Mike135 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Really glad I don't have to see his branded arms anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Perhaps the phins, lost wake for the season, coming off a few bad loses, head coach thinks hes a bad ass that can turn people around, we play them next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 just not true. but it keeps getting repeated as fact. when playing d-line, he has shown something. when playing olb, he shows nothing. who's fault is this? Coples was NOT an OLB. Do you make Ivory a LB, do you make Mangold a RB, do you make Geno a QB? NO. Coples was a DE. Period. If they didn't want him on the DL, they should have just traded him instead of forcing him into a position that just didn't fit his skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Perhaps the phins, lost wake for the season, coming off a few bad loses, head coach thinks hes a bad ass that can turn people around, we play them next. Tanny drafted him too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Coples was NOT an OLB. Do you make Ivory a LB, do you make Mangold a RB, do you make Geno a QB? NO. Coples was a DE. Period. If they didn't want him on the DL, they should have just traded him instead of forcing him into a position that just didn't fit his skill set. like I said earlier, let see how Wilkerson and Richardson would do playing olb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 when playing d-line, how so? at the end of the day, coples plays well on the d-line and sucks as an olb. how is this on the player as opposed to the coaching staff? He's a scrub who disappeared for too many stretches of the game and he had trouble playing the run. He unfortunately is what he was said to be, an athlete with no motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 just not true. but it keeps getting repeated as fact. when playing d-line, he has shown something. when playing olb, he shows nothing. who's fault is this? Maybe, but at this point it is what it is; Coples was stuck at LB for the same reason he was moved there; they have depth at DL, but not LB. Once he lost the weight, he was no longer as strong at DL, so it became a trap. You can't blame Coples, but you can't blame Mac (can't rebuild the whole team in one year) or Bowels. It is what it is. Coples does have to bear responsibility for the taking plays off rap as well. Either way, we still have depth at DL, and Coples is too expensive to keep (playing this way at LB and at to have him put on weight again). The trade deadline is over so we can't trade him; and with all of the free agent signings, we weren't going to get a compensator pick for him anyway. Time to start cleaning house ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Coples was NOT an OLB. Do you make Ivory a LB, do you make Mangold a RB, do you make Geno a QB? NO. Coples was a DE. Period. If they didn't want him on the DL, they should have just traded him instead of forcing him into a position that just didn't fit his skill set. Coples is a 4-3 DT. He's not an edge player at all. He's a decent athlete on the interior...below average on the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 mauldin needs more reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Yeah, makes sense. Richardson is sidelined, the DL gets ragged dolled and cant generate a pass rush...why would he have room for a guy who can get to the passer with his hand in the dirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 He's a scrub who disappeared for too many stretches of the game and he had trouble playing the run. He unfortunately is what he was said to be, an athlete with no motor. meh, he played the run fine on the line and basically set the edge fine as an olb. don't know what you are watching. classic case of comparing apples to oranges. coples playing d-line = apples. coples playing olb = oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Yeah, makes sense. Richardson is sidelined, the DL gets ragged dolled and cant generate a pass rush...why would he have room for a guy who can get to the passer with his hand in the dirt? https://twitter.com/CLoprestiWFAN/status/668890898848157696 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Like I said earlier, what is the message when you cut someone who doesn't play and was never productive? We are stuck on the fact that he was a high draft pick years ago but in the scheme of things him being cut is about the same as if we cut Bowen. Bowen who??? EXACTLY Someone that has had no impact on this team other than practice. Has nothing to do with it. You honestly think they are going to cut every player who is nonproductive? Or that the 16th pick in the draft getting cut with time on his contract doesn't send a message? There are a lot of FOs that have done this in the past and it will happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Mo will have his best game of the year this Sunday. Mo doesnt need motivating, he's not a problem, isnt playing bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Bowles is FOS. This is a move to give the team a message. They probably thought Coples was slacking off and they wanted to make an example of him. Kind of surprised they couldn't get anything for him but I imagine they tried. I always thought the guy had talent but since the new regime came aboard they haven't liked what they saw out of him. I doubt he lasts long enough for Rex to grab him. But sometimes when a guy has a bad rap in the NFL word spreads and the guy is out and can't get a job. I don't think it's a good move unless it works in terms of motivating these players. They didn't come to play yesterday. And not the first time either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Maybe, but at this point it is what it is; Coples was stuck at LB for the same reason he was moved there; they have depth at DL, but not LB. Once he lost the weight, he was no longer as strong at DL, so it became a trap. You can't blame Coples, but you can't blame Mac (can't rebuild the whole team in one year) or Bowels. It is what it is. Coples does have to bear responsibility for the taking plays off rap as well. Either way, we still have depth at DL, and Coples is too expensive to keep (playing this way at LB and at to have him put on weight again). The trade deadline is over so we can't trade him; and with all of the free agent signings, we weren't going to get a compensator pick for him anyway. Time to start cleaning house ... that's kind of my point. it should have never been allowed to get to this point. I can blame bowles for not seeing what a casual fan can see. I can blame mac for cutting an asset. sperm had made a point of an injury occurring and that would put the jets on the hook for money next year. but I am not buying it. either something happened that we don't know about yet, or the 2 newbz decided to make an ill advised statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Coples is a 4-3 DT. He's not an edge player at all. He's a decent athlete on the interior...below average on the edge. I don't think he has the size to play inside in a 4-3 in the NFL, in college yes but he's really the definition of a tweener with no natural position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 My understanding is if he got hurt they would be locked in on paying him $7mm next year. Feels like a smart business move. They know the season is over, start protecting cap for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 mauldin needs more reps. sure, but he wasn't getting them even when coples didn't play at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Im here late commenting and all i can say is WOW just WOW another first round draft pick bust at this point in time all these busts should have been contributing to the success of this team by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 that's kind of my point. it should have never been allowed to get to this point. I can blame bowles for not seeing what a casual fan can see. I can blame mac for cutting an asset. sperm had made a point of an injury occurring and that would put the jets on the hook for money next year. but I am not buying it. either something happened that we don't know about yet, or the 2 newbz decided to make an ill advised statement. Sorry, but at this point, the jets are still loaded at DL and light at LB; also, he has lost the weight and isn't as productive at the line anymore. You don't pay a guy 7 million to be okay. You don't risk having to pay him next year. He is like Geno - they inherited the problem and were unable to fix it. Time to move on. They weren't going to be able to trade him at that pice and would have released him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 My understanding is if he got hurt they would be locked in on paying him $7mm next year. Feels like a smart business move. They know the season is over, start protecting cap for next year. they're not conceding the season by cutting coples. he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 And so the "tear it down and rebuild" begins...first throw out the trash, second pawn off the valuables for some new prospects. Thinking this might be our last 500 type season for a couple years. goodbye Q! Thanks for those half dozen earth shattering close line hits these past few years. Nothing worse than wasted talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 sure, but he wasn't getting them even when coples didn't play at all I remember some guy defending Gholston up and down the forum, saying he would rip it up in a 4-3 in CHI. Then I remember some other guy telling how Hill was going to start torching it in Jax. Man I even remember how Victor Hobson was gonna destroy us on the Pats. They're all out of the league now. Pretty much where Coples is headed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I remember some guy defending Gholston up and down the forum, saying he would rip it up in a 4-3 in CHI. Then I remember some other guy telling how Hill was going to start torching it in Jax. Man I even remember how Victor Hobson was gonna destroy us on the Pats. They're all out of the league now. Pretty much where Coples is headed. We've become very good at using picks and even relatively high picks on players who end up being out of football within 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ylekram Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I remember some guy defending Gholston up and down the forum, saying he would rip it up in a 4-3 in CHI. Then I remember some other guy telling how Hill was going to start torching it in Jax. Man I even remember how Victor Hobson was gonna destroy us on the Pats. They're all out of the league now. Pretty much where Coples is headed. once again, you ignore coples play on the d-line and justify your stance with his play at olb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 meh, he played the run fine on the line and basically set the edge fine as an olb. don't know what you are watching. classic case of comparing apples to oranges. coples playing d-line = apples. coples playing olb = oranges. im watching I guy who's play took him out of the rotation and led to his release. I don't know who you watched. Coples isn't a good enough player to see time or earn the money he would be paid. youre the only one who likes him here and the coaches and FO agree. Not wirrh arguing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Sorry, but at this point, the jets are still loaded at DL and light at LB; also, he has lost the weight and isn't as productive at the line anymore. You don't pay a guy 7 million to be okay. You don't risk having to pay him next year. He is like Geno - they inherited the problem and were unable to fix it. Time to move on. They weren't going to be able to trade him at that pice and would have released him anyway. ya still loaded at d-line. 2 guys are looking for big paydays and the 3rd seems to find himself in trouble. they have real problems getting pressure on the qb. they inherited a problem and DIDNT BOTHER to fix it. they screwed coples the minute they took over and kept him at olb, regardless if they were loaded at one and light on the other. seems like the same rational thinking rex used. an asset literally thrown into the garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 once again, you ignore coples play on the d-line and justify your stance with his play at olb There were folks who thought Tebow was a great QB too if only he was used correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 If Coples was so good, why is Leger Douzable getting reps over him? Either he isn't so hot or he has a bad attitude. Quite possibly both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 im watching I guy who's play took him out of the rotation and led to his release. I don't know who you watched. Coples isn't a good enough player to see time or earn the money he would be paid like I told the other guy. you ignore his play on the d-line and justify your response with his play at olb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 ya still loaded at d-line. 2 guys are looking for big paydays and the 3rd seems to find himself in trouble. they have real problems getting pressure on the qb. they inherited a problem and DIDNT BOTHER to fix it. they screwed coples the minute they took over and kept him at olb, regardless if they were loaded at one and light on the other. seems like the same rational thinking rex used. an asset literally thrown into the garbage an asset that has depreciated to the point where it wasn't worth salvaging. they don't want big slow lbs, but that's what they inherited. they want guys like mauldin off the edge, and guys better than him off the edge. they just couldn't shop for everything in one offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 There were folks who thought Tebow was a great QB too if only he was used correctly. your reaching here. show me any kind of proof where coples sucked on the d-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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