Patriot Killa Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 This is what happens when a 2nd round pick pays off. They have they're guy and didnt even have to pay a 1st rounder to get him. This type of luck we need. But of course we had to go with Smith Round 2, 13'. Who do you think can be this years Carr? I really like Paxton but he will not be there round 2. Carr Career Stats: Pass attempts: 872 Pass completions: 522 Percentage: 59.9 TD–INT: 40–16 Passing yards: 5,364 Passer rating: 85.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Carr looks really good. Thank God that Woody forced Rex on the GM so that we got Idzik, who in turn took Geno, and saw enough in Geno (ROTFLMFAO) to pass on both Carr AND Bridgewater. And then we wonder why we perennially suck...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Carr looks really good. Thank God that Woody forced Rex on the GM so that we got Idzik, who in turn took Geno, and saw enough in Geno (ROTFLMFAO) to pass on both Carr AND Bridgewater. And then we wonder why we perennially suck...... They took Geno in the 2nd rd in 2013 so how did they pass on Carr and Bridgewater in 2014?? Carr went in the 2nd rd before our second pick and to take Bridgewater we would have had to use a 1st on him.. Most GM's aren't going to take a qb with a high pick the next year after taking one the year before.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I screamed for Carr and thought he was the only real franchise QB in that draft. I would've been happy if we took him with our 1. Lots of folks spewed about this or that game where he "couldn't handle the rush" or decided he would sucked because his brother didn't pan out. He's going to be special and he should've been a Jet. OK. End rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 Carr looks really good. Thank God that Woody forced Rex on the GM so that we got Idzik, who in turn took Geno, and saw enough in Geno (ROTFLMFAO) to pass on both Carr AND Bridgewater. And then we wonder why we perennially suck...... all we needed was one more year and we could of grabbed him we have the worst timing with QB's. Sanchez should of been gone 2012. Geno comes in 13'.. Shows nothing. And we should of drafted 2nd round QB again the next year. Draft until we find one. So the real question here is ... Who can it be this year? Are there ANY this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 They took Geno in the 2nd rd in 2013 so how did they pass on Carr and Bridgewater in 2014?? Carr went in the 2nd rd before our second pick and to take Bridgewater we would have had to use a 1st on him.. Most GM's aren't going to take a qb with a high pick the next year after taking one the year before.. well maybe they should. You don't excuse your second mistake by citing your first. Should never have taken that dope in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 well maybe they should. You don't excuse your second mistake by citing your first. Should never have taken that dope in the first place. he was a spread QB and the minute he threw a fit at not being picked round 1 we should of went a different direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 When you draft a carr or bortles, feel free to give them Cooper and Crabtree, and Robinson, Hurns, and Lee to throw to....developing QBs with Nelson, Hill, Holmes, and Cumberland is no way to develop and evaluate a young QB.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 When you draft a carr or bortles, feel free to give them Cooper and Crabtree, and Robinson, Hurns, and Lee to throw to....developing QBs with Nelson, Hill, Holmes, and Cumberland is no way to develop and evaluate a young QB.... you left out Gates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 When you draft a carr or bortles, feel free to give them Cooper and Crabtree, and Robinson, Hurns, and Lee to throw to....developing QBs with Nelson, Hill, Holmes, and Cumberland is no way to develop and evaluate a young QB.... He showed less than what an average QB would do with those weapons. If they were unsure of what they had they still should of drafted a QB at some point the year after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 He showed less than what an average QB would do with those weapons. If they were unsure of what they had they still should of drafted a QB at some point the year after. if you put those weapons on the patriots right now...they'd be probably be .500...trying to convince anyone those are even serviceable weapons is a pretty strong reach, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 he was a spread QB and the minute he threw a fit at not being picked round 1 we should of went a different direction. Then Mark Sanchez would have been QBing that season, And fans would have been pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 if you put those weapons on the patriots right now...they'd be probably be .500...trying to convince anyone those are even serviceable weapons is a pretty strong reach, man. i wasnt trying to convince anyone that they are serviceable weapons. More of trying to stress Geno's play was that terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I screamed for Carr and thought he was the only real franchise QB in that draft. I would've been happy if we took him with our 1. Lots of folks spewed about this or that game where he "couldn't handle the rush" or decided he would sucked because his brother didn't pan out. He's going to be special and he should've been a Jet. OK. End rant. I was banging the coffee table for him, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 Then Mark Sanchez would have been QBing that season, And fans would have been pissed. it is what it is. Same results at the end of the day. My main point of this thread is to see if any of you guys see a franchise QB possibly available in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I was banging the coffee table for him, too. Was he drafted before the Jets pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I was banging the coffee table for him, too. Did you get a splinter in your willie?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 it is what it is. Same results at the end of the day. My main point of this thread is to see if any of you guys see a franchise QB possibly available in the 2nd round. If you want to draft a QB, I would draft Brandon Doughty. 4 year QB out of Western Kentucky. Had a great career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 i say this every year....you draft a qb until you have a franchise qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 If you want to draft a QB, I would draft Brandon Doughty. 4 year QB out of Western Kentucky. Had a great career. Pro style offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 i say this every year....you draft a qb until you have a franchise qb. But if you draft one every year, where do their reps come from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 They took Geno in the 2nd rd in 2013 so how did they pass on Carr and Bridgewater in 2014?? Carr went in the 2nd rd before our second pick and to take Bridgewater we would have had to use a 1st on him.. Most GM's aren't going to take a qb with a high pick the next year after taking one the year before.. I thought it means he sucks if every team passed on him in round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 But if you draft one every year, where do their reps come from true right here. Fitz probably won't be here next year... So 16' draft should be the time to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 true right here. Fitz probably won't be here next year... So 16' draft should be the time to do this. If you want to do it here, do it here. But dont waste a 1st round pick on one. We have other needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 i wasnt trying to convince anyone that they are serviceable weapons. More of trying to stress Geno's play was that terrible. Tom Brady's play would be average with those weapons, so by that accord, yes, Geno and even Dalton, Carr, bortles, and Carson Palmer would all be bottom 10 QBs with those weapons. you are correct, Geno was awful, and Brady and Rodgers would be rated 12-20 with those same weapons...as rookies Brady and Rodgers would be 25-35 with those same players...much like Geno was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 If you want to do it here, do it here. But dont waste a 1st round pick on one. We have other needs i agree. We shouldnt try 1st round. We wont be close enough anyway. We probably land some where in the middle of the pack draft selection wise. 2nd round,3rd or 4th. Then put Petty/Pick/Geno out in camp. Although that depth chart seems unstable.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I thought it means he sucks if every team passed on him in round 1. that only applies to jets players apparently: hill, ducass, Geno, Amaro, van dyke...sorry, still salty about that last one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 i say this every year....you draft a qb until you have a franchise qb. But if you draft one every year, where do their reps come from First thing I semi-agree with you on that I can remember. Otherwise it means keep drafting a QB every year until one of them shows he's a franchise QB as a rookie. The league has seen no shortage of its best QBs fail to show themselves to be franchise QBs during their rookie seasons. So it could lead to repeatedly drafting QBs high who aren't given ample time to shine, before drafting the new face of the franchise the following April. And if we're going to then say well at least take a later round QB every year, the odds of one of those hitting - also while getting relatively few reps - is slim. Most of those guys are either less talented (certainly have a lower ceiling), or they're very raw to begin with. Like Petty, who wasn't even a late round pick. Ultimately, you take a guy and make a judgment if you think he's going to pan out. If you do, then don't also burn a high pick the next year. Problem wasn't in employing that strategy; it was in failing to make the correct assessment on Geno after year 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 that only applies to jets players apparently: hill, ducass, Geno, Amaro, van dyke...sorry, still salty about that last one... The worst part about that pick - other than the obvious, that he turned into a huge bust - was that we already had 3 WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 i agree. We shouldnt try 1st round. We wont be close enough anyway. We probably land some where in the middle of the pack draft selection wise. 2nd round,3rd or 4th. Then put Petty/Pick/Geno out in camp. Although that depth chart seems unstable.? how do you know who's going to be available in the first round? if the jets like one of the top QB prospects enough they better draft him as quickly as they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 If you want to do it here, do it here. But dont waste a 1st round pick on one. We have other needs the jets biggest need by far, is QB. it's the only thing keeping the jets from being a legit playoff team right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmans a scientist Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Carr is also very good with a top 10 rookie WR. Geno Smith had similar numbers in his one game with a WR comparable to Amani Cooper. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Carr is also very good with a top 10 rookie WR. Geno Smith had similar numbers in his one game with a WR comparable to Amani Cooper. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Carr was also good last year when he had dogsh*t at WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Carr was also good last year when he had dogsh*t at WR was he good last year? He was rated #30, one spot behind Geno...he was worse last year than Geno... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 They took Geno in the 2nd rd in 2013 so how did they pass on Carr and Bridgewater in 2014?? Carr went in the 2nd rd before our second pick and to take Bridgewater we would have had to use a 1st on him.. Most GM's aren't going to take a qb with a high pick the next year after taking one the year before.. If they did not take Geno, OR, they realized how bad he sucked, they would have likely taken either Carr or Bridgewater in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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