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http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/college/ole-miss/2016/04/28/laremy-tunsil-admits-taking-money-ole-miss-coaches/83683484/

Moments before the draft began a video of Tunsil smoking out of a bong fashioned out of a gas mask was posted onto his Twitter account. When it had done its damage, moving Tunsil out of the top 10 entirely and to the Miami Dolphins on No. 13, the hacker started on Tunsil’s Instagram account.

There they posted screenshots of alleged text messages between Tunsil and John Miller, assistant athletic director for football operations, in which Tunsil asks for money to pay rent and also for his mother's $305 electric and water bill. In reference to the former, Miller makes a reference to "Barney." Barner Farrar is Ole Miss' assistant athletic director for high school and junior colleges.

“I made a mistake,” Tunsil said in a press conference. “That happened.”

Pressed if that meant he had taken money from a coach, Tunsil said, ‘I’d have to say yeah.’

This is potentially devastating news to Ole Miss, which is already in the midst of an investigation process with the NCAA. A notice of allegations (which included violations that led to Tunsil serving a long suspension during the 2015 season) was delivered to Ole Miss in January. A third party requested a 30-day extension earlier this month.While Tunsil was being asked if he had met with the NCAA, his agent Jimmy Sexton's assistant stopped the press conference and escorted Tunsil to a room down the hall before closing the door.

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14 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

This is exactly why college players should be paid. 

 

 

 

Keep in mind if they are, the $250,000 or so in college education will be taxable income.  99% of these guys aren't going to be drafted and earn millions.  

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30 minutes ago, flgreen said:

Keep in mind if they are, the $250,000 or so in college education will be taxable income.  99% of these guys aren't going to be drafted and earn millions.  

Even more reason why they should pay the athletes. Let them pay for their education while the school pays them for their athletic ability. And not every one of these kids are on scholarship either. Most kids on the team pay for school and play for the schools team. What about them?  

We dont have this problem in high school because though kids play football, for the most part school is free. 

Most arent going be drafted and earn millions, but I must also keep in mind that 99% of them that graduate wont earn $250,000 as well...showing how overpriced these institutions are. 

At the end of the day, those institutions take far more advantage of those scholarship programs in terms of financial return than those kid ever do. Maybe 2% of college players make it to the pros, however those schools rake in millions on that entire program whether you make it to the pros, whether you're on scholarship or not. 

At the end of the day, those guys need to support themselves and their family...and that shouldnt be considered a problem since they currently support the school, coaches and everyone else affiliated with college football financially...except themselves. 

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1 minute ago, legler82 said:

He needs to fire his agent for having him answer questions alone at the post draft presser considering all that was going on.  Repeat after me Tunsil "no comment".

His agent helped get him no lower than #13....Sexton represents many miami decision makers

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7 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

Even more reason why they should pay the athletes. Let them pay for their education while the school pays them for their athletic ability. And not every one of these kids are on scholarship either. Most kids on the team pay for school and play for the schools team. What about them?  

We dont have this problem in high school because though kids play football, for the most part school is free. 

Most arent going be drafted and earn millions, but I must also keep in mind that 99% of them that graduate wont earn $250,000 as well...showing how overpriced these institutions are. 

At the end of the day, those institutions take far more advantage of those scholarship programs in terms of financial return than those kid ever do. Maybe 2% of college players make it to the pros, however those schools rake in millions on that entire program whether you make it to the pros, whether you're on scholarship or not. 

At the end of the day, those guys need to support themselves and their family...and that shouldnt be considered a problem since they currently support the school, coaches and everyone else affiliated with college football financially...except themselves. 

Think you have kind of made my point.  If they pay NCAA jocks, it won't be a situation where a few of them are paid, ALL of them would have to be paid.  Bank on there being a union very shortly.  A lot of these kids, particularly the high percentage who don't graduate, will come out of school heavily in debt, no degree, and the IRS on their back at 21YO.

Just because a few stars are cheating, no need to change the entire structure, and cause even more problems for the kids, and NCAA.  Doesn't make any sense to me.

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1 hour ago, flgreen said:

Think you have kind of made my point.  If they pay NCAA jocks, it won't be a situation where a few of them are paid, ALL of them would have to be paid.  Bank on there being a union very shortly.  A lot of these kids, particularly the high percentage who don't graduate, will come out of school heavily in debt, no degree, and the IRS on their back at 21YO.

Just because a few stars are cheating, no need to change the entire structure, and cause even more problems for the kids, and NCAA.  Doesn't make any sense to me.

Im not making your point at all. You mentioned kids coming out of school heavily in debt, yet today student loans supersede credit card debt at over 1 trillion dollars. That happened like 5 years ago...where you been? lol. Kids are already coming out of school with debt, and many who also have degrees cant find jobs that they thought would reflect that 250,000 paper degree they received. 

I'll agree to disagree, the institutions that benefit on every level of that scholarship agreement usually end up being defended in these conversations, or we think students going to get an education worth $250,000 are some how not smart enough to be able to receive payment for their services without going in debt. Yet, we think its smarter not for them to be paid, and keep the structure that has student taking out loans with compounding interest which ends up being much more than the already high $250,000. Maybe someone should seriously look at the structure for what it is. 

A link form the WSJ saying "Congrats class of 2015, you're the most indebted ever...(for now). 

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/05/08/congratulations-class-of-2015-youre-the-most-indebted-ever-for-now/

 

 

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I don't know but how many times have you heard somebody caught red handed breaking the rules or the law say they "made a mistake" like it was no big deal. And then say well everyone makes mistakes. Was it a mistake or did they really mean it. 

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22 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

They are. Free education 

You dont know what you're talking about. Not every college athlete is on a free ride. However, either the school is going to get you to put yourself in perpetual debt in order to attend, or...if they really want you, they'll give you a scholarship for your talents, but your talents in return will make that school millions. 

 

Thats the problem with "free stuff"...it usually isnt lol. 

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1 minute ago, Villain The Foe said:

You dont know what you're talking about. Not every college athlete is on a free ride. However, either the school is going to get you to put yourself in perpetual debt in order to attend, or...if they really want you, they'll give you a scholarship for your talents, but your talents in return will make that school millions. 

 

Thats the problem with "free stuff"...it usually isnt lol. 

and a lot of them don't get accepted without sports, it goes both ways.  I was offered acceptance to SUNY stonybrook years ago, but didn't have the grades for it.  it wasn't because of my personality, lol

lets leave the college kids to college, and just establish a d-league for the NFL

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7 minutes ago, Larz said:

and a lot of them don't get accepted without sports, it goes both ways.  I was offered acceptance to SUNY stonybrook years ago, but didn't have the grades for it.  it wasn't because of my personality, lol

lets leave the college kids to college, and just establish a d-league for the NFL

And alot of them are usually dealt few alternative options while the schools will either make money off of you or the guy right behind you...so that individual is ultimately irrelevant in that regard. 

 

I would leave the college kids to college, but the colleges arent. They're making a crap load of money off of the kids while at the same time putting them in massive debt. Parents are too busy defending the institutions to the point where they cant even consider an alternative. 

College is the D-league because thats where the NFL gets their talent. If only people were to see it for what it actually is. 

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6 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

And alot of them are usually dealt few alternative options while the schools will either make money off of you or the guy right behind you...so that individual is ultimately irrelevant in that regard. 

 

I would leave the college kids to college, but the colleges arent. They're making a crap load of money off of the kids while at the same time putting them in massive debt. Parents are too busy defending the institutions to the point where they cant even consider an alternative. 

College is the D-league because thats where the NFL gets their talent. If only people were to see it for what it actually is. 

2 different issues there.  if you want them to get compensated directly for their contributions, then they can't be amateurs.  its really simple.  if you want them drawing a salary, make them NFL employees

it would actually be better, the QB's would learn how to QB

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9 minutes ago, Larz said:

2 different issues there.  if you want them to get compensated directly for their contributions, then they can't be amateurs.  its really simple.  if you want them drawing a salary, make them NFL employees

it would actually be better, the QB's would learn how to QB

2 different issues here, if you tell them that they're amateurs, then you shouldnt make money off of them. It's really simple. If you dont want them drawing a salary, dont treat college ball like the NFL, drawing broadcasting rights and earning close to $100 million dollars a year from "amateur ball" (Looking at you University of Texas). 

It would actually be better. 

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