Klecko73isGod Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 He has now taken four of them the Super Bowl. Manning >>>>> Brady. Peyton Manning is now 3-2 head to head with Tom Brady in the postseason. Manning >>>>> Brady. Brady is now 2-5 against the Manning family in postseason play. Mannings >>>>> Brady. Eat a dick trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Deflating balls, filming defenses, and constantly crying to the refs is also way more of an offense than HGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Imma gonna give credit for this one to the defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Imma gonna give credit for this one to the defense And I'll give credit to the defense and the video team for the Pats first 3 titles and we'll call it even. Manning >>>>> Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 He has now taken four of them the Super Bowl. Manning >>>>> Brady. Peyton Manning is now 3-2 head to head with Tom Brady in the postseason. Manning >>>>> Brady. Brady is now 2-5 against the Manning family in postseason play. Mannings >>>>> Brady. Eat a dick trolls. oh my you really are better at this than anyone!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Deflating balls, filming defenses, and constantly crying to the refs is also way more of an offense than HGH. what a difference a week can make. If you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 And I'll give credit to the defense and the video team for the Pats first 3 titles and we'll call it even. Manning >>>>> Brady. Cant argue with that one bit. If Manning played for Belichick in his prime he might have 6 rings. I always felt Manning was much better than Brady but honestly at this point in time he looks pretty well shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 what a difference a week can make. If you know what I mean. For real. I had resigned myself to the Pats winning again. I'm a man reborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Manning is one of the greatest of all time, but at this point he's basically done. It must be so frustrating for him to know where to throw it and have his body break down on every throw. from my understanding of his surgery it's amazing that he can throw at all, let alone in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 He took Jim Caldwell to the super bowl ...his number should be retired by every team just for that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 How many times have Manning's coaches been fined draft picks and tons of cash for cheating? If Manning would've cheated as much as Brady he would have 10 rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 oh my you really are better at this than anyone!!!! I'm a ****in' artist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Peyton choked with some pretty stacked teams offensively too, mind you. If he hadn't blown the Super Bowl against the Saints...this is a very different argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Brady is still the greatest qb ever and I'm a jets fan who hates the patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Peyton choked with some pretty stacked teams offensively too, mind you. If he hadn't blown the Super Bowl against the Saints...this is a very different argument. Peyton Manning was considered the biggest choke in the history of sports until 2006 when he finally beat the pats. He's top 5 all-time and reinvented the position but Brady and Montana were both better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Peyton Manning was considered the biggest choke in the history of sports until 2006 when he finally beat the pats. He's top 5 all-time and reinvented the position but Brady and Montana were both better. Agree completely. Peyton still gets slack from some for being sort of carried by that D and Bob Sanders. Fact is, though...you could say the same about all off Brady's early SBs. Once they depended on him and his WEs made critical errors (Moss not giving 100% on the streak and the Welker drop) or Gronk was hurt...this is what's happened. exception being last year, when their D was phenomenal. My point is...the media will have you believe it's all Brady and BB. No QB can do it alone, though. Montana had so many HOFers, including the GOAT in Rice. Bradshaw had a team filled with all time greats. Aikman had a great oline plus a top 5 RB, WR, and maybe the best defensive/special teams player ever along with them in Deion. Brady made Edelman and Welker great. Manning made guys like Gonzalez (and Welker, lol) great.but both also had the Marvin Harrisons, Randy Moss's and Gronks...all time greats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybroome Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 He took Jim Caldwell to the super bowl ...his number should be retired by every team just for that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 He has now taken four of them the Super Bowl. Manning >>>>> Brady. Peyton Manning is now 3-2 head to head with Tom Brady in the postseason. Manning >>>>> Brady. Brady is now 2-5 against the Manning family in postseason play. Mannings >>>>> Brady. Eat a dick trolls. if anything i think what this really proves is that if you have an elite quarterback you are a "good" headcoach. brady is the great one, not bellichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Brady is still the greatest qb ever and I'm a jets fan who hates the patriots. montana doesnt throw 3 interceptions in that game last night. he wins it and goes to the superbowl against a broken down peyton manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 montana doesnt throw 3 interceptions in that game last night. he wins it and goes to the superbowl against a broken down peyton manning Who threw 3 INT's? Montana would have pulled one of his famous one and dones and never would have made it to that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Here's the bottom line TX. Your team got kicked in the nuts. And that "meaningless game" against the Jets helped to cost you home field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Here's the bottom line TX. Your team got kicked in the nuts.And that "meaningless game" against the Jets helped to cost you home field. So, if that game was played in Foxboro: 1) Wade Phillips would have come up with a dumb defensive game plan. 2) Von Miller would have been contained all game. 3) Pats OLine would have given Brady 8 seconds to throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 So, if that game was played in Foxboro: 1) Wade Phillips would have come up with a dumb defensive game plan. 2) Von Miller would have been contained all game. 3) Pats OLine would have given Brady 8 seconds to throw. Ernie Adams could have pulled off another impressive, no stone unturned cheatfest in Foxboro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 So, if that game was played in Foxboro: 1) Wade Phillips would have come up with a dumb defensive game plan. 2) Von Miller would have been contained all game. 3) Pats OLine would have given Brady 8 seconds to throw. Maybe not, but Gostkowski probably doesn't miss that kick. The Pats don't get flagged for several offsides on offense. Bill probably doesn't go for it on 4th down way too early in the game because the scoring deficit looks different. It mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Maybe not, but Gostkowski probably doesn't miss that kick. The Pats don't get flagged for several offsides on offense. Bill probably doesn't go for it on 4th down way too early in the game because the scoring deficit looks different.It mattered. Couple things: 1) A missed extra point in the 1st quarter should have no bearing on the outcome of the game. 2) the procedure penalties were brutal. That is undisciplined football. 3) I do agree with you that BB kicks the FG if that game was in Foxboro. However, I had no problem with the decision yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Couple things: 1) A missed extra point in the 1st quarter should have no bearing on the outcome of the game. 2) the procedure penalties were brutal. That is undisciplined football. 3) I do agree with you that BB kicks the FG if that game was in Foxboro. However, I had no problem with the decision yesterday. Scoring ALWAYS has a bearing on the outcome of the game. No, false starts are a product of being the road team. Did you even watch the game? If you have no problem with it, then you have no problem with losing, because that was a big part of why you lost. It showed no faith in the Pats defense, who would force several 3-and-outs to get Brady the ball back after the fact. Kicking the FG there gives you the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Couple things: 1) A missed extra point in the 1st quarter should have no bearing on the outcome of the game. 2) the procedure penalties were brutal. That is undisciplined football. 3) I do agree with you that BB kicks the FG if that game was in Foxboro. However, I had no problem with the decision yesterday. Back in the weeks heading up to Pats v Jets you bragged the Pats would be able to rest starters in that game because it would meaningless because home field would be clinched. Well how did home field now become unimportant? If you could rest players once home field advantaged happened means it was important. Not the bs you're selling today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Scoring ALWAYS has a bearing on the outcome of the game. No, false starts are a product of being the road team. Did you even watch the game? If you have no problem with it, then you have no problem with losing, because that was a big part of why you lost. It showed no faith in the Pats defense, who would force several 3-and-outs to get Brady the ball back after the fact. Kicking the FG there gives you the win. The missed extra point effected the way the final minutes were played. How could that not be important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Couple things: 1) A missed extra point in the 1st quarter should have no bearing on the outcome of the game. 2) the procedure penalties were brutal. That is undisciplined football. 3) I do agree with you that BB kicks the FG if that game was in Foxboro. However, I had no problem with the decision yesterday. That's funny because when I first encountered you online you used to puff out your chest and say things like "championships are all that matter" and "if you don't win it all it's a failed season." Now you're OK with your coach losing you a conference championship game with boneheaded decisions. My how times have changed. Tom Brady is a fraud. Win a Super Bowl that doesn't result in a lost first-round draft pick and then come talk to me. Until that time, Manning is better than Brady and everyone is still in Montana's shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 So, if that game was played in Foxboro: 1) Wade Phillips would have come up with a dumb defensive game plan. 2) Von Miller would have been contained all game. 3) Pats OLine would have given Brady 8 seconds to throw. Brady's never won a postseason game against a Manning-quarterbacked team (Peyton or Eli) outside of Foxboro, so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 The best kicker in patriots history Gostowski chokes on a XP, Its called KARMA GARBY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 The best kicker in patriots history Gostowski chokes on a XP, Its called KARMA GARBY!!! Because of the extra point rules being changed with Belichick pushing for it...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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