Sully28 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I've never seen a Special Teams unit so inept, they begged all year for a chance to blow a game for the Jets. I also find it hard to believe that there hasn't been anyone available this season that would be an upgrade over Quigley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetUp81 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 We picked up Folk after he went 64% on his FGs and got cut in Dallas. I see him touted often, but he was only 81% f(13/16) or us this year and ranked almost last in the NFL touchback percentage.... yet somehow is set to make $1.8 million next season as one of the highest paid kickers in the league?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I've never seen a Special Teams unit so inept, they begged all year for a chance to blow a game for the Jets. I also find it hard to believe that there hasn't been anyone available this season that would be an upgrade over Quigley. Quigley is finished. I also dont ever want to see Kerley return a punt, not just because of today, but like Quigley, Kerley isnt a special teamer in that capacity. Im not too sure on April because quite frankly wtf did he have to work with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 speaking of special teams.......i cant remember seeing this team return a punt or kick for a td all year. did i just forget it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully28 Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 Quigley is finished. I also dont ever want to see Kerley return a punt, not just because of today, but like Quigley, Kerley isnt a special teamer in that capacity. Im not too shore on April because quite frankly wtf did he have to work with? I know Devin smith muffed a couple but I'd like to see him in that opportunity because he has the kind of moves and speed you want in a player returning on special teams, that or draft a guy similar to Lockett. I guess it isn't entirely fair to can April considering Quigley is the worst punter in the NFL and kerley is probably the worst punt returner in the NFL. Coverage which sucked all year though, is on him in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 The coaching staff and the gm should be gagging on this one really good because Quigley has been puke bad since he has been here. His preform,ance in this game was a normal performance and it is totally on the team for not upgrading mid season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Bullock needs to be added to that list. Kerley too - I love Kerly, but if he's not going to play offense then he has no right being on the team) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Folk will be back. Punter should be upgraded. Talent on specials will one with more successful drafts in the later rounds. Jets injuries hurt special teams all season. Revis and Prior out? Means players like Walls and Miles get taken off of specials and replaced with lesser guys. Have to draft better in rounds 3-7 to find guys to contribute. Hopefully they can find a RB or WR that is adept at returning kicks but can also provide a dynamic to the offense in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I know Devin smith muffed a couple but I'd like to see him in that opportunity because he has the kind of moves and speed you want in a player returning on special teams, that or draft a guy similar to Lockett. I guess it isn't entirely fair to can April considering Quigley is the worst punter in the NFL and kerley is probably the worst punt returner in the NFL. Coverage which sucked all year though, is on him in my opinion. I'd rather not indulge in the experiment. We need to get a returner who's actually returned punts/kickoffs. We need to get Devin Smith familiar with being a WR first before we start adding more to his plate. The drafting someone similar to Lockett im in total agreement with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Tonight never mind tomorrow land the plane and fire them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Bullock needs to be added to that list. Kerley too - I love Kerly, but if he's not going to play offense then he has no right being on the team) I prefer the name used by warfish referring to him. Fat kicker is all he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetUp81 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Bullock (13/15) was 87% .... which was better than the older, more expensive and weaker legged Folk's (13/16) 81%. Bullock also had a touchback percentage of 67% vs Folk's 62%. Yet, Folk is 3x the price?? No way. Spend that money on Bullock and some offensive fire power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Kerley should be gone as well. He's been useless at every position that he's played at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully28 Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'd rather not indulge in the experiment. We need to get a returner who's actually returned punts/kickoffs. We need to get Devin Smith familiar with being a WR first before we start adding more to his plate. The drafting someone similar to Lockett im in total agreement with. well the only reason I like Devin smith in that role is because he did it and did it well at Ohio State but I get what you're saying the guy needs to focus on panning out as WR for this offense that was essentially a two man show in the passing game. For how little these late rounders pan out, we should be able to pick up an established punt and kick returner in the draft, it's definitely worth the pick and roster spot, I mean just watch the cardinals Seahawks game today, a good return game is a game changing aspect for a team and it's something we completely lacked this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I've never seen a Special Teams unit so inept, they begged all year for a chance to blow a game for the Jets. I also find it hard to believe that there hasn't been anyone available this season that would be an upgrade over Quigley. Agreed. Special teams cost us at least 2 wins, and you could argue they contributed to several other deficits in games, including today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I've never seen a Special Teams unit so inept, they begged all year for a chance to blow a game for the Jets. I also find it hard to believe that there hasn't been anyone available this season that would be an upgrade over Quigley. April should have been gone months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 well the only reason I like Devin smith in that role is because he did it and did it well at Ohio State but I get what you're saying the guy needs to focus on panning out as WR for this offense that was essentially a two man show in the passing game. For how little these late rounders pan out, we should be able to pick up an established punt and kick returner in the draft, it's definitely worth the pick and roster spot, I mean just watch the cardinals Seahawks game today, a good return game is a game changing aspect for a team and it's something we completely lacked this season. I didnt know Smith returned punts/kickoffs in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Kerley should be gone as well. He's been useless at every position that he's played at. Yup, there's a good handful of guys on this roster that once cut, will open the door for role players that actually have a job they do for this team weekly. Right now, we have several Tanny/Idzik/Rex holdovers that are just roster fodder. It showed itself mid-season when injuries hurt us, and again today, specifically on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully28 Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 Bullock (13/15) was 87% .... which was better than the older, more expensive and weaker legged Folk's (13/16) 81%. Bullock also had a touchback percentage of 67% vs Folk's 62%. Yet, Folk is 3x the price?? No way. Spend that money on Bullock and some offensive fire power. what's the extra point conversion percentages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsmanjb Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Agreed. Special teams cost us at least 2 wins, and you could argue they contributed to several other deficits in games, including today. Both games we played the Bills specials teams cost us the game and then against the Eagles nobody tackled Sproles. Fire everyone in special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I've never seen a Special Teams unit so inept, they begged all year for a chance to blow a game for the Jets. I also find it hard to believe that there hasn't been anyone available this season that would be an upgrade over Quigley. Quigley has got to go. He has become comically predictable in his shanks. Always when the team needs a big one out of the endzone, this douche bag nails 21 yarders. The Jets have no one on special teams KR or PR that even remotely frightens anyone and April makes no adjustments at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 not only the kicker, but the return guys. the jets specials were giving away points all year. probably even factored into belicheats OT decision, he figured the jets punt team would gag and give him field position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Quigley shanking that punt which led to a Bills TD cost us the game yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 ST's have been bad all season. Need to get rid of coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Quigley shanking that punt which led to a Bills TD cost us the game yesterday. And the vaunted defense held the Bills to a FG after that right - no of course not, they let Tire Rod ramble for a TD. Defense has to step up and bail out the mistake there and they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 And the vaunted defense held the Bills to a FG after that right - no of course not, they let Tire Rod ramble for a TD. Defense has to step up and bail out the mistake there and they didn't. Field position has killed us all year Bowles being the stubborn man he is stuck with Quigley when he should have been cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Field position has killed us all year Bowles being the stubborn man he is stuck with Quigley when he should have been cut I don't care who your punter is , its inevitable your going to hit a clunker with a 30 MPH swirling wind. Now I'm not absolving Quigley he had his fair share of bad punts throughout the year. But good teams/defenses overcome those mistakes and limit teams to a FG at best in those situations. The D came up small when they were needed most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I don't care who your punter is , its inevitable your going to hit a clunker with a 30 MPH swirling wind. Now I'm not absolving Quigley he had his fair share of bad punts throughout the year. But good teams/defenses overcome those mistakes and limit teams to a FG at best in those situations. The D came up small when they were needed most. The Bills go the ball on the 25 yard line thanks to the shank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 This was such a TEAM effort pinning this on any individual is ridiculous. We kept going backwards in the 1st quarter & you all knew it wasn't going to end well! From the runs for -2 yards, to the dropped passes, to the Decker 1st down being brought back for stepping out of bounds, the 1st two punts were OK, but we all knew it was coming when Quigley was kicking out of his own endzone. The entire game was just a clusterf*ck of bad plays! bad blocking! bad drops! penalties on 3rd & 4th downs, Revis & his 10 yard cushions for Watkins? Watkins was 70% of the Bills offense vs our 16 million dollar CB? Wut? 11 for 136 by a WR that in truth was their only REAL WEAPON for us to scheme against is unforgivable. It should be asked by the beat writers "how does that happen?", didn't we learn anything from the Hopkins debocle? I feel like we didn't go down swinging, I felt the Bills controlled the game again, just like the 1st one but with 3 of their best players out? Really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 The Bills go the ball on the 25 yard line thanks to the shank. If the #3 ranked D can stop the Bills minus McCoy from getting a TD then we forget about the punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 What I don't get is this guy has been here forever, no? Didn't Westy hire him? After all of this time we haven't been able to find a replacement? That is 3 GMs and 3 ST coaches ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Quigley has been fing awful for the last two years. The jets get what they deserve keeping that mook around. Someone will trot out all his pretty inside the 20 stats and see he does that kicking from mid field while other kickers do it from their own friggin 30 it seems. Worse yet he saves his most awful punts for kicking from our goal line, We also need a legit plan for return guys as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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