye week and things are very slow). Would they? Laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I'd throw him away for Mike Glennon. Lmaooooo wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Mariota looked very pedestrian today. Have a feeling the league is going to catch up with him. I'll keep "Big Cat" and Petty the league has already caught up with Mariota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Luck was as close to a sure thing coming out of the draft as there is. Mariotta was not and is not. I like Mariotta. He is clearly an NFL QB. Williams otoh is already the real deal. Depending on contracts and such he'll be a Jet for life. Until we make a final determination on Geno we're not in position to "sell out". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Luck was as close to a sure thing coming out of the draft as there is. Mariotta was not and is not. I like Mariotta. He is clearly an NFL QB. Williams otoh is already the real deal. Depending on contracts and such he'll be a Jet for life. Until we make a final determination on Geno we're not in position to "sell out". I hope the determination has been made not sure what other evidence is needed to know within a reasonable degree of certainty that geno is a bum. the odds of him becoming a mature leader who can read defenses and live up to his physical talent are powerballesque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Absolutely not. We can probably have Mariota in 4 years after TEN cuts him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 yea great trade if reality was like Madden football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 We could have had Mariota in exchange for two meaningless December wins, but noooOOOOOOooooo. I would definitely trade those wins for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Diddy Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I would trade Leonard Williams for Jameis but not for Mariota. Jameis is a stud. Mariota is average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I haven't seen mariota play at all. Mariota's potential is more like wilson or dalton imho. The titans wouldn't do it I bet Considering that they could have taken Williams at #2 I'd say that's a safe bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 I would trade Leonard Williams for Jameis but not for Mariota. Jameis is a stud. Mariota is average at best. Has Jameis been good so far? I haven't really watched. I know ASJ is injured so that takes away a weapon of his. Doug Martin seems to be back though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManCave Analyst Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I would not make that trade, but, I would make a mid round ( 3rd ) pick offer for his backup Zack Mettenberger who has a cannon for an arm . That fits in very well when the wind picks up as winter approaches. That kid can play and is better than what we currently have , and what will enter the draft . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I hope the determination has been made not sure what other evidence is needed to know within a reasonable degree of certainty that geno is a bum. the odds of him becoming a mature leader who can read defenses and live up to his physical talent are powerballesque. This attitude puzzles me. Educated consensus was that Geno should not have started as a rookie. Actually with Luck being the exception, most rookie QB's should be learning from the bench. Year two he had the worst WR corps in the league, MM as an OC who badly misused Chris Johnson, and Rex who insisted on wildcat plays. Further, Geno can make all the throws and he seemed to be picking things up at the end of 2014 and on thru preseason. To say the jury is already in on him, with no doubt whatsoever, is premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 This attitude puzzles me. Educated consensus was that Geno should not have started as a rookie. Actually with Luck being the exception, most rookie QB's should be learning from the bench. Year two he had the worst WR corps in the league, MM as an OC who badly misused Chris Johnson, and Rex who insisted on wildcat plays. Further, Geno can make all the throws and he seemed to be picking things up at the end of 2014 and on thru preseason. To say the jury is already in on him, with no doubt whatsoever, is premature. 30 games. worst QB in NFL. it's over, or at least a reasonable conclusion could be made it's over. If he was a Dolphin no Jets fans would fear he would suddenly become good. Objectivity is required here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 So every rookie QB should come in and play lights out right away? Or can we discount some of those 30 games? So every 2nd year QB should play lights out regardless of how badly the GM/HC/OC screw him over re skilled players and offensive game plan? Geno showed improvement end 2014 start 2015. How much improvement is anybodies guess. My guess is he's worth a shot before we "sell out" and trade our sure thing DL for another hopeful at QB. Let's see what we have first. It's not like this is our last chance ever to acquire a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Diddy Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Has Jameis been good so far? I haven't really watched. I know ASJ is injured so that takes away a weapon of his. Doug Martin seems to be back though. Jameis looked great yesterday vs. the Jaguars. Granted its only the jags but Jameis can really do it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 So every rookie QB should come in and play lights out right away? Or can we discount some of those 30 games? So every 2nd year QB should play lights out regardless of how badly the GM/HC/OC screw him over re skilled players and offensive game plan? Geno showed improvement end 2014 start 2015. How much improvement is anybodies guess. My guess is he's worth a shot before we "sell out" and trade our sure thing DL for another hopeful at QB. Let's see what we have first. It's not like this is our last chance ever to acquire a QB. Yeah it's only been 45 years, what's another lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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