ZachEY Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 he chose to stay in a great situation rather than go start for a crappy team. what is wrong w/ that? he will basically get one more shot, if he fails he will be a career backup. probably as mad as you were when mark was helping us reach title games. Hahaha... Being a back-up is a "great situation?" I guess that's true, if you have no desire nor ability to start. You realize that there's 0 evidence to support your narrative surrounding Sanchez's thought process, right? It's something you've entirely crafted. In reality, and not your imaginative analysis of Sanchez's psyche, he's a back-up QB and nothing more, a role that he's accepted for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Hope we can get better pressure on Brady then we have been getting on the QB. i still believe our secondary is pretty exploitable and putting Tom Tom's helmet in the turf will help that out immensely. Love what this D is growing in to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 if this D stays healthy, it could break quite a few records The supposed defensive 'genius' that is Rex Ryan (not), has turned a prolific Buffalo defense mediocre as only he can. By placing players out of their comfort zone so that he can create his wayyyyyy too complicated blitz scheme's that already have Darius and Williams frustrated to the point of going to the media and saying "Rex needs to let us rush more." Can't tell you all how much I love Rex......being in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Philly signed him before he could become a FA or he'd be starting somewhere. In philly they are calling for Mark, I saw articles where in dallas and DC they wish they had Mark and others do as well. Fitz was 4-1 in 2011 too, how did that end up? when Mark was 4-1 he helped us reach a title game. Let this thing play out. No one forced Sanchez to re-sign with the Eagles. If he was such a hot commodity, he could have signed with another team and started somewhere else. He stinks. Fitzpatrick is better than Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 a guy that won 5-6 games late in 2010 through the sir or we wouldn't have made the playoffs but yeah we'd be better w/ a guy that has never won more than 6 games in a season. I am rooting for Fitz, I have moved on but I won't allow people to change history. I hope Fitz plays like he did last week rather than the first 4 games where he tried to lose games. More like three. And he had to win those games late because of the putrid offensive performances he put up the first three quarters. I like how people talk about the late game drive he had against the Colts in the 2011 playoffs. Well, he led the offense to 0 points in the first half and only 17 overall. That's pathetic. He's lucky the defense was really good and held the Colts to 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 More like three. And he had to win those games late because of the putrid offensive performances he put up the first three quarters. I like how people talk about the late game drive he had against the Colts in the 2011 playoffs. Well, he led the offense to 0 points in the first half and only 17 overall. That's pathetic. He's lucky the defense was really good and held the Colts to 16. Totally. Same thing when they give him credit for the win over the Chargers in the playoffs where he threw for like 100 yards -- and our defense held them to 7 points when the game was still in contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 When we bought Revis, Cro and Skrine no objective person didn't think this wouldn't be a great defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 a guy that won 5-6 games late in 2010 through the sir or we wouldn't have made the playoffs but yeah we'd be better w/ a guy that has never won more than 6 games in a season. I am rooting for Fitz, I have moved on but I won't allow people to change history. I hope Fitz plays like he did last week rather than the first 4 games where he tried to lose games. You're "rooting for Fitz"...yes, of course you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Totally. Same thing when they give him credit for the win over the Chargers in the playoffs where he threw for like 100 yards -- and our defense held them to 7 points when the game was still in contention. Nyjunc says Sanchez was the man that day. Yes, a 100 yard performance blew him away. Taking the whole "he won a playoff" game BS in to account, how would you not be screaming for Tim Tebow to sign with the Jets? He's won more playoff games than Fitz, and he's still out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Would it be possible to keep nyjunc's pro-Sanchez and pro-Rex propaganda to one thread? It ends up polluting the board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 The Jets have surpassed the Denver Broncos as the number one defense in the NFL - # 1 in total defense, # 1 in points allowed and 3rd in rushing defense. This is what the Jets have been missing. We just have to take better care of the football on Offense and this team can be special. http://www.nfl.com/stats/team The real question is can we beat the Patriots and whatever method of cheating they are using right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Nyjunc says Sanchez was the man that day. Yes, a 100 yard performance blew him away. Taking the whole "he won a playoff" game BS in to account, how would you not be screaming for Tim Tebow to sign with the Jets? He's won more playoff games than Fitz, and he's still out there. to be fair, their field goal kicker pretty much gave us the game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 to be fair, their field goal kicker pretty much gave us the game.... People tend to overstate that -- one of his misses was a prayer at the end of the half. Only one of them was an easy "gimme" kick. But yeah, he sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Totally. Same thing when they give him credit for the win over the Chargers in the playoffs where he threw for like 100 yards -- and our defense held them to 7 points when the game was still in contention. Exactly. The offense's job is to put up points. The goal should be to put up 25+ points on the scoreboard each week. You can't control what the defense does. Your job is just to put up points. And just because you won the game doesn't mean you played well. You put up 17 points on a team that was allowing 25 points per game. Meanwhile, You credit the defense for holding the other team's high powered offense that averaged 30 ppg at home to 16 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 When we bought Revis, Cro and Skrine no objective person didn't think this wouldn't be a great defense. And Gilchrist is a huge upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 it is kinda cool to face them without the pats* having the HC's playbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Hahaha... Being a back-up is a "great situation?" I guess that's true, if you have no desire nor ability to start. You realize that there's 0 evidence to support your narrative surrounding Sanchez's thought process, right? It's something you've entirely crafted. In reality, and not your imaginative analysis of Sanchez's psyche, he's a back-up QB and nothing more, a role that he's accepted for himself. a backup w/ a good offensive coach and offensive talent around him is better than going to a crappy team and getting beat up and ruining his last real chance to be a starter. No one forced Sanchez to re-sign with the Eagles. If he was such a hot commodity, he could have signed with another team and started somewhere else. He stinks. Fitzpatrick is better than Sanchez. he re-signed on his own, Philly offered him a nice contract, overpaid for a backup, and he decided to stay where he was comfortable. what is wrong w/ that? Nyjunc says Sanchez was the man that day. Yes, a 100 yard performance blew him away. Taking the whole "he won a playoff" game BS in to account, how would you not be screaming for Tim Tebow to sign with the Jets? He's won more playoff games than Fitz, and he's still out there. he wasn't "the man" but he was better than the overrated Rivers who handed us that game. he did play a lot better than the #s indicate but fans are too fixated on fantasy #s to realize that. Tebow won ONE playoff game, at HOME in a year he led a team to an 8-8 record. mark helped us win 4 ROAD playoff games including 2 div rd games over the AFC favorites each year. one was a fluke, the other was not. Why is Fitz on team #7? why has he played for 4 teams the last 4 years? why can't teams see his greatness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 to be fair, their field goal kicker pretty much gave us the game.... The Kicker missed 2 makeable FGs but the "great" Philip Rivers handed us the game making the big mistake from his own EZ to set us up taking the lead on a TD which was a GREAT play by our rookie QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 a backup w/ a good offensive coach and offensive talent around him is better than going to a crappy team and getting beat up and ruining his last real chance to be a starter. Yes, but you see, that is nyjunc's thought process, not necessarily Mark Sanchez's thought process. Just because you can come up with an excuse for why he's not starting doesn't mean that it's reality, especially when history dictates that players take the money and the opportunity to start, regardless of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Yes, but you see, that is nyjunc's thought process, not necessarily Mark Sanchez's thought process. Just because you can come up with an excuse for why he's not starting doesn't mean that it's reality, especially when history dictates that players take the money and the opportunity to start, regardless of the team. you can ignore reality all you want. he's better than at least half the starting QBs around the league and would have been one of the top FAs if he made it to FA. Philly overpaid to keep him and he decided to stay where he was wanted rather than go to a new team and play in his 5th system in 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loluchka80 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 you can ignore reality all you want. he's better than at least half the starting QBs around the league and would have been one of the top FAs if he made it to FA. Philly overpaid to keep him and he decided to stay where he was wanted rather than go to a new team and play in his 5th system in 5 years. which QB's is he better than? Division: Team (starting quarterbacks list): Current starting quarterback: College drafted from: Year drafted (pick): Starter since: Ref: NFC West Arizona Cardinals (list) Carson Palmer USC 2003 (1) September 13, 2015 [7] NFC South Atlanta Falcons (list) Matt Ryan Boston College 2008 (3) December 20, 2009 [8] AFC North Baltimore Ravens (list) Joe Flacco Delaware 2008 (18) September 7, 2008 [9] AFC East Buffalo Bills (list) Tyrod Taylor Virginia Tech 2011 (180) September 13, 2015 [10] NFC South Carolina Panthers (list) Cam Newton Auburn 2011 (1) December 21, 2014 [11] NFC North Chicago Bears (list) Jay Cutler Vanderbilt 2006 (11) October 4, 2015 [12] AFC North Cincinnati Bengals (list) Andy Dalton TCU 2011 (35) September 11, 2011 [13] AFC North Cleveland Browns (list) Josh McCown Sam Houston State 2002 (81) September 27, 2015 [14] NFC East Dallas Cowboys (list) Brandon Weeden Oklahoma State 2012 (22) September 27, 2015 [15] AFC West Denver Broncos (list) Peyton Manning Tennessee 1998 (1) September 9, 2012 [16] NFC North Detroit Lions (list) Matthew Stafford Georgia 2009 (1) September 11, 2011 [17] NFC North Green Bay Packers (list) Aaron Rodgers Cal 2005 (24) December 29, 2013 [18] AFC South Houston Texans (list) Ryan Mallett Arkansas 2011 (74) September 20, 2015 [19] AFC South Indianapolis Colts (list) Andrew Luck Stanford 2012 (1) September 9, 2012 [20] AFC South Jacksonville Jaguars (list) Blake Bortles UCF 2014 (3) September 28, 2014 [21] AFC West Kansas City Chiefs (list) Alex Smith Utah 2005 (1) September 13, 2015 [22] AFC East Miami Dolphins (list) Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M 2012 (8) September 9, 2012 [23] NFC North Minnesota Vikings (list) Teddy Bridgewater Louisville 2014 (32) October 12, 2014 [24] AFC East New England Patriots (list) Tom Brady University of Michigan 2000 (199) September 14, 2009 [25] NFC South New Orleans Saints (list) Drew Brees Purdue 2004 (106) October 4, 2015 [26] NFC East New York Giants (list) Eli Manning Ole Miss 2004 (1) November 21, 2004 [6] AFC East New York Jets (list) Ryan Fitzpatrick Harvard 2005 (250) September 13, 2015 [27] AFC West Oakland Raiders (list) Derek Carr Fresno State 2014 (36) September 7, 2014 [28] NFC East Philadelphia Eagles (list) Sam Bradford Oklahoma 2010 (1) September 14, 2015 [29] AFC North Pittsburgh Steelers (list) Michael Vick Virginia Tech 2001 (1) September 28, 2015 [30] AFC West San Diego Chargers (list) Philip Rivers NC State 2004 (4) September 11, 2006 [31] NFC West San Francisco 49ers (list) Colin Kaepernick Nevada 2011 (36) November 19, 2012 [32] NFC West Seattle Seahawks (list) Russell Wilson Wisconsin 2012 (75) September 9, 2012 [33] NFC West St. Louis Rams (list) Nick Foles Arizona 2012 (88) September 13, 2015 [34] NFC South Tampa Bay Buccaneers (list) Jameis Winston Florida State 2015 (1) September 13, 2015 [35] AFC South Tennessee Titans (list) Marcus Mariota Oregon 2015 (2) September 13, 2015 [36] NFC East Washington Redskins (list) Kirk Cousins Michigan State 2012 (102) September 13, 2015 [37] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 you can ignore reality all you want. he's better than at least half the starting QBs around the league and would have been one of the top FAs if he made it to FA. Philly overpaid to keep him and he decided to stay where he was wanted rather than go to a new team and play in his 5th system in 5 years. It's amusing that you accuse others of ignoring reality when you literally invented a narrative to support your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 which QB's is he better than? On your list? Taylor Cutler mcCown Weeden Stafford Mallett Bortles Tannehill Fitz Carr Bradford Vick Kaep Foles Winston Cousins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzogtheDefiler Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 On your list? Taylor Cutler mcCown Weeden Stafford Mallett Bortles Tannehill Fitz Carr Bradford Vick Kaep Foles Winston Cousins No - Carr, Foles, Bortles, Stafford are better. Vick is not a starter.Neither is Mallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 No - Carr, Foles, Bortles, Stafford are better. Vick is not a starter.Neither is Mallet. I was using his list. he's better than Landry Jones and the other guy in Houston too. Carr and Bortles are still developing. He took Foles O and was MUCH better a year ago in Philly against tougher portion of sched. Stafford is nothing more than a #s guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 a backup w/ a good offensive coach and offensive talent around him is better than going to a crappy team and getting beat up and ruining his last real chance to be a starter. he re-signed on his own, Philly offered him a nice contract, overpaid for a backup, and he decided to stay where he was comfortable. what is wrong w/ that? he wasn't "the man" but he was better than the overrated Rivers who handed us that game. he did play a lot better than the #s indicate but fans are too fixated on fantasy #s to realize that. Tebow won ONE playoff game, at HOME in a year he led a team to an 8-8 record. mark helped us win 4 ROAD playoff games including 2 div rd games over the AFC favorites each year. one was a fluke, the other was not. Why is Fitz on team #7? why has he played for 4 teams the last 4 years? why can't teams see his greatness? Don't sweat it, if Bradford throws a dozen or so INTs this week, Chip may have no choice but to go to Sanchez. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Don't sweat it, if Bradford throws a dozen or so INTs this week, Chip may have no choice but to go to Sanchez. Maybe. Chip is being stubborn, Bradford is killing his team. everyone is calling for Sanchez in Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I was using his list. he's better than Landry Jones and the other guy in Houston too. Carr and Bortles are still developing. He took Foles O and was MUCH better a year ago in Philly against tougher portion of sched. Stafford is nothing more than a #s guy. A compiler??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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