kelly Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 In all likelihood, Ryan Fitzpatrick will re-sign with the Jets. After some time spent negotiating, both Fitzpatrick’s representatives, and Jets GM Mike Maccagnan, will agree on a two- or three-year deal that works for both sides.And when Fitzpatrick makes it back to Florham Park, he’ll be the Jets starter. His backup will be Geno Smith.It will be that way during the offseason, training camp and the regular season, too. Why ? Because it really doesn’t make much sense for the Jets to get rid of Smith.Think of it this way– What exactly is wrong with having Smith on the Jets roster? Is he flawed? Sure. Absolutely. His career statistics (no matter who his surrounding talent was) indicate that. In 31 games played, Smith has thrown 35 interceptions. He has a career completion percentage of 57.9, and a career quarterback rating of 72.3. That’s not good. It also doesn’t matter. Now, Smith’s placement on the Jets roster has nothing to do with the fact he could, maybe, someday develop into a solid, competent starting quarterback. It has nothing to do with the fact that, if he gets his head on straight, he could maybe even be a franchise quarterback.The reason the Jets should keep Smith on the roster is simply because he’s, if nothing else, a pretty good backup.Think about it for a second– Fitzpatrick, while the Jets unquestioned starting quarterback if he resigns, is also a bit of a daredevil. He still hasn’t learned how to slide, and, throughout his career, has gotten in trouble because of it. It led to him suffering a season-ending injury with the Texans in 2014, and it nearly led to him missing extend time with the Jets this past year due to a thumb ailment.If the Jets make the decision–which it appears as if they have— that Fitzpatrick will be the team’s signal caller next year, they have to prepare themselves for the situation that Fitzpatrick gets injured. A competent, reliable backup needs to be situated on the depth chart just behind Fitzpatrick. Smith, again, at the very least, is that. If New York were to release or cut Smith (a transaction that would free a little over $1 million), they’d have to go out and find another backup. The issue ? It’s hard to find a backup of Smith’s skill level or talent for what Smith is presently making.If on the Jets roster next year, Smith will have a base salary of $675,000 and a cap hit of $1.597. When looking around the league, that’s not exactly high when talking about backups. Here’s a look at some of the highest-paid backup quarterbacks (per their cap hit) of 2015.While not on the above list, Fitzpatrick, who was brought in initially to backup up Smith, had a cap hit of $3.5 million in 2015. Unlike last year, money is tight for the Jets. Even if the team were to make a few transactions (see here) to free some additional spending money, New York will still only have around $20-$25 million in available funds. When taking into consideration the fact the team needs help on the offensive line, and a star-studded list of their own unrestricted free agents (see here) that need new deals, that’s not a lot.As a result, the team needs to be smart with their money. And the smart move is keeping Smith right where he is, paying him $1.5 million, and not having to worry about the backup quarterback spot for the rest of the year.Could a better option be found on the open market? Maybe, but certainly not at Smith’s price. So while many would like nothing more than to part ways with the former second-round pick this year, it just doesn’t make sense to do so. > http://jetswire.usatoday.com/2016/02/11/why-it-doesnt-make-sense-for-jets-to-cut-trade-geno-smith/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 So while many would like nothing more than to part ways with the former second-round pick this year, it just doesn’t make sense to do so. The team hates him and sees zero future in him as being part of the long term plan, 'he's cheap' is simply not a good enough reason to keep him. With your backups the best scenario is having guys who you hope develop into a #1 in time, since Petty has had a year under his belt he steps into #2 and we draft another guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 You hold onto him through training camp and see how Petty and draft pick are in the summer. Then, after that, you can part ways easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 He is a cheap, experienced backup; unless we hit the jackpot with the draft (or Petty is ready) no reason to move on yet. Once training camp is in full swing, there are always teams that need another QB - we can trade him then if we want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 The following is what this article omits and it's all the reason as to why he needs to go....... "TEAM HARMONY" Having that a$$hole on the team does nothing more than distract the players from the task at hand. His mere existence in the locker room and the players knowing the kind of person he is, IS THE PROBLEM. It's going to be a joyous occasion for the NYJ, and the fans for that matter, when he is finally gone. Cut him, trade him, Send him swimming down the Nile River with a foot ruler and require him to measure the entire length, just so long as he is no longer a JET!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 If we draft a QB, it will really come down to how much they believe in Petty. If they believe in Petty, I cannot seem them carrying 4 QB's, and I think Geno gets cut, but they may not believe in Petty, and they may not draft a QB, in that case, Geno likely stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, Mainejet said: The following is what this article omits and it's all the reason as to why he needs to go....... "TEAM HARMONY" Having that a$$hole on the team does nothing more than distract the players from the task at hand. His mere existence in the locker room and the players knowing the kind of person he is, IS THE PROBLEM. It's going to be a joyous occasion for the NYJ, and the fans for that matter, when he is finally gone. Cut him, trade him, Send him swimming down the Nile River with a foot ruler and require him to measure the entire length, just so long as he is no longer a JET!!!!! Who do you know on the Jets who told you that he's a problem. That he is ruining "TEAM HARMONY"? That his mere existence in the locker is a problem? We're all tired of him as a backup QB but as of now hes the 2nd best QB on the team. Until that changes all the imagined problems he brings to the team dont over ride what he brings at such a cheap price. Question, if his mere existence etc is a problem, if he threatens "TEAM HARMONY", why and how did we win 10 games with him on the bench rooting his team on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 28 minutes ago, Mainejet said: The following is what this article omits and it's all the reason as to why he needs to go....... "TEAM HARMONY" Having that a$$hole on the team does nothing more than distract the players from the task at hand. His mere existence in the locker room and the players knowing the kind of person he is, IS THE PROBLEM. It's going to be a joyous occasion for the NYJ, and the fans for that matter, when he is finally gone. Cut him, trade him, Send him swimming down the Nile River with a foot ruler and require him to measure the entire length, just so long as he is no longer a JET!!!!! Jets won 10 games last year and, in the New York media market, there wasn't a single story all season or since about there being any problems with Geno in the locker room. Problems seem to be created by the fans who hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Geno isn't going anywhere unless at least one of the following happens. 1. Petty outright beats Geno for the backup job (in which case, there's still a chance he could stick as #3 anyway, if they don't find any UDFA types who they like as #3). 2. They draft another QB high, making Geno the odd man out. 3. Another team makes a decent trade offer for him. The team certainly isn't going to cut him for sh*ts and giggles, just because fans don't like the guy. In all likelihood he'll be here until at least the end of training camp, with a very good chance of beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 If Fitz gets hurt, the season is over anyway. No reason to make us all endure watching Genope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I wonder when the date is for when they can save the $1.7M cap by cutting. If it is opening day then I see no reason to cut before then unless we get a trade offer(doubtful). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 He will be cut within seven days after the draft ends. A QB will be drafted and that will be the end of Geno playing for the NYJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 oh ,..he'll most probably be with us for at least one more season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Mainejet said: The following is what this article omits and it's all the reason as to why he needs to go....... "TEAM HARMONY" Having that a$$hole on the team does nothing more than distract the players from the task at hand. His mere existence in the locker room and the players knowing the kind of person he is, IS THE PROBLEM. I never want to see Geno under center for the NY Jets again. Let me make that clear. But..... Your post is a complete fabrication by you MaineJet. There are no reports of any lack of Harmony in the Jets clubhouse, let alone caused by Geno Smith. Post your sources or recant your nonsense because without corroboration, your post is complete bullsh!t. You don't like Geno. I get it. But to absolutely fabricate sh!t and post it as though it were actually reported is downright dishonest. Boo. Better yet... Go back to JI. They deserve garbage like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 2 hours ago, slats said: ...there wasn't a single story all season or since about there being any problems with Geno in the locker room. It's astounding what getting punched in the face can do to a self-centered ninny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 50 minutes ago, JetPotato said: If Fitz gets hurt, the season is over anyway. No reason to make us all endure watching Genope. If Fitz gets hurt I see no reason why Petty would not be next up. We have a big enough sample size of Geno we would have to get a look at Petty to see what the future holds in his case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 He is the only back up with any experience. He is staying until someone better comes along or the Jets draft high for a QB. The Jets are looking hard for one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I am guessing that the number of people who see Geno Smith as the QB of the future is a pretty small group at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Fitzpatrick won us the Super Bowl ....wait what did I miss where was I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 The Jets will resign Fitz, they Like Petty, and drafting another Q.B. He's a gonner, a Distraction bye to more Idzik garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Cut cut cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Fitzpatrick won us the Super Bowl ....wait what did I miss where was I So in your world the team doesn't matter it's all on the QB to win the Super Bowl. Thank God you are not the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 This is how you answer this question. My our team is 8-2 and your starter just got hurt and will be out 3-4 weeks. Is your backup capable of going 2-2 during that time to keep your team alive? He has a strong team behind him obviously or they wouldn't be 8-2 so he doesn't have to do it all himself. If the answer is no, then there is no need to keep the guy. Cheap or not. If so, hold on to him for dear life because as a backup qb he's valuable. The answer with smith is Hell no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I don't think fitz signing here is a shoe-in he threw 31 TD's last season, he is going to try to get paid, which is what he should do keep geno as insurance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I don't think fitz signing here is a shoe-in he threw 31 TD's last season, he is going to try to get paid, which is what he should do He's had one good year out of 11 seasons in the NFL. No team out there will give him a large contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: He's had one good year out of 11 seasons in the NFL. No team out there will give him a large contract. no, but I have seen where people think the jets can get him for $4 million that aint happenin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 no, but I have seen where people think the jets can get him for $4 million that aint happenin I agree, but I don't think the Jets have to break the bank to get him resigned. Make a fair offer and Fitz will stay in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Fitzpatrick won us the Super Bowl ....wait what did I miss where was I Are you suggesting Geno would have won us the SB? Or just whining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinemanCT Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 17 minutes ago, Larz said: no, but I have seen where people think the jets can get him for $4 million that aint happenin He made $3,250,000 in 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I agree with this logic wholeheartedly. Geno is a competent back up who has shown flashes of being a very good QB, even though he makes head scratching mistakes. But let's think about his career as a starter: virtually no weapons whatsoever (at one point his starting WRs were Stephen Hill and Jeremy Kerley), and a coach who not only didn't know how to run an NFL offense, but loathed the very notion of doing so. In Smith's rookie year, he won eight games under these conditions. So yes, he is a competent back up, and if he can get his head on straight, can even be a franchise QB someday. Besides, Fitzpatrick is old and isn't going to last much longer. His wins, with the exception of the one game against a banged up Patriots team, came against sub-500 teams (sorry, the Jets would have beaten the Titans and Jaguars this season with Geno as the starter). If Fitzpatrick starts, I am going to bet that Geno ends up replacing him this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster2 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Keep him ,he sign cheap and the Jets have many players to sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Let's be honest, the only reason anyone can possibly have for wanting to keep Geno at this point is because we're Jets fans. Somewhere, deep in your gut, you truly believe that if the Jets let him go, ONLY if they let him go, he'll go on elsewhere to have a hall of fame career because J-E-T-S. And I get that. That's fine. Just say that. But don't sit here and type other words. It's embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 5 hours ago, slats said: Jets won 10 games last year and, in the New York media market, there wasn't a single story all season or since about there being any problems with Geno in the locker room. Problems seem to be created by the fans who hate him. I do not know Geno Smith, and I don't believe he is is a distraction. However, he got his jaw broke, and no one, at least that I can remember, came to his defense after the incident. That is pretty damning, and I think it tells us all everything we need to know about his leadership and stature in the locker room. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 hour ago, JetsFanatic said: So in your world the team doesn't matter it's all on the QB to win the Super Bowl. Thank God you are not the GM. Isn't the ultimate goal the Super Bowl and hoisting the Lombardi? Fitzpatrick has never won a playoff game. I play to win, I don't settle on almost, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Pro: we save 1 m cap con: most of the 1 m goes to his replacement pro: the new #2 gets to develop faster. con: Geno might have continued to develop. pro: Geno has experience con: Geno has experience bottom line: IMHO unless Mac snags us a Kap or a GR3 type, Geno stays. However if by some miracle Geno has any trade value then he is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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