JetBlue Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I remember having a debate about whether we should take him in the 2nd or 3rd rounds (he went 41st to Carolina). I kept being told he was a TE and not a Receiver or a "Hybrid" as if that was bad thing or something (for the record he has played almost exclusively at WR). When I look at how frail Smith has been, I kinda wish we picked him. I know he is not tearing up the league but he is having a decent rookie season and I can only imagine having him at 6'5", 230llbs along with Marshall and Decker creating all kinds of match up problems for the defense. I think when it is all said and done he will be one of the best receivers from this class. Oh well, so much water under the bridge now. I can only hope Smith comes back fully healthy and steps up his game next year. I still have high hopes for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I remember having a debate about whether we should take him in the 2nd or 3rd rounds (he went 41st to Carolina). I kept being told he was a TE and not a Receiver or a "Hybrid" as if that was bad thing or something (for the record he has played almost exclusively at WR). When I look at how frail Smith has been, I kinda wish we picked him. I know he is not tearing up the league but he is having a decent rookie season and I can only imagine having him at 6'5", 230llbs along with Marshall and Decker creating all kinds of match up problems for the defense. I think when it is all said and done he will be one of the best receivers from this class. Oh well, so much water under the bridge now. I can only hope Smith comes back fully healthy and steps up his game next year. I still have high hopes for him. I kinda wish we picked only good players too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 You gotta wonder if the woman in his family are large breasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 You gotta wonder if the woman in his family are large breasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 That movie is the ONLY reason your Crushlove survived his divorce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Jet from Oz Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I remember having a debate about whether we should take him in the 2nd or 3rd rounds (he went 41st to Carolina). I kept being told he was a TE and not a Receiver or a "Hybrid" as if that was bad thing or something (for the record he has played almost exclusively at WR). When I look at how frail Smith has been, I kinda wish we picked him. I know he is not tearing up the league but he is having a decent rookie season and I can only imagine having him at 6'5", 230llbs along with Marshall and Decker creating all kinds of match up problems for the defense. I think when it is all said and done he will be one of the best receivers from this class. Oh well, so much water under the bridge now. I can only hope Smith comes back fully healthy and steps up his game next year. I still have high hopes for him. I loved Funchess coming out of college, but the guy I'm wishing we grabbed instead of Smith is Tyler Lockett. He's shredding the competition on kick/punt return plus he's having a nice season as a deep threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 You were the guy who jumped down everyone's throat when they said Smith was going to be a bust. Smith had a few good games at the end of osu career and shot yo draft boards. He was a bum for 3 1/2 years prior to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 We just can't draft receivers, if 9 out of 10 are studs, we draft the dud. I thought at least he was going to be good on special, punt/kick returns. Guy cost us the Buffalo game. He's a speed guy with an ACL, hands of stone, and terrible route running. Although he's really good at tracking a deep ball, I presume with a radar gun. I'm about as down on this kid as. Iam with Dee "Elijah Price" Milliner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I don't know what you're worrying about. We have another draft to find a WR bust. A lifetime of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Funches or DGB in rd 2 would have been a steal. once again I fn told u so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 You were the guy who jumped down everyone's throat when they said Smith was going to be a bust. Smith had a few good games at the end of osu career and shot yo draft boards. He was a bum for 3 1/2 years prior to that. I still jump down anyone's throat who calls him a bust because it is very short sighted. The guy missed all of camp and wasn't the greatest route runner coming out of college. Our OC finally realized that Fitz didn't have the arm strength to consistently hit him deep and started having him running shorter route trees. He was still helping to open up the underneath for Decker and Marshall and was starting to get comfortable when he got hurt. Lets have this conversation this time next year. Many of the same folks were calling Pryor a bust after his first year too. The bottom line is stupid to call any rookie a bust after their first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Funches or DGB in rd 2 would have been a steal. once again I fn told u so I was right there with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 We just can't draft receivers, if 9 out of 10 are studs, we draft the dud. I thought at least he was going to be good on special, punt/kick returns. Guy cost us the Buffalo game. He's a speed guy with an ACL, hands of stone, and terrible route running. Although he's really good at tracking a deep ball, I presume with a radar gun. I'm about as down on this kid as. Iam with Dee "Elijah Price" Milliner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I don't know why funchess is getting all the hype here, sure he's tall for a WR but he hasn't been doing a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Don't you folks think the Jets have what you saw in Funchess and DGB in Enunwa . The Jets needed a player like Smith much more than they needed another clone of Marshall. As presently constituted, the Jets have no replacement for Decker on the roster and for the most part, no top end speed . Works great when Fitzpatrick is your starting QB if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I was right there with you. nah yo we already had Marshall and decker too many big receivers yo need a stretch da field type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I don't know why funchess is getting all the hype here, sure he's tall for a WR but he hasn't been doing a lot been doing a lot more than Devin Smith who now has a torn acl. Ditto for DGB who doesn't even have a quarterback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 nah yo we already had Marshall and decker too many big receivers yo need a stretch da field type I was looking at him before we traded for Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 been doing a lot more than Devin Smith who now has a torn acl. Ditto for DGB who doesn't even have a quarterback Again folks forget that he is a rookie and some expect rookie receivers to dominant which rarely happens. You can see his talent and ability and he has gotten progressively better. The guy has a very bright future ahead of him, especially when Benjamin comes back and starts drawing defenders away from him. DGB is another one that is starting to come on of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 been doing a lot more than Devin Smith who now has a torn acl. Ditto for DGB who doesn't even have a quarterback way to set the bar low there. fwiw I wanted Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 Don't you folks think the Jets have what you saw in Funchess and DGB in Enunwa . The Jets needed a player like Smith much more than they needed another clone of Marshall. As presently constituted, the Jets have no replacement for Decker on the roster and for the most part, no top end speed . Works great when Fitzpatrick is your starting QB if you ask me. Tin I get why they went with Smith and liked the pick. I just also liked what I saw of Funchess in college and thought he would have been a nice understudy for Marshall to groom and take over in a year or two. If Enunwa can be that player going forward that I am all for it. No one could have for seen the injury plagued season that Smith has had. I was very excited when we drafted him and believe he was just starting to come along before his latest injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 I loved Funchess coming out of college, but the guy I'm wishing we grabbed instead of Smith is Tyler Lockett. He's shredding the competition on kick/punt return plus he's having a nice season as a deep threat. Funny how I thought he was too frail and would get hurt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 way to set the bar low there. fwiw I wanted Gregory FWIW I wanted DGB AND Gregory, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Patriots were evil/immoral/idiotic for ignoring red flags with Aaron Hernandez but Jets should've drafted DGB and Randy Gregory. #Jetsfanlogic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Isn't Funchos having kind of a Stephen Hill rookie year to be saying I told you so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Patriots were evil/immoral/idiotic for ignoring red flags with Aaron Hernandez but Jets should've drafted DGB and Randy Gregory. #Jetsfanlogic hernandez was a gang member with a history of violence, Gregory smoked weed. Are you high too? Because that comparison makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 hernandez was a gang member with a history of violence, Gregory smoked weed. Are you high too? Because that comparison makes no sense Hindsight is beautiful. Always a way to justify that which you want while others are imputed with omniscience at the time of their decisions. We call that intellectual dishonesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Hindsight is beautiful. What about DGB? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I wouldn't have touched him personally because he hadn't played football for a full year leading up to the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I wouldn't have touched him personally because he hadn't played football for a full year leading up to the draft Lot of guys have pretty terrible backgrounds. A lot involving gangs. Dez Bryant was said to have had the worst background of any prospect ever. Pats drafted Hernandez and he seemed to buy in and keep out of trouble for most part absent some thuggish behaviour in practice which could probably be seen as young man machismo. Then pats extended him only when they had some significant evidence of his ability to be a contributor. They took a chance on a kid, managed it about as good as can be managed, but he was just a bad seed. Not their fault. I prefer these things to happen occasionally then for kids from crap situations not even get a chance to pursue what let's be honest is the only pathway to success left to them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Lot of guys have pretty terrible backgrounds. A lot involving gangs. Dez Bryant was said to have had the worst background of any prospect ever. Pats drafted Hernandez and he seemed to buy in and keep out of trouble for most part absent some thuggish behaviour in practice which could probably be seen as young man machismo. Then pats extended him only when they had some significant evidence of his ability to be a contributor. They took a chance on a kid, managed it about as good as can be managed, but he was just a bad seed. Not their fault. I prefer these things to happen now and then for kids from crap situations not even get a chance to pursue what let's be honest is the only pathway to success left to them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk the Dez Bryant pre draft talk was some of the most bizarre that I can remember. The Miami GM asking him if his mother was a prostitute when he came in for an interview. Can't help to feel bad for the kid, talk about a loaded question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 the Dez Bryant pre draft talk was some of the most bizarre that I can remember. The Miami GM asking him if his mother was a prostitute when he came in for an interview. Can't help to feel bad for the kid, talk about a loaded question I agree but one of reasons GMs feel compelled to ask such questions is because fans and media point the gun at them after a player does something awful "HOW COULD YOU IGNORE THE RED FLAGS JUST TO WIN A GAME!" But if they ask the question then they are cruel. It is the ultimate no win. Imputation of omniscience is one of the most insidious logical fallacies as you have to defend a prior action against an accuser who already has the benefit of knowing the outcome and a bias that you're a scumbag. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I agree but one of reasons GMs feel compelled to ask such questions is because fans and media point the gun at them after a player does something awful "HOW COULD YOU IGNORE THE RED FLAGS JUST TO WIN A GAME!" Imputation of omniscience is one of the most insidious logical fallacies as you have to defend a prior action against an accuser who already has the benefit of knowing the answer and a bias that you're a scumbag. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think as the interviewer though it's your responsibility to handle sensitive topics with some tact, assuming you're serious about making a prospect part of your team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I think as the interviewer though it's your responsibility to handle sensitive topics with some tact, assuming you're serious about making a prospect part of your team Well who knows how it was said. But yeah pretty tough to ask if "your mother is a whore" tactfully. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I loved Funchess coming out of college, but the guy I'm wishing we grabbed instead of Smith is Tyler Lockett. He's shredding the competition on kick/punt return plus he's having a nice season as a deep threat. that's the guy Mike Westoff keeps saying he wished the Jets took Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 We just can't draft receivers, if 9 out of 10 are studs, we draft the dud. I thought at least he was going to be good on special, punt/kick returns. Guy cost us the Buffalo game. He's a speed guy with an ACL, hands of stone, and terrible route running. Although he's really good at tracking a deep ball, I presume with a radar gun. I'm about as down on this kid as. Iam with Dee "Elijah Price" Milliner. He makes Teddy Ginn look like Jerry Rice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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