Jetster Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Looks like Enunwa, Owusu and Smith being put in front of Kerley was a mistake. Not getting Mauldin & Reilly up to speed to sit Pace? Using Coples the same way Rex did? Not that we have more options there. Using Marcus Williams as a safety? Starting Antonio Cromartie, when you have alternatives like Walls or Milliner? Where are these creative lineups we heard about when Bowles was hired? Big Nickles, dimes, blitzing more than anyone in the league? It's not a criticism, just an open ended question. Did Bowles all of a sudden get conservative when given the reigns? Down 14 with 3 minutes over the 50 punt? Really? He's made some curious decisions & continues to trot Cro out there to get burnt every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 We have no idea how players are performing in the class room. That will tell a coach just as much, perhaps more than what we see on the field on Sundays. The only thing I can say with absolutely certainty is that Cromartie playing 20 yards off week in and week out is on the Coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Tell the truth. Is this another way of saying Bowles should be playimg Geno? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I wasn't ecstatic with the Bowles hire to begin with, and the first 7 games certainly haven't changed my opinion. Hopefully he learns from his mistakes, something Rex never did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 Tell the truth. Is this another way of saying Bowles should be playimg Geno? Not at all. Sticking with Fitz is the right move. Hiring Bobby April? Not so much. I wasn't a fan of how he handled Mangolds injury & replacement either. We had like 100 guards in here & we don't have a center without experience? I know we had a guy they cut in camp that was with us last year & filled in for an injured Mangold & did well, I just can't remember his name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Looks like Enunwa, Owusu and Smith being put in front of Kerley was a mistake. Not getting Mauldin & Reilly up to speed to sit Pace? Using Coples the same way Rex did? Not that we have more options there. Using Marcus Williams as a safety? Starting Antonio Cromartie, when you have alternatives like Walls or Milliner? Where are these creative lineups we heard about when Bowles was hired? Big Nickles, dimes, blitzing more than anyone in the league? It's not a criticism, just an open ended question. Did Bowles all of a sudden get conservative when given the reigns? Down 14 with 3 minutes over the 50 punt? Really? He's made some curious decisions & continues to trot Cro out there to get burnt every week. 1. Using a CB as a safety isn't creative? It didn't work but it is creative. It's a lack of depth. 2. People keep sh*tting on the punt. IT WORKED. They got the ball back. 3. It is a criticism. Don't dress it up any differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I am most surprised so far in not blitzing more- he brought just about everyone in Arizona. Of course with Cro back to his 2013 self that is a huge risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I am most surprised so far in not blitzing more- he brought just about everyone in Arizona. Of course with Cro back to his 2013 self that is a huge risk Aren't they like, top 3 in blitz percentage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Aren't they like, top 3 in blitz percentage? Where are you getting that? I just go by what I am seeing and comparing it to what he did in arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Personnel wise, Im not too alarmed. Playing Cro sucks, but hes getting good cash from the Jets to play, not ride the bench. Kinda hand-tied there. Getting a TE involved more would be nice though..... Time management decisions seem to be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 1. Using a CB as a safety isn't creative? It didn't work but it is creative. It's a lack of depth. 2. People keep sh*tting on the punt. IT WORKED. They got the ball back. 3. It is a criticism. Don't dress it up any differently. Go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Zac Stacy returning kicks is ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Not at all. Sticking with Fitz is the right move. Hiring Bobby April? Not so much. I wasn't a fan of how he handled Mangolds injury & replacement either. We had like 100 guards in here & we don't have a center without experience? I know we had a guy they cut in camp that was with us last year & filled in for an injured Mangold & did well, I just can't remember his name? Dalton Freeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 1. Using a CB as a safety isn't creative? It didn't work but it is creative. It's a lack of depth. 2. People keep sh*tting on the punt. IT WORKED. They got the ball back. 3. It is a criticism. Don't dress it up any differently. Rex did the exact same thing with Allen.(#1) How creative can it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Rex did the exact same thing with Allen. How creative can it be? It was exactly the opposite with Allen actually. He was a safety playing corner which is a more difficult transition that CB to S generally speaking. This situation is a CB playing safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Where are you getting that? I just go by what I am seeing and comparing it to what he did in arizona I mean, he blitzes more than any other team in the NFL but one or 2. You said he's not blitzing much, but he blitzes more than anyone but 1-2 other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 It was exactly the opposite with Allen actually. He was a safety playing corner which is a more difficult transition that CB to S generally speaking. This situation is a CB playing safety. I would expect Milliner makes a transition to safety when he is officially back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I would expect Milliner makes a transition to safety when he is officially back. Why would you expect that at all? You're going to put a injury riddled player at a more high impact position, why? It makes no sense. You don't draft a guy top ten and then change his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Why would you expect that at all? You're going to put a injury riddled player at a more high impact position, why? It makes no sense. You don't draft a guy top ten and then change his position. Well, first, he had a significant injury last year, in which he probably lost a lot of agility. Secondly, he is at the bottom of a talented roster, and the current regime didn't draft him. Lastly, I would anticipate a three safety set where Pryor comes into the box, and play two over with him and Gilchrist. Edit: As far as durability, if he can't tackle without getting hurt, he is going to get hurt anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Looks like Enunwa, Owusu and Smith being put in front of Kerley was a mistake. Not getting Mauldin & Reilly up to speed to sit Pace? Using Coples the same way Rex did? Not that we have more options there. Using Marcus Williams as a safety? Starting Antonio Cromartie, when you have alternatives like Walls or Milliner? Where are these creative lineups we heard about when Bowles was hired? Big Nickles, dimes, blitzing more than anyone in the league? It's not a criticism, just an open ended question. Did Bowles all of a sudden get conservative when given the reigns? Down 14 with 3 minutes over the 50 punt? Really? He's made some curious decisions & continues to trot Cro out there to get burnt every week. He punted because his ****in QB was 15 miles out of bounds mentally pondering butterflies and what movie he's gonna see next while completely oblivious the clock was running because he quit running and gave up forward progression. Did you not see the look of disgust on Bowles face? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Well, first, he had a significant injury last year, in which he probably lost a lot of agility. Secondly, he is at the bottom of a talented roster, and the current regime didn't draft him. Lastly, I would anticipate a three safety set where Pryor comes into the box, and play two over with him and Gilchrist. Edit: As far as durability, if he can't tackle without getting hurt, he is going to get hurt anywhere. 3 safeties and 3 corners? Surely you can't be serious. They aren't moving Milliner to safety. If Pryor and Gilchrist are healthy, he'd get no run there. The Jets need to figure out if he can be an NFL corner sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 3 safeties and 3 corners? Surely you can't be serious. They aren't moving Milliner to safety. If Pryor and Gilchrist are healthy, he'd get no run there. The Jets need to figure out if he can be an NFL corner sooner rather than later. Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 It was exactly the opposite with Allen actually. He was a safety playing corner which is a more difficult transition that CB to S generally speaking. This situation is a CB playing safety. Fine. Is it really that much more of a "creative" move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Zac Stacy returning kicks is ludicrous. Got Leon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 the kerley situation remains very strange. he is a very nice compliment to the two trees outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I wasn't ecstatic with the Bowles hire to begin with, and the first 7 games certainly haven't changed my opinion. Hopefully he learns from his mistakes, something Rex never did. Who would you of preferred we hired ,Quinn who just lost to Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 The three rookie head coaches are currently having problems. Quinn and Bowles started out well, but have hit skids. Tomsula has had internal strife to deal with. The other new HC's? Jack Del Rio John Fox Rex Ryan Gary Kubiak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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